Bulgarian Riots - Page 2
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Bulgaria2145 Posts
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
They don't pay bills, some of them claim benefits and in my home town they even got new apartments, which are now in ruins, "surprisingly". It is natural for Bulgarians to become hostile towards them, I mean it is hard enough for the working class, it is even harder when someone is living at your expense and is not contributing in any way to the nation's welfare. Bulgaria isn't a strong economy and cannot support these people. This it is becoming a growing problem, but the government has neglected this growing divide between the general population and the minorities for too long. I just hope this doesn't grow into a more serious conflict. Bulgaria has enough problems as it is. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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3Form
United Kingdom389 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:25 Pandemona wrote: Have you ever encountered them? There are THOUSANDS of gypsis from romania who come over to England ILLEGALLY to pick pocket us and to enduce sex slavery. Was a huge documentary on ITV on it about 1-2 years ago. Source They are known for trickery and thievery. You obviously havent encountered them or heard about them before. ROFL He quotes the Daily Mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most gypsies in the UK are Irish travellers, there are in comparison few Romanies. The Romanies get so much shit that they don't deserve. What is wrong with respecting other cultural traditions? Oh yeah I kind of forgot that it's our duty as Western Europeans to civilise everybody. | ||
nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:32 aTnClouD wrote: dude you have no idea how wicked gypsies are. they are a true plague to humanity and only the people living in countries who have them understand. ask bulgarians, romanians, french or italian people they will all tell you the same. It's sad that I actually agree with this about a HUGE group of people.....I know a lot of people probably will not belive it is this bad but it really is. | ||
m00nchile
Slovenia240 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:46 Inex wrote: Saying that all gypsies are bad or are happy with the way they live is an ignorant statement, but the majority of the gypsy population just doesn't want to be integrated into society. They are better off living on the back of hard working Bulgarian people. This conflict is just a direct result of the government's lack of effort to find a solution to the gypsy problem. They don't pay bills, some of them claim benefits and in my home town they even got new apartments, which are now in ruins, "surprisingly". It is natural for Bulgarians to become hostile towards them, I mean it is hard enough for the working class, it is even harder when someone is living at your expense and is not contributing in any way to the nation's welfare. Bulgaria isn't a strong economy and cannot support these people. This it is becoming a growing problem, but the government has neglected this growing divide between the general population and the minorities for too long. I just hope this doesn't grow into a more serious conflict. Bulgaria has enough problems as it is. Exactely, supporting disenfrachised minorities that have no choice in their situation is one thing. Giving money and living quarters to people who don't send their childern to school, don't work/pay taxes and survive off rummaging through trash and stealing is just wrong, no wonder people are getting agressive. | ||
andycz
288 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:42 plated.rawr wrote: Sorry for Godwinning this. I feel the comparison is scarily accurate though. While their culture might be based upon scavenging, that doesn't in any way make them less human. that's a stupid comparison and you're stupid for coming up with it. "While their culture might be based upon scavenging, that doesn't in any way make them less human." LOL. look i know that you're living up there so you're a subject to fuckload of multiculturalist and leftist bullshit, but seriously, you shouldn't be brainwashed like that. cloud is indeed right, 90% of gypsies are scum, living out of state support and crime, while basically turning any place they come to into a ghetto. and i'm not even being racist here, i'm just telling you what the reality in the eastern europe is. | ||
ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:46 Inex wrote: Saying that all gypsies are bad or are happy with the way they live is an ignorant statement, but the majority of the gypsy population just doesn't want to be integrated into society. They are better off living on the back of hard working Bulgarian people. This conflict is just a direct result of the government's lack of effort to find a solution to the gypsy problem. They don't pay bills, some of them claim benefits and in my home town they even got new apartments, which are now in ruins, "surprisingly". It is natural for Bulgarians to become hostile towards them, I mean it is hard enough for the working class, it is even harder when someone is living at your expense and is not contributing in any way to the nation's welfare. Bulgaria isn't a strong economy and cannot support these people. This it is becoming a growing problem, but the government has neglected this growing divide between the general population and the minorities for too long. I just hope this doesn't grow into a more serious conflict. Bulgaria has enough problems as it is. This is very well said and isn't right only for Bulgaria, but for many other countries. Everyone please read it before posting ignorant comments about racism and discrimination. | ||
Michaels
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
The french gave them 300 EUR to get on the first plane back to romania. Great solution sarkozy. they came back and found another way to smuggle themselves back into france or other countries. i would be in charge of law making i would make squatting a crime punishable by community service. if you don't want to do anything beneficial to society you should be forced to do it i realize i'm pretty extremist but i am so sickened by the current situation and the authorities failure to do anything useful to help the ones that want to be helped | ||
aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:49 nafta wrote: It's sad that I actually agree with this about a HUGE group of people.....I know a lot of people probably will not belive it is this bad but it really is. Yea i feel the same way. You dont want to hate a group of people and you know it's wrong, but gypsies make it pretty hard not to hate them. That being said i'm sure there are many gypsies who dont fit this stereotype, but so many do. I remember watching a documentary on this not too long ago, their lifestyle was so disgusting. Teaching their children to steal and worse. | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:49 3Form wrote: ROFL He quotes the Daily Mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most gypsies in the UK are Irish travellers, there are in comparison few Romanies. The Romanies get so much shit that they don't deserve. What is wrong with respecting other cultural traditions? Oh yeah I kind of forgot that it's our duty as Western Europeans to civilise everybody. i QUOTED the newspaper link detailing the source of my argument, Gypsies are NOT Travellers. I did not quote TRAVELLERS in the UK i quoted about the Gypsies who came over from Romania to pick pocket us which was a huge underground black market buisness set up by the ROMANIAN Gypsies not the Irish Travellers which dont pay council tax -_-. If you read the paper or even google it you will see my point. A huge documentary in london underground stations showing the amount of romanian gypsy children who are pick pocketing people in subways. | ||
Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:50 andycz wrote: that's a stupid comparison and you're stupid for coming up with it. "While their culture might be based upon scavenging, that doesn't in any way make them less human." LOL. look i know that you're living up there so you're a subject to fuckload of multiculturalist and leftist bullshit, but seriously, you shouldn't be brainwashed like that. cloud is indeed right, 90% of gypsies are scum, living out of state support and crime, while basically turning any place they come to into a ghetto. and i'm not even being racist here, i'm just telling you what the reality in the eastern europe is. I have to bold this part, for a few years now small groups of Gypsies have been coming to Finland during the summer and they actually built ghetto-like 'villages' into the middle of the capital here. | ||
m00nchile
Slovenia240 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:50 andycz wrote: that's a stupid comparison and you're stupid for coming up with it. "While their culture might be based upon scavenging, that doesn't in any way make them less human." LOL. look i know that you're living up there so you're a subject to fuckload of multiculturalist and leftist bullshit, but seriously, you shouldn't be brainwashed like that. cloud is indeed right, 90% of gypsies are scum, living out of state support and crime, while basically turning any place they come to into a ghetto. and i'm not even being racist here, i'm just telling you what the reality in the eastern europe is. See my post at the end of page 1. Persecution based on race/belief is wrong. Persecution because you break the law... isn't that the definition of persecution? Just to be clear, I'm agreeing with you. | ||
3Form
United Kingdom389 Posts
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:43 m00nchile wrote: We have the same problem here in Slovenia. I'm from the coast and whenever a group of gypsies come to a local camp wallets and cellphones go missing, it's even worse inland. The biggest problem with them is their neglect for their children. They don't take them to school, insted they drive around during times of communal waste disposal and rummage through trash looking for metal. It's a vicious cycle and they don't want to end it. That's what makes them unfit members of any society. edit: Who said it's the scavenging people have a problem with? It's the stealing, assaulting and even sometimes killing that makes them a problem. Jews were assaulted in Nazi Germany because they were jews. I don't see the least bit of correlation here. Stealing, scavenging - meh, they're both pretty much the same. As for assault and murder - do you honestly believe that every gypsy takes part in this, that there's some genetic gypsy-only murder-and-assault-gene? Of course there isn't. Stop acting like it's some inherent flaw with the people as a whole. If their culture fosters such impulses though, then that's a serious problem which must be dealt with, but it has nothing to do with race. Claiming it to be is ignorant, insulting and bigoted. As for jews, they were very disliked before the second world war in pretty much the entire developed world. Had not the Holocaust been so specifically targetted and caused so unfathomably many deaths, the jewish people would not have earned any of the sympathy they got post-war, and would still be regarded as a "plague to humanity" by large numbers. On September 27 2011 21:50 andycz wrote: that's a stupid comparison and you're stupid for coming up with it. "While their culture might be based upon scavenging, that doesn't in any way make them less human." LOL. look i know that you're living up there so you're a subject to fuckload of multiculturalist and leftist bullshit, but seriously, you shouldn't be brainwashed like that. cloud is indeed right, 90% of gypsies are scum, living out of state support and crime, while basically turning any place they come to into a ghetto. and i'm not even being racist here, i'm just telling you what the reality in the eastern europe is. If they're able to live off of state support and not return anything to society (through taxes or work), then it sounds like it's your ruleset that's the problem. Attack the root of the problem (a system allowing abuse) instead of the consequences (a people abusing the system) of it. And sure, I'll agree that 90% of gypsies are scum, probably. That said, 90% of the entire human population is scum, though. | ||
Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On September 27 2011 21:52 aTnClouD wrote: I am amazed at how stupid people can pull out the nazi card whenever they feel like. Like it or not the gypsy problem is there and it can't be solved through conventional methods cause they refuse integration more than anyone else. They litteraly live off criminality and that's pretty much all they can do. So you propose to kill them? If ever a Nazi comparison was justified, then in answer to your bullshit. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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