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RJGooner
United States2100 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: It's just the hardcore zealots that make the other (moderate) Christians look bad, pay them no heed. How can hard-core zealots vote for someone who has committed adultery multiple times. I'm honestly at a loss here. Or is it more that Romney's a Mormon? | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:11 RJGooner wrote: How can hard-core zealots vote for someone who has committed adultery multiple times. I'm honestly at a loss here. Or is it more that Romney's a Mormon? It's exactly that. (the mormon part) Personally I don't get it. Both groups believe in Jesus, god, the bible, etc. They both are anti-gay marriage, anti abortion, family values, etc. The only real difference I can think of is that some Mormons believe in having multiple wives...but for all his faults I haven't seen Romney do that. (which is really ironic because thats basically what Gingrich is being accused of) | ||
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RJGooner
United States2100 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote: It's exactly that. (the mormon part) Personally I don't get it. Both groups believe in Jesus, god, the bible, etc. They both are anti-gay marriage, anti abortion, family values, etc. The only real difference I can think of is that some Mormons believe in having multiple wives...but for all his faults I haven't seen Romney do that. (which is really ironic because thats basically what Gingrich is being accused of) Only the hard-core zealot Mormons have multiple wives as far as I know. Romney is not a member of that particular sect so it must be just the Mormon part. | ||
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:11 RJGooner wrote: How can hard-core zealots vote for someone who has committed adultery multiple times. I'm honestly at a loss here. Or is it more that Romney's a Mormon? Desperate times call for desperate measures, I think SC is slowly becoming a politically irrelevant state even for republicans and will not have any significant overall effect on Romney winning the nomination. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:17 RJGooner wrote: Only the hard-core zealot Mormons have multiple wives as far as I know. Romney is not a member of that particular sect so it must be just the Mormon part. Yeah,  Makes you wonder, if Romney was really really serious about becoming President, he should have just gone ahead and said he had changed from mormon to "protestant". (Obviously not right now, but sometime in the past) | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
But instead, I deleted most of that, and I'm just going to say thank you. I hope you guys keep this up. I hope you act the same way in the general-election debates as you do in these primary debates. I hope Newt Gingrich wins the primary, and teaches all the black people the difference between food stamps and paychecks. People love hearing that kind of stuff. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote: It's exactly that. (the mormon part) Personally I don't get it. Both groups believe in Jesus, god, the bible, etc. They both are anti-gay marriage, anti abortion, family values, etc. The only real difference I can think of is that some Mormons believe in having multiple wives...but for all his faults I haven't seen Romney do that. (which is really ironic because thats basically what Gingrich is being accused of) A lot of religious tension is just a matter of "us vs them". "If they identify as something that is not what I identify with, then that means that they do not believe that what I believe is a good set of beliefs". etc. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On January 22 2012 12:04 ryanAnger wrote: In order to win the Republican nomination, a candidate has to acquire at least 1144 delegates. For some perspective, the 3 states that have held their primaries thus far have had a total of 58. There is still a long way to go, and you shouldn't count Ron Paul out just yet. The two states with the highest number of delegates are Texas and California (~330ish delegates combined). Ron Paul is polling over 50% in each of those states, and if he can maintain those numbers, he's guaranteed about 250 delegates from that alone. Also, Ron Paul is currently the only person with a campaign organization in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a significant number of delegates and it's a winner takes all state, as well. The thing about Paul's campaign right now is this: He's playing it very strategically. We'll see if it pays off or not. Mitt Romney at 24% and Newt Gingrich at 23% lead the way with Rick Santorum at 15%, Ron Paul at 12%, and Buddy Roemer at 0% rounding out the field behind Perry. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/romney-dewhurst-lead-in-texas.html Most recent poll out of Texas. Mitt Romney 27% Undecided 22% Herman Cain 20% Newt Gingrich 14% Ron Paul 6% None of the above 3% Rick Perry 3% Michele Bachmann 2% Jon Huntsman 1% Rick Santorum 1% http://www.politico.com/2012-election/presidential-polls/california/california-gop-primary/ Most recent poll out of California. His numbers don't even add up to 50%. (Straw polls aren't counted because they are laughably inaccurate). | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:24 aksfjh wrote: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/romney-dewhurst-lead-in-texas.html Most recent poll out of Texas. http://www.politico.com/2012-election/presidential-polls/california/california-gop-primary/ Most recent poll out of California. His numbers don't even add up to 50%. (Straw polls aren't counted because they are laughably inaccurate). I like Ron Paul and a lot of his policies, but many of his supporters are crazy to the point of being outright delusional. Ron Paul isn't going to get the nomination, and that's not his goal anyway. As I have said before, Paul's goal is to build up a libertarian movement within the republican party, which is exactly what he is accomplishing. He's like going to get to speak at the republican national convention because of this success. That's a win for Paul. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On January 22 2012 15:42 xDaunt wrote: I like Ron Paul and a lot of his policies, but many of his supporters are crazy to the point of being outright delusional. Ron Paul isn't going to get the nomination, and that's not his goal anyway. As I have said before, Paul's goal is to build up a libertarian movement within the republican party, which is exactly what he is accomplishing. He's like going to get to speak at the republican national convention because of this success. That's a win for Paul. Im a ron paul supporter and i agree. A good lot of them are a big turn off for potential supporters. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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BobTheBuilder1377
Somalia335 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
Mitt Romney 27% Undecided 22% Herman Cain 20% Newt Gingrich 14% Ron Paul 6% None of the above 3% Rick Perry 3% Michele Bachmann 2% Jon Huntsman 1% Rick Santorum 1% i thought everyone but santorum, gingrich, romney and paul resigned their candidacy already? + i cant get over the fact that theres even 1 person voting for perry/bachmann On January 22 2012 20:45 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Ron Paul needs another moment like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsvGxKQPSNU so, everything ron paul says in there is "you didnt go to war so youre a bad politician". i dont get this one. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On January 22 2012 17:56 Mafe wrote: Do you need an absolute majority of delegates to be elected (as presidential candidate), or is a relative majority enough? Absolute. Delegates are pledged, not bound tho, so you can have a brokered convention with multiple ballots, where delegates are allowed to change their vote between ballots. And 1.1% of people voted for Cain/Colbert. That's not bad. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On August 16 2011 22:56 Candadar wrote: To keep it relevant too so I don't get banned, here are some politically relevant bullshit quotes from her: This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen said. Removing the minimum wage would put so many people in poverty it's ridiculous, there is a reason Canada doesn't have insane unemployment and that is BECAUSE of the higher minimum wage. It's way too low for most of the USA already. Get ready for US children sweatshops if she ever gets her way! | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 22 2012 20:59 s4life wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but, isn't Gingrich the text-book definition of scumbag? how can anyone get away with being two-time adulterer, not only that but he left both wives when they were sick, and still be in contention for the presidency -- a job that requires character more than anything -- you GOPers are nuts, but I guess Romney's tax problem may be more serious than I previously thought. His personal issues are his personal issues. What bothers me is that he built up much of his political career by attacking Clinton's adultery, while he was engaged in the exact same acts. He is just a completely immoral person, worse than even Nixon. | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
Look, maybe personal issues are personal issues, but maybe there's a correlation between being an asshole and being smart. In my last three years on high school there was this one girl you would steal her best friends' boyfriend, which is a dick move if you ask me. She was also the only one who failed to graduate. it didn't occur to me at the time, but maybe the two things do have something to do with each other. | ||
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