EPTKorean Highschool Documentry - Page 5
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:39 phosphorylation wrote: That is pretty subjective. I just think that is western-centric perspective; of course, it is also true many koreans (unfortunately) have this perspective. This isn't the case for me and I would take an "average" Asian girl over a "hot" caucasian girl any day, given everything else is equal. I don't see how it's a western-centric perspective. Most Westerners think Asians are exotic and hot, even ones that are ugly (Like Lucy Liu). To me, it's a bigger tell when Asians themselves agree Asians are not good looking. It's rare for a culture to be self-hating. Then again, highest avg IQ's are Jewish people then Asians. Both these populations have a long history of self-loathing LOL. So maybe intelligence is a factor? XD | ||
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SolidGasPro
93 Posts
Spread this message to depressed Korean girls! User was warned for this post | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:46 SolidGasPro wrote: I'd bang any of the girls mentioned by movie or comments providing i get enough whiskey and I won't meet them again. Spread this message to depressed Korean girls! I think they want the relationship more than the sex. | ||
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MudkipSEA`
Singapore67 Posts
I'm going to use Singapore as an example of a stereotypical highschooler in a modern eastern asian society. Our GSE A Level's is crazy competitive. The grading system is A-U with A-E as passes and S and U as a fail grade. To get into a local university, you'll need to get at least a BBBB and to get into a good course its AAAA. Its utter madness. Btw, its 4am here in SIngapore and I'm still cramming for my examination in 2 months. It is no different from other modern eastern societies like Hongkong and Korea. Edit: I wrote this without first reading fully the OP, and realised most points are already there. So, yes, 16 hours, and most of the time, it's not enough. | ||
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:39 mapthesoul wrote: Why are you only talking about eyelid surgery? The girl in video clearly mentioned getting hear nose done, not to mention that pretty much every TV-personality in Korea has had surgery (not only eyelids). I would also say fashion is more important in Korea than America, from what I've read and seen. Because the misleading "Korea leads the world in plastic surgery" is pretty much driven by eyelid surgery. And my point is that we're projecting Western values of plastic surgery on a different culture. It would be a lot like Asians criticizing us for being so obsessed with teeth straightening procedures, or skin-tanning procedures, or boob-enhancing procedures. The point is, there is simply zero evidence that Korea is somehow more concerned about looks than any other rich country. | ||
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:43 krndandaman wrote: It's not that these things are popular that is the problem. The problem is that society views these things as "requirements" to be beautiful. If you don't have have white fair skin, double eye-lids, and a small face, you will never be called beautiful in korea. Every single society has their own standards of beauty; it's called evolution. And in particular, rich countries spend a lot of money and time on meeting such standards, because they can. I see no reason to criticize Korean society simply because their standard is different than ours. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:43 StorkHwaiting wrote: I don't see how it's a western-centric perspective. Most Westerners think Asians are exotic and hot, even ones that are ugly (Like Lucy Liu). To me, it's a bigger tell when Asians themselves agree Asians are not good looking. It's rare for a culture to be self-hating. Then again, highest avg IQ's are Jewish people then Asians. Both these populations have a long history of self-loathing LOL. So maybe intelligence is a factor? XD I'm just saying koreans have increasingly adopted the western perspective and culture, often without much discretion, all of which leads to such sad, misguided opinions of beauty. Do you think, for example, koreans in the chosun dynasty (200 years ago eg.) would have thought westerns were "hotter" on average? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:49 MudkipSEA` wrote: I think I can empathize with these korean high schoolers. There are many parallels i find in Korea and Singapore, and I have a good korean friend that is studying with me in secondary (high school) right now. The high emphasize on tests and exams is staggering, creating a very prominent tuition culture in both societies. Well, tuition in our countries is like, going to a "private school/centre" after school to do more work because of the competitiveness in education. Its really crazy and demoralizing to know that one exam, can really determine your life. I'm going to use Singapore as an example of a stereotypical highschooler in a modern eastern asian society. Our GSE A Level's is crazy competitive. The grading system is A-U with A-E as passes and S and U as a fail grade. To get into a local university, you'll need to get at least a BBBB and to get into a good course its AAAA. Its utter madness. Btw, its 4am here in SIngapore and I'm still cramming for my examination in 2 months. It is no different from other modern eastern societies like Hongkong and Korea. srsly if its 4am in singapore and you're supposed to prepare for an important exam in 2 months don't surf in teamliquid^^ | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:32 Eppa! wrote: I always found it strange that plastic surgery is incredibly stigmatized while make up, designer fashion, hair dues etc. are generally excepted. It honestly not a big leap from make up to surgery. In the end you are simply making yourself beautiful. Sweden is incredibly vain, yet it is without the surgery. I heard on the radio that bosses thought a women without make up were unprofessional and would not be hired. Double standards are always present. I would not be surprised if plastic surgery was mainstream in the western world in 20 years. that's a little different but I guess somewhat similar. I mean, if a girl doesn't wear makeup that's equivalent to someone not dressing up appropriately for a job interview or if a guy looks really raggedy; messy hair and messy beard. In a job interview, it's good to look presentable. You are going to represent the company and things like that go hand in hand whereas surgery isn't a standard for representation. The person on the radio didn't say that he hires upon beauty. I guess he's saying that a girl with makeup on but is more ugly than a girl who didn't have makeup, is a better candidate. | ||
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Absolutionn
United States512 Posts
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sechkie
United States334 Posts
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MudkipSEA`
Singapore67 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:51 AsnSensation wrote: srsly if its 4am in singapore and you're supposed to prepare for an important exam in 2 months don't surf in teamliquid^^ Haha! Yeah! That's one thing i need to stop doing. I guess I really need to focus. >< While my mates are studying away, I'm here on TL. | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
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MudkipSEA`
Singapore67 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:54 sechkie wrote: in Korea the hardest part of school is definitely getting out of high school because once you get into your graduate school your set, all you got to do is pass the exams to get into your program. Also, there is the "rule" of someting along the lines of if you sleep 4 hours then you will fail, implying that a Korean student must sleep 4 or less hours per day to study in order to keep up. This results in all of the "study groups" that go on late at night similar to the japanese study groups. Its really true. And if might I add , late at night may imply to some as 11-12, but some go on to the early mornings. My friends ( in Singapore) stay up all night at 24 hour fast food outlets to study, and take the first bus home in the morning on the weekends. Sleep for maybe 2-3 hours and get going again. | ||
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ChinaLifeXXL
United States365 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
And he's still a top code S player. Sick. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:53 illsick wrote: that's a little different but I guess somewhat similar. I mean, if a girl doesn't wear makeup that's equivalent to someone not dressing up appropriately for a job interview or if a guy looks really raggedy; messy hair and messy beard. In a job interview, it's good to look presentable. You are going to represent the company and things like that go hand in hand whereas surgery isn't a standard for representation. The person on the radio didn't say that he hires upon beauty. I guess he's saying that a girl with makeup on but is more ugly than a girl who didn't have makeup, is a better candidate. But having double eyelids makes you look more presentable. Beauty is a core part in looking presentable. The only reason why make up is required to look presentable (rather than just coming hair and putting on some skin moister.) is that society says that WOMEN have to use make up to look professional. Where is the distinction between make up and eyelid surgery? It mostly that we see it differently. One is currently required one is currently not. This could easily change. On August 27 2011 05:03 marttorn wrote: Now, consider the fact that Polt/Optimus goes to one of the most competitive schools in korea (the "harvard of korea" as tasteless put it) And he's still a top code S player. Sick. Is college the same in SK as in uK? really hard to get in, then its really easy unless you have scholarship? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
gained much more respect for Polt/optimus btw if he really attends the korean harvard and still has formidable college succes. | ||
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