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On December 20 2013 09:50 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 15:02 ZapRoffo wrote:On December 19 2013 14:43 Wingblade wrote:On December 19 2013 13:59 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:My girlfriend got mad at me after reading my final essay defending date rape for my philosophy class final.I guess her friend was date raped before. Any ideas how I can make her stop acting crazy? If you care to read my essay for yourself here it is: + Show Spoiler +Ever since the term Date Rape was coined by doctor Mary Koss in 1987, a convoluted piece of legislation of the same name has been injected into the United States of America’s court system. Over the last two and a half decades, this law has been proven ineffective and destructive for a vast majority of the female population while simultaneously keeping the justice system gridlocked with litigant’s arbitrary and contradictory allegations of abuse. Having date rape being illegal is fallacious for a multitude of reasons. It is ineffective; it conflicts with laws already put in place, utilizes the term rape incorrectly, based upon unreliable evidence, creates more victims, and hurts the victims of date rape more than the actual event. Date rape has nothing to do with rape. The Federal Bureau of Investigation classifies the term rape as a violent crime. Furthermore, rape has nothing at all to do with sex, just ask a feminist. They will gladly point out that rape is about having dominion, power, and control over someone. Date rape is defined as a sexual act that rarely involved violence. That means date rape is a sexual crime not a violent crime. It is disingenuous and irresponsible to attach the word rape to a crime that is virtually absent of violence. The term date rape is interchangeable with term sexual assault. Sexual assault is any involuntary sexual act in which a person is threatened, coerced, or forced to engage against their will, or any sexual touching of a person who has not consented. With sexual assault laws already on the books, the date rape law could be adjudicated from arbitration without issue, date rape cases could be easily converted to sexual assault charges, and the criminal litigation process would be streamlined. This simple move would make rape cases less complicated and confusing while correctly classifying date rape as a sexual crime. Having date rape illegal doesn’t prevent the prevalence of rape, but increases the amount of victims, further exacerbating the problem. Victim is the priciest sell in this world. The victim feels the most and suffers the best. Once you label someone as a victim, the more likely a person is to be victimized. When you have been victimized by someone, the arousal of that encounter etches a pattern into the brain, the brain then tries to master that arousal by attracting perpetrators that are prone to the kind of abusive behavior they fear, and the cycle of victimization continues. This phenomenon is called traumatic reenactment, where a survivor of previous abuse compulsively seeks out the same acts of abuse for the remainder of their lifetime. While date rape is awful and should be avoided at all costs, acknowledgement that you are powerless in a situation is far more painful than the actual indent. If a person never sees themself as a victim, the pattern never emerges, thus the cycle of abuse never begins. Most rape victims report that revisiting the trauma of a date rape committed against them while testifying against their alleged assailant is more damaging to their mental and emotional psyche than the actual sexual assault. When the justice system does more damage than a rapist you know something is fundamentally broken within American legal practices. In several circumstances, federal criminal court judges have actually ordered rape victims to appear at the rapists…I mean therapists office. The victim has to relive the trauma in perpetuity by talking to the psychologist about the event ad nauseum. It is much healthier to accept what happened, chalk it up to making poor life choices, and move on. Alcohol is one of the most powerful aphrodisiacs for women. Alcohol is also the most common intoxicants involving date rape. Women's erotic placidity is much more different than a man’s. Studies conducted measuring genital blood flow concludes that; women do not inherently know what turns them on. In women’s biological psychology, there is a schism between how her body is responding to a stimulus and what she reports to her brain consciously. From this information we can deduct that a women’s ability to gauge how her body is responding to sexual encounters can become compromised. Adding the consumption of alcohol to the picture further complicates the issue making a date rape case next to impossible to prove within a reasonable doubt. Therefore the vast majority of date rape cases lack the validity to be tried in a court of law. Recovering for a traumatic event is completely dependent or the victim’s intrinsic motivation to endure adversity. Some people get dealt a bad hand in life and half to work that much harder than to overcome the obstacles placed in front of them. Nobody has ever gone on to live a productive and meaningful life by obsessing over one obstacle, suing the obstacle, spending years of their life and thousands of dollars putting the obstacle on trial, and throwing the obstacle in jail. Letting a specific event define your standing in the world is tantamount to wasting the greatest gift the world has bestowed upon them, life. Date Rape is a perfect excuse for becoming depressed and surrendering your worth to the court system, relying on lawyers to “come in like a wrecking ball” and fight for what’s left of their plaintiff’s dignity. Or they overcome adversity, accomplish tremendous feats, and become the hero of their own story. Stop blaming environmental factors for getting into precarious situations, take responsibility for your own actions, and learn from both good and bad experiences.
I actually think quite a bit of this essay is relatively logical and well-written *brain explode* I thought this had to be some sort of troll/copypasta cause that is possibly the worst piece of writing I've ever read. It has constant grammatical errors, tense confusion, POV/audience confusion, a lack of authority and support, massive logical holes, in addition to being a repugnant insensitive position. It's like the perfect storm of awful. Don't be such a fucking whiteknight. Girls misuse and stigmatize the term rape when in almost all cases it's mutual and post sex they sober up and realize they didn't want to have sex with that dude. Women are repulsive creatures with no morals whatsoever which are only controlled by their current emotions.
your views are not based on reality
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On December 20 2013 09:55 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2013 09:50 Shauni wrote:On December 19 2013 15:02 ZapRoffo wrote:On December 19 2013 14:43 Wingblade wrote:On December 19 2013 13:59 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:My girlfriend got mad at me after reading my final essay defending date rape for my philosophy class final.I guess her friend was date raped before. Any ideas how I can make her stop acting crazy? If you care to read my essay for yourself here it is: + Show Spoiler +Ever since the term Date Rape was coined by doctor Mary Koss in 1987, a convoluted piece of legislation of the same name has been injected into the United States of America’s court system. Over the last two and a half decades, this law has been proven ineffective and destructive for a vast majority of the female population while simultaneously keeping the justice system gridlocked with litigant’s arbitrary and contradictory allegations of abuse. Having date rape being illegal is fallacious for a multitude of reasons. It is ineffective; it conflicts with laws already put in place, utilizes the term rape incorrectly, based upon unreliable evidence, creates more victims, and hurts the victims of date rape more than the actual event. Date rape has nothing to do with rape. The Federal Bureau of Investigation classifies the term rape as a violent crime. Furthermore, rape has nothing at all to do with sex, just ask a feminist. They will gladly point out that rape is about having dominion, power, and control over someone. Date rape is defined as a sexual act that rarely involved violence. That means date rape is a sexual crime not a violent crime. It is disingenuous and irresponsible to attach the word rape to a crime that is virtually absent of violence. The term date rape is interchangeable with term sexual assault. Sexual assault is any involuntary sexual act in which a person is threatened, coerced, or forced to engage against their will, or any sexual touching of a person who has not consented. With sexual assault laws already on the books, the date rape law could be adjudicated from arbitration without issue, date rape cases could be easily converted to sexual assault charges, and the criminal litigation process would be streamlined. This simple move would make rape cases less complicated and confusing while correctly classifying date rape as a sexual crime. Having date rape illegal doesn’t prevent the prevalence of rape, but increases the amount of victims, further exacerbating the problem. Victim is the priciest sell in this world. The victim feels the most and suffers the best. Once you label someone as a victim, the more likely a person is to be victimized. When you have been victimized by someone, the arousal of that encounter etches a pattern into the brain, the brain then tries to master that arousal by attracting perpetrators that are prone to the kind of abusive behavior they fear, and the cycle of victimization continues. This phenomenon is called traumatic reenactment, where a survivor of previous abuse compulsively seeks out the same acts of abuse for the remainder of their lifetime. While date rape is awful and should be avoided at all costs, acknowledgement that you are powerless in a situation is far more painful than the actual indent. If a person never sees themself as a victim, the pattern never emerges, thus the cycle of abuse never begins. Most rape victims report that revisiting the trauma of a date rape committed against them while testifying against their alleged assailant is more damaging to their mental and emotional psyche than the actual sexual assault. When the justice system does more damage than a rapist you know something is fundamentally broken within American legal practices. In several circumstances, federal criminal court judges have actually ordered rape victims to appear at the rapists…I mean therapists office. The victim has to relive the trauma in perpetuity by talking to the psychologist about the event ad nauseum. It is much healthier to accept what happened, chalk it up to making poor life choices, and move on. Alcohol is one of the most powerful aphrodisiacs for women. Alcohol is also the most common intoxicants involving date rape. Women's erotic placidity is much more different than a man’s. Studies conducted measuring genital blood flow concludes that; women do not inherently know what turns them on. In women’s biological psychology, there is a schism between how her body is responding to a stimulus and what she reports to her brain consciously. From this information we can deduct that a women’s ability to gauge how her body is responding to sexual encounters can become compromised. Adding the consumption of alcohol to the picture further complicates the issue making a date rape case next to impossible to prove within a reasonable doubt. Therefore the vast majority of date rape cases lack the validity to be tried in a court of law. Recovering for a traumatic event is completely dependent or the victim’s intrinsic motivation to endure adversity. Some people get dealt a bad hand in life and half to work that much harder than to overcome the obstacles placed in front of them. Nobody has ever gone on to live a productive and meaningful life by obsessing over one obstacle, suing the obstacle, spending years of their life and thousands of dollars putting the obstacle on trial, and throwing the obstacle in jail. Letting a specific event define your standing in the world is tantamount to wasting the greatest gift the world has bestowed upon them, life. Date Rape is a perfect excuse for becoming depressed and surrendering your worth to the court system, relying on lawyers to “come in like a wrecking ball” and fight for what’s left of their plaintiff’s dignity. Or they overcome adversity, accomplish tremendous feats, and become the hero of their own story. Stop blaming environmental factors for getting into precarious situations, take responsibility for your own actions, and learn from both good and bad experiences.
I actually think quite a bit of this essay is relatively logical and well-written *brain explode* I thought this had to be some sort of troll/copypasta cause that is possibly the worst piece of writing I've ever read. It has constant grammatical errors, tense confusion, POV/audience confusion, a lack of authority and support, massive logical holes, in addition to being a repugnant insensitive position. It's like the perfect storm of awful. Don't be such a fucking whiteknight. Girls misuse and stigmatize the term rape when in almost all cases it's mutual and post sex they sober up and realize they didn't want to have sex with that dude. Women are repulsive creatures with no morals whatsoever which are only controlled by their current emotions. Prepare to get white knighted with that horrible and false generalization of women. Some girl must've harmed you.
Just throw him in prison for awhile so he can better come to understand the meaning of the term "consent."
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Always find it interesting when people make a general insult toward women. Don't they have a mother or a sister (or else) ?
Bah whatever.
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It's Shauni, when I read him, my autism intensifies.
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On October 02 2013 06:54 Shauni wrote: girls are never worth it, trust me
On December 08 2013 21:00 Shauni wrote: Don't understand the issue, all girls are crazy even though asians are a bit more nympho. Don't go into some stupid provider role and just enjoy having sex with her body. I don't think you honestly believe you're in a difficult situation, you basically want to brag about having sex with young college girls. And you don't even provide the good details. I want my 5 minutes back. Should we be surprised that he would make such a comment about women in general? And now that I think about it, these comments have some similarity to separatist feminism
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On December 20 2013 13:32 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 21:00 Shauni wrote: Don't understand the issue, all girls are crazy even though asians are a bit more nympho. Don't go into some stupid provider role and just enjoy having sex with her body. I don't think you honestly believe you're in a difficult situation, you basically want to brag about having sex with young college girls. And you don't even provide the good details. I want my 5 minutes back. Should we be surprised that he would make such a comment about women in general? And now that I think about it, these comments have some similarity to separatist feminism
Shauni is a self-loathing closeted lesbian trapped in a man's body.
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from reading this thread you would think he hit the nail on the head though
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On December 20 2013 14:41 VayneAuthority wrote: from reading this thread you would think he hit the nail on the head though Not really; why do you say that? I don't think people (mainly guys) sharing their dating successes and failures paints women as emotionally manipulative evil beings.
Sure, there's the odd story that makes it look like the root of all misery in his life is this one girl, but it's the exception, not the rule... and even in most of those cases, it takes two to tango.
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On December 20 2013 09:50 Shauni wrote: Don't be such a fucking whiteknight. Girls misuse and stigmatize the term rape when in almost all cases it's mutual and post sex they sober up and realize they didn't want to have sex with that dude. Women are repulsive creatures with no morals whatsoever which are only controlled by their current emotions. Are you real? Do you walk around with those thoughts in your head? Do you tell them to other people, like outside of the Internet? What do they say to you when you tell them your thoughts on women?
On December 20 2013 14:16 IgnE wrote: Shauni is a self-loathing closeted lesbian trapped in a man's body. No. Lesbians generally like women.
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On December 20 2013 16:24 Calanthe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2013 14:16 IgnE wrote: Shauni is a self-loathing closeted lesbian trapped in a man's body. No. Lesbians generally like women.
Hence the self-loathing part.
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I don't think that even the self-loathiest of closeted lesbians could hold a candle to the blaze of vitriol that spews from/is Shauni.
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It's shocking and amazing at the same time to me, the capacity for evil and indifference men can feel when they simply can't succeed with women.
Date rape essays? Shauni's general views? Man, that's some SCARY and repressed shit.
Women aren't even difficult you guys just convince yourselves they are and then you don't get them because... ironically... they can feel how uncomfortable you are talking to them since you've convinced yourselves that it's difficult.
That makes them uncomfortable. They're looking to you for masculine and grounded energy, unshakeable confidence, and instead they get a quivering bitch with issues.
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On December 20 2013 16:43 Last.Midnight wrote: It's shocking and amazing at the same time to me, the capacity for evil and indifference men can feel when they simply can't succeed with women.
Date rape essays? Shauni's general views? Man, that's some SCARY and repressed shit.
Women aren't even difficult you guys just convince yourselves they are and then you don't get them because... ironically... they can feel how uncomfortable you are talking to them since you've convinced yourselves that it's difficult.
That makes them uncomfortable. They're looking to you for masculine and grounded energy, unshakeable confidence, and instead they get a quivering bitch with issues.
Truth.
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So last night I had my very first prom. It was kind of a mixture between a prom and a party, though. Anyway, I should start by the beginning.
I share French classes with this girl and since the beginning of this schoolyear she's joined me and a friend at a table more and more, to the point where I got to know her a little bit.
So at this party, I saw her dancing in the corner of my eye, didn't really pay attention to it at all. Later on she walked up to me, telling me her friend/boyfriend (Don't know if he was a boyfriend, I don't think so.) was wasted and annoying and didnt want to dance. Very subtly she went: ''..So I don't really have anyone to dance with now..'' I knew this question was coming too, which made it even worse. I know exactly what to do before and after these situations, but in the moment, i seem to stoneify or something. So I said ''Aww, I'm sorry..'' It kind of reminds me of How I Met Your Mother Season 1, the Pilot, where they go about ''the signal.'' That was the signal.
I felt like such an ass for the entire night 1. I felt sorry for her 2. I felt sorry for myself because I'm so terrible at this 3. I didn't get free pizza from my friends who I made a deal with: The one that ends up with a girl/dance, w/e, gets free pizza!
We got pizza afterwards anyway (like we appointed), but it wasn't the same.
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^ I know it's disappointing for you but it's so adorable to read.
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On December 20 2013 19:18 Thalandros wrote:So last night I had my very first prom. It was kind of a mixture between a prom and a party, though. Anyway, I should start by the beginning. I share French classes with this girl and since the beginning of this schoolyear she's joined me and a friend at a table more and more, to the point where I got to know her a little bit. So at this party, I saw her dancing in the corner of my eye, didn't really pay attention to it at all. Later on she walked up to me, telling me her friend/boyfriend (Don't know if he was a boyfriend, I don't think so.) was wasted and annoying and didnt want to dance. Very subtly she went: ''..So I don't really have anyone to dance with now..'' I knew this question was coming too, which made it even worse. I know exactly what to do before and after these situations, but in the moment, i seem to stoneify or something. So I said ''Aww, I'm sorry..'' It kind of reminds me of How I Met Your Mother Season 1, the Pilot, where they go about ''the signal.'' That was the signal. I felt like such an ass for the entire night 1. I felt sorry for her 2. I felt sorry for myself because I'm so terrible at this 3. I didn't get free pizza from my friends who I made a deal with: The one that ends up with a girl/dance, w/e, gets free pizza!We got pizza afterwards anyway (like we appointed), but it wasn't the same.  You will get more comfortable in those situations.
To the bolded part: That should've been the incentive to go for it, though. Nothing beats free pizza.
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On December 20 2013 16:43 Last.Midnight wrote: It's shocking and amazing at the same time to me, the capacity for evil and indifference men can feel when they simply can't succeed with women.
Date rape essays? Shauni's general views? Man, that's some SCARY and repressed shit.
Women aren't even difficult you guys just convince yourselves they are and then you don't get them because... ironically... they can feel how uncomfortable you are talking to them since you've convinced yourselves that it's difficult.
That makes them uncomfortable. They're looking to you for masculine and grounded energy, unshakeable confidence, and instead they get a quivering bitch with issues.
You are basically correct. Women are incredibly simplistic and like I said, driven by their primal nature. It's men lingering in thoughts who make things difficult. And god forbid the male to have issues because what would society look like if we didn't follow the gender roles? A woman with confidence issues on the other hand is just cute and invokes the damsel in distress urge in you alpha males. Because your grounded, unshakable energy will undoubtedly help her find peace within herself.
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On December 20 2013 09:50 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 15:02 ZapRoffo wrote:On December 19 2013 14:43 Wingblade wrote:On December 19 2013 13:59 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:My girlfriend got mad at me after reading my final essay defending date rape for my philosophy class final.I guess her friend was date raped before. Any ideas how I can make her stop acting crazy? If you care to read my essay for yourself here it is: + Show Spoiler +Ever since the term Date Rape was coined by doctor Mary Koss in 1987, a convoluted piece of legislation of the same name has been injected into the United States of America’s court system. Over the last two and a half decades, this law has been proven ineffective and destructive for a vast majority of the female population while simultaneously keeping the justice system gridlocked with litigant’s arbitrary and contradictory allegations of abuse. Having date rape being illegal is fallacious for a multitude of reasons. It is ineffective; it conflicts with laws already put in place, utilizes the term rape incorrectly, based upon unreliable evidence, creates more victims, and hurts the victims of date rape more than the actual event. Date rape has nothing to do with rape. The Federal Bureau of Investigation classifies the term rape as a violent crime. Furthermore, rape has nothing at all to do with sex, just ask a feminist. They will gladly point out that rape is about having dominion, power, and control over someone. Date rape is defined as a sexual act that rarely involved violence. That means date rape is a sexual crime not a violent crime. It is disingenuous and irresponsible to attach the word rape to a crime that is virtually absent of violence. The term date rape is interchangeable with term sexual assault. Sexual assault is any involuntary sexual act in which a person is threatened, coerced, or forced to engage against their will, or any sexual touching of a person who has not consented. With sexual assault laws already on the books, the date rape law could be adjudicated from arbitration without issue, date rape cases could be easily converted to sexual assault charges, and the criminal litigation process would be streamlined. This simple move would make rape cases less complicated and confusing while correctly classifying date rape as a sexual crime. Having date rape illegal doesn’t prevent the prevalence of rape, but increases the amount of victims, further exacerbating the problem. Victim is the priciest sell in this world. The victim feels the most and suffers the best. Once you label someone as a victim, the more likely a person is to be victimized. When you have been victimized by someone, the arousal of that encounter etches a pattern into the brain, the brain then tries to master that arousal by attracting perpetrators that are prone to the kind of abusive behavior they fear, and the cycle of victimization continues. This phenomenon is called traumatic reenactment, where a survivor of previous abuse compulsively seeks out the same acts of abuse for the remainder of their lifetime. While date rape is awful and should be avoided at all costs, acknowledgement that you are powerless in a situation is far more painful than the actual indent. If a person never sees themself as a victim, the pattern never emerges, thus the cycle of abuse never begins. Most rape victims report that revisiting the trauma of a date rape committed against them while testifying against their alleged assailant is more damaging to their mental and emotional psyche than the actual sexual assault. When the justice system does more damage than a rapist you know something is fundamentally broken within American legal practices. In several circumstances, federal criminal court judges have actually ordered rape victims to appear at the rapists…I mean therapists office. The victim has to relive the trauma in perpetuity by talking to the psychologist about the event ad nauseum. It is much healthier to accept what happened, chalk it up to making poor life choices, and move on. Alcohol is one of the most powerful aphrodisiacs for women. Alcohol is also the most common intoxicants involving date rape. Women's erotic placidity is much more different than a man’s. Studies conducted measuring genital blood flow concludes that; women do not inherently know what turns them on. In women’s biological psychology, there is a schism between how her body is responding to a stimulus and what she reports to her brain consciously. From this information we can deduct that a women’s ability to gauge how her body is responding to sexual encounters can become compromised. Adding the consumption of alcohol to the picture further complicates the issue making a date rape case next to impossible to prove within a reasonable doubt. Therefore the vast majority of date rape cases lack the validity to be tried in a court of law. Recovering for a traumatic event is completely dependent or the victim’s intrinsic motivation to endure adversity. Some people get dealt a bad hand in life and half to work that much harder than to overcome the obstacles placed in front of them. Nobody has ever gone on to live a productive and meaningful life by obsessing over one obstacle, suing the obstacle, spending years of their life and thousands of dollars putting the obstacle on trial, and throwing the obstacle in jail. Letting a specific event define your standing in the world is tantamount to wasting the greatest gift the world has bestowed upon them, life. Date Rape is a perfect excuse for becoming depressed and surrendering your worth to the court system, relying on lawyers to “come in like a wrecking ball” and fight for what’s left of their plaintiff’s dignity. Or they overcome adversity, accomplish tremendous feats, and become the hero of their own story. Stop blaming environmental factors for getting into precarious situations, take responsibility for your own actions, and learn from both good and bad experiences.
I actually think quite a bit of this essay is relatively logical and well-written *brain explode* I thought this had to be some sort of troll/copypasta cause that is possibly the worst piece of writing I've ever read. It has constant grammatical errors, tense confusion, POV/audience confusion, a lack of authority and support, massive logical holes, in addition to being a repugnant insensitive position. It's like the perfect storm of awful. Don't be such a fucking whiteknight. Girls misuse and stigmatize the term rape when in almost all cases it's mutual and post sex they sober up and realize they didn't want to have sex with that dude. Women are repulsive creatures with no morals whatsoever which are only controlled by their current emotions.
good thing coats can't get drunk and change their minds
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On December 20 2013 19:18 Thalandros wrote:So last night I had my very first prom. It was kind of a mixture between a prom and a party, though. Anyway, I should start by the beginning. I share French classes with this girl and since the beginning of this schoolyear she's joined me and a friend at a table more and more, to the point where I got to know her a little bit. So at this party, I saw her dancing in the corner of my eye, didn't really pay attention to it at all. Later on she walked up to me, telling me her friend/boyfriend (Don't know if he was a boyfriend, I don't think so.) was wasted and annoying and didnt want to dance. Very subtly she went: ''..So I don't really have anyone to dance with now..'' I knew this question was coming too, which made it even worse. I know exactly what to do before and after these situations, but in the moment, i seem to stoneify or something. So I said ''Aww, I'm sorry..'' It kind of reminds me of How I Met Your Mother Season 1, the Pilot, where they go about ''the signal.'' That was the signal. I felt like such an ass for the entire night 1. I felt sorry for her 2. I felt sorry for myself because I'm so terrible at this 3. I didn't get free pizza from my friends who I made a deal with: The one that ends up with a girl/dance, w/e, gets free pizza! We got pizza afterwards anyway (like we appointed), but it wasn't the same. 
Well you can still try to climb the mountain back. I understand that you think you've blown it forever missing the opportunity so sure you feel like an ass. But that's the past now so you can't help it. You can still give it a shot.
And at first I was reading "So last night I had my very first porn" ;X
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On December 21 2013 03:07 rezoacken wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2013 19:18 Thalandros wrote:So last night I had my very first prom. It was kind of a mixture between a prom and a party, though. Anyway, I should start by the beginning. I share French classes with this girl and since the beginning of this schoolyear she's joined me and a friend at a table more and more, to the point where I got to know her a little bit. So at this party, I saw her dancing in the corner of my eye, didn't really pay attention to it at all. Later on she walked up to me, telling me her friend/boyfriend (Don't know if he was a boyfriend, I don't think so.) was wasted and annoying and didnt want to dance. Very subtly she went: ''..So I don't really have anyone to dance with now..'' I knew this question was coming too, which made it even worse. I know exactly what to do before and after these situations, but in the moment, i seem to stoneify or something. So I said ''Aww, I'm sorry..'' It kind of reminds me of How I Met Your Mother Season 1, the Pilot, where they go about ''the signal.'' That was the signal. I felt like such an ass for the entire night 1. I felt sorry for her 2. I felt sorry for myself because I'm so terrible at this 3. I didn't get free pizza from my friends who I made a deal with: The one that ends up with a girl/dance, w/e, gets free pizza! We got pizza afterwards anyway (like we appointed), but it wasn't the same.  Well you can still try to climb the mountain back. I understand that you think you've blown it forever missing the opportunity so sure you feel like an ass. But that's the past now so you can't help it. You can still give it a shot. And at first I was reading "So last night I had my very first porn" ;X Thank god I wasn't the only one 
@Thalandros: you're young. She's probably just as uncertain about it as you are! You'll have another chance (try to be sure that other guy isn't actually her boyfriend, though).
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