Occupy Wall Street - Page 185

On November 22 2011 08:46 Myles wrote:

LOL. That's a damn good sign. I generally disagree with their methods, even though I agree with their core message(that the system is fucked up), but that's too good.

On November 22 2011 11:00 Krikkitone wrote:


Actually, they DO enforce bank regulation like they do park rules, they ignore the problem and hope it will go away untill they have to overreact (if they had taken down tents the Very first night they appeared, you wouldn't have the problems you do now)

On November 22 2011 07:16 Pertinacious wrote:


I don't think that "hypocritical" means what you think it means.

Also, money is seldom the goal. Money is only as useful as what you can purchase with it, in that sense money is absolutely a tool.

The protesters make a lot of points, some good, some bad, but their methods are suspect and their message is dilute.

EDIT - Also the US isn't and has never been a Democracy.

On November 22 2011 15:06 CurLy[] wrote:


By over react do you mean the government is gonna bail us out too?

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/21/arrests-in-tuition-protest-at-baruch-college/

This happened today

On November 22 2011 21:28 H0i wrote:


It means what I think it means.

Don't try to lecture me about money. If it isn't the goal then why do many banks, corporations, governments, politicians and other people act in the way they do? Instead of using it as a tool to make things better they use it as a goal which makes things a lot worse...

On November 23 2011 00:16 Pertinacious wrote:


Let's hope not, there have been too many bailouts already.



Well, I can assure you there's nothing hypocritical about me criticizing the OWS movement, or banks, or the tea party, or the government, etc.

Money is always the means to an end. You can't survive by eating money, you can't build (decent) shelter out of it. I think what you really mean is that they're not using their money in the way you think they should be using it. If that's the case, then we may agree to a point. Ex: I think it's deplorable that our government has used our money to socialize the losses of private companies.

On November 23 2011 00:45 aksfjh wrote:

To what end does a for-profit corporation make money?

On November 23 2011 01:01 Krikkitone wrote:


To make money for the owners... who then use the money for things like food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, luxuries, and impressing people/power. (the basic uses of money)

What happens now will define his presidency. (regardless of the past 3 years)

On November 23 2011 09:01 DeepElemBlues wrote:


I don't think the reaction of 1% is going to define anything.

On November 23 2011 15:58 screamingpalm wrote:
Great Samantha Bee bit on the Daily Show that really highlights the problems with the Left in this country. Reminded me of Orwell's "Animal Farm" when a group decided to start making decisions in a bank lobby lol.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."

A woman who was pepper sprayed during during a raid on Occupy Seattle last week is blaming police after she miscarried Sunday.

Jennifer Fox, 19, told The Stranger that she had been with the Occupy protests since they started in Westlake Park. She said she was homeless and three months pregnant, but felt the need to join activists during their march last Tuesday.

“I was standing in the middle of the crowd when the police started moving in,” Fox recalled. “I was screaming, ‘I am pregnant, I am pregnant. Let me through. I am trying to get out.’”

She claimed that police hit her in the stomach twice before pepper spraying her. One officer struck her with his foot and another pushed his bicycle into her. It wasn’t clear if either of those incidents were intentional.

“Right before I turned, both cops lifted their pepper spray and sprayed me. My eyes puffed up and my eyes swelled shut,” Fox said.

Seattle Post-Intelligencer photographer Joshua Trujillo snapped a picture of Fox in apparent agony as another activist carried her to an ambulance.

On November 24 2011 00:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Not really sure what to think of this... Any Medical TL'ers?



Source

On November 23 2011 01:09 SagaZ wrote:
Occupying wall street might not be a bad idea after all. Wall Street represent pretty much what they are fighting to change, thought I'm pretty sure alot of them don't realize that.
You see, there's nothing wrong being rich, a guy makes good money, has an industry, employs people, fabricates good, make the system work. Sure, those people working under him are not as rich as him, but have a pleasant life, able to feed their familys, have vacations, ect... As long as the rich guy remains productive, the system still works. If that guy goes down, it's not just his confort that will be compromised, but also the live of the people that work and eat thanks to his activity.

Now the real problem is those that get rich, even filthy rich by not producing, not creating goods, not employing people. People that only do this financial movements and toy with speculation to make mass of money. These are purely movements, have no productive sense in the actual world and are purely based on speculation. Thing is, for people to make money of this (and beleive me, they do, alot) they have to crush smaller buisness and people. And the problem is that right now, speculating and toying with those flows is cheaper than producing. So the most effective way to make money is by non-producing, mind you, owning a factory is expensive, operating it is even more expensive. Buying and selling shares? well, 1 click on the computer and that's it.

This is in my opinion, the real cancer of the actual economy, and makes the difference between the 1% and the 99% stronger everyday. Money produces even more money, even on weekends. This should not be possible, as long as speculating is cheaper than producing the problem will presist. Changing this requires a worlwide iniciative that will make alot of powerfull people angry, witch not alot of people are willing to do. Meanwhile we point fingers at the wrong persons, and frankly, it's the equivalent of shooting oneself in the foot.

On November 25 2011 08:17 FryktSkyene wrote:
Can someone explain how this is helping them? Or are they all just douchebags?



I really want to take a camera down with some buddies of mine and interview random people there asking what the goals are and how they will achieve them. My bet is 95% of the people we would ask have no clue.