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On August 27 2011 04:12 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Surprising that GPA doesn't seem to take any role in college admissions. In the US, it's pretty much the most important thing even more so than standardized exams (I've talked to admissions boards and I know from friends who went to really easy ass public schools). I have a friend who got 2400 on the SAT, took over 10 AP exams (mostly 5s, couple 4's), was involved in several clubs and sports, but only had 4.4 GPA because it was the highest possible at his crazy private school (he only ever got A's), etc.. He was not accepted into any Ivy Leagues or Stanford to which he applied.
So it really surprises me that in Korea, one exam means everything. I think that's kind of dumb... one bad day, and you're screwed.
You can take the exam again the year after and, as far as I understand, your previous results don't inhibit your chance of getting in later.
Of course, your parents will be pissed and they might just tell you to get a blue collar job. It really depends if your family is willing to support you for another year while you study for the exam again. Same thing in China.
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On August 27 2011 02:08 GizmoPT wrote:
god that black teacher should be fired teaching that crap......
what the hell really teaching beauty surgeries are good ? -.-
Yeah dude, South Korea has the highest rate of "beauty" surgeries in the world. All the girls get eye surgeries from what I hear.
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Isn't the plastic surgery statistic a little misleading? Double eyelid "surgery" is pretty damn safe and non-intrusive. I think it's comparable to getting braces in the US.
This is the problem with projecting Western values regarding "plastic surgery" on other cultures. The kinds of surgery that are available aren't the same!
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the beauty class is fucking idiotic and the focus on beauty is a horrible aspect of Korean culture
at least their focus seems to be on plastic surgery instead of being anorexic
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On August 27 2011 03:49 Philo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 03:32 The_LiNk wrote:
Hey since we're on the topic of physical beauty in Korea, what are "nice collarbones" for Koreans? I've never considered collarbones when evaluating someone's beauty/handsomeness. Can someone explain this? I read on reddit they call Hannah Choi the interviewer/translator for GSL "Marauder Woman" because of her wider than average shoulders. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U5wgM.jpg) SourceIt seems in Korea shit like that really matters. This doc has me really interested. I hope more Koreans will chime in here in the mean time about why this is such a popular attitude in Korea
Unfortunately, Korea is one of the most superficial and vain countries in the world. I'm Korean-American, and the first time I was in Korea, it was just so strange to see everyone try so hard to be well-groomed. The obsession with beauty is acknowledged publicly, and is generally more acceptable than in the states. While it's good to understand that physical appearance is more of a factor in success and happiness than we'd like to admit, it seems a bit pathological over there.
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Tbh, a lot of Korean women, and Asians in general, are naturally not pretty. Many Asians agree Asian people are on average uglier than Westerners. I think it's sad, but true. Asians make up for it by aging a lot better and generally being much healthier/slender than their Western counterparts.
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Unfortunately, Korea is one of the most superficial and vain countries in the world.
Is this really true though? Pretty much every teen magazine in the US is dedicated to fashion and beauty. I don't see any evidence that Korea is more vain than other Asian countries or the US or Europe.
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Very interesting subject. Im really looking forward to see the documentary finished. Also i do really respect the film's director by picking this subject and going for it in the way she is.
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On August 27 2011 04:23 domovoi wrote:Show nested quote +Unfortunately, Korea is one of the most superficial and vain countries in the world. Is this really true though? Pretty much every teen magazine in the US is dedicated to fashion and beauty. I don't see any evidence that Korea is more vain than other Asian countries or the US or Europe.
If you watch the clip you can see that plastic surgery is practically ingrained into the modern society, as it is not seen as something unusual and/or controversial.
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I always found it strange that plastic surgery is incredibly stigmatized while make up, designer fashion, hair dues etc. are generally excepted. It honestly not a big leap from make up to surgery. In the end you are simply making yourself beautiful.
Sweden is incredibly vain, yet it is without the surgery. I heard on the radio that bosses thought a women without make up were unprofessional and would not be hired. Double standards are always present. I would not be surprised if plastic surgery was mainstream in the western world in 20 years.
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Wow, even in my private high school people are not as studious or obsessed with looks, damn, I could go to Korea, be a good student and get some girl just by telling her her eyes aren't ugly lol. And play starcraft. yeah don't forget that.
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So basically, a college student did all this? This bit, even though it was only 20 minutes... there was just so much information, and there wasn't any point where I asked myself "why the hell is this in here?"
Christ, the documentary is incredibly depressing tbh. I do hope Starcraft gets mentioned as part of the fun haha.
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On August 27 2011 04:31 mapthesoul wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 04:23 domovoi wrote:Unfortunately, Korea is one of the most superficial and vain countries in the world. Is this really true though? Pretty much every teen magazine in the US is dedicated to fashion and beauty. I don't see any evidence that Korea is more vain than other Asian countries or the US or Europe. If you watch the clip you can see that plastic surgery is practically ingrained into the modern society, as it is not seen as something unusual and/or controversial.
Like I said earlier, we're talking about a very simple, non-intrusive and safe procedure. Braces are ingrained in modern US society, as is makeup and fashion. You'll see far more people in the US go to tanning salons. Hell, so many people in the US get their wisdom teeth removed for essentially aesthetic reasons, and that is far more intrusive than this. I don't see any particular reason to conclude that popularity of double-eyelid surgery means a country is more vain than countries that value other methods of beauty.
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I need to go to Korea with my white skin, double eyelids and nose that sticks out and get me some Korean poomtang.
Seriously though its pretty disturbing, but its similar to what you'll see in Western society, albeit more extreme. I prefer the honesty about people's looks, although I guess they could be less blunt. I find it really annoying when girls put themselves down so their friends will disagree with them.
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On August 27 2011 04:22 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Tbh, a lot of Korean women, and Asians in general, are naturally not pretty. Many Asians agree Asian people are on average uglier than Westerners. I think it's sad, but true. Asians make up for it by aging a lot better and generally being much healthier/slender than their Western counterparts.
That is pretty subjective.
I just think that is western-centric perspective; of course, it is also true many koreans (unfortunately) have this perspective.
This isn't the case for me and I would take an "average" Asian girl over a "hot" caucasian girl any day, given everything else is equal.
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On August 27 2011 04:35 domovoi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 04:31 mapthesoul wrote:On August 27 2011 04:23 domovoi wrote:Unfortunately, Korea is one of the most superficial and vain countries in the world. Is this really true though? Pretty much every teen magazine in the US is dedicated to fashion and beauty. I don't see any evidence that Korea is more vain than other Asian countries or the US or Europe. If you watch the clip you can see that plastic surgery is practically ingrained into the modern society, as it is not seen as something unusual and/or controversial. Like I said earlier, we're talking about a very simple, non-intrusive and safe procedure. Braces are ingrained in modern US society, as is makeup and fashion. You'll see far more people in the US go to tanning salons. Hell, so many people in the US get their wisdom teeth removed for essentially aesthetic reasons, and that is far more intrusive than this. I don't see any particular reason to conclude that popularity of double-eyelid surgery means a country is more vain than countries that value other methods of beauty.
Why are you only talking about eyelid surgery? The girl in video clearly mentioned getting hear nose done, not to mention that pretty much every TV-personality in Korea has had surgery (not only eyelids). I would also say fashion is more important in Korea than America, from what I've read and seen.
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Overall, I would give you that koreans are much more image-conscious and competitive (which tend to feed into each other) than a place like US, but claiming things like that "korea is the most vain country in the world" is going too far.
Plastic surgery is NOT uncontroversial, although it is becoming increasingly accepted. Beyond the somewhat ubiquitous eyelid surgery, the other operations are looked upon with more significance and may bring some controversy.
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They are not studying 16 hours a day, they are making videos and practicing dance sequences and socializing.
If anyone wants plastic surgery, I don't mind.
Whenever someone said "in America" in the video it cracked me up.
because IN AMERICA, you know, we believe in TRUE AMERICAN IDEALS
you know...we study 16 hours a day FOR AMERICA! USA USA USA!
Meanwhile in AMERICA our idols are overweight and unsightly?
Hey for AMERICA sonic boom...flash kick...For AMERICA, sonicccccccc hurricannn yeah! AMERICA
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