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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:40 Phenny wrote: I'm pretty right wing and that fucking disgusts me. Point is we aren't all cunts. That my friend just means that you are not right wing enough About the 1 minute of silence, I am in the car omw on holiday at the moment, and we are going to stop at 12:00 CET for 1 minute. And I advise everyone to do the same. | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080728 | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:33 NotSupporting wrote: Just went on one of the biggest Swedish forums and there are already threads celebrating the murderer as a hero for his nation and saying that all the deaths were justified. I actually hesitate ever since Friday to look up the "hottest threads" on there because I knew the ultra-nationalistic propaganda would start to pop up. It makes me sick seeing how much ground right winged thoughts are getting in our society and especially on the Internet. Read a few posts there, must say im disgusted. | ||
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Weson
Iceland1032 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:48 sidesprang wrote: Read a few posts there, must say im disgusted. Yeah, i saw that yesterday. What would you expect? That forum is full of trolls, racist idiots and psycos. | ||
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Ichobicho
Norway79 Posts
source http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080745 (norwegian) | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:54 Weson wrote: Yeah, i saw that yesterday. What would you expect? That forum is full of trolls, racist idiots and psycos. There only seems to be a few of them though two from what I can see, the ma jority of the people posting in that particular thread seems to be condemning it to no end. | ||
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Weson
Iceland1032 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 Integra wrote: There only seems to be a few of them though two from what I can see, the ma jority of the people posting in that particular thread seems to be condemning it to no end. It must have been cleaned up or something. When i checked yesterday it was full of racist pro-ABB comments. | ||
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ohlala
Germany232 Posts
If it was all about his despicable ideals, why would he care so much about portraying himself, even editing the background of those pictures out. He seems to be a highly conceited person who is longing for control and power over others, much like some sort of ruler. Also what's with alll the knights in his video especially just before his uniformed profile pictures? This is all too obviously a self-dramatization in which he tries to exalt himself to some kind of modern savior which leads me to believe that his ideals are a mere excuse to justifying his execution of power over others in his otherwise meaningless life. Copy pasting in his manifest and the sheer amount of pages written also is a hint that he isn't into this as much as he pretends to be, but rather tries to make his motives believable and himself to appear more intelligent and foresighted. Obviously the media is an important factor in this matter. They provided him with his ostensive ideals and will enable him to once more show the world how powerful and chivalrous he truly is. I also don't buy this planned for 9 years story. Quite possibly it was a chain of events and opportunities that led him to his drastic measures and then he subsequently made up this whole story to not have to admit to himself that he is just a sick fuck who likes to kill people. Seriously, if it was all for his manifest and he still had respected human life, why would he yell of excitement after each kill as some witness has reported? Also, while hearing some expert on german television talking about playing killergames like WoW being a possible indicator, the only real indicator here and in other cases is the strong affinity and easy access to guns. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:16 ohlala wrote: The more i read/hear/watch about this, the more i am under the impression that all this racism isn't the real motive behind his actions. If it was all about his despicable ideals, why would he care so much about portraying himself, even editing the background of those pictures out. He seems to be a highly conceited person who is longing for control and power over others, much like some sort of ruler. Also what's with alll the knights in his video especially just before his uniformed profile pictures? This is all too obviously a self-dramatization in which he tries to exalt himself to some kind of modern savior which leads me to believe that his ideals are a mere excuse to justifying his execution of power over others in his otherwise meaningless life. Copy pasting in his manifest and the sheer amount of pages written also is a hint that he isn't into this as much as he pretends to be, but rather tries to make his motives believable and himself to appear more intelligent and foresighted. Obviously the media is an important factor in this matter. They provided him with his ostensive ideals and will enable him to once more show the world how powerful and righteous he truly is. I also don't buy this planned for 9 years story. Quite possibly it was a chain of events and opportunities that led him to his drastic measures and then he subsequently made up this whole story to not have to admit to himself that he is just a sick fuck who likes to kill people. Seriously, if it was all for his manifest and he still had respected human life, why would he yell of excitement after each kill as some victims have reported? Again, the ideas aren't his, everything he has done is a just copypaste. his manifesto is nothing else than a re hash of what is already known as "common truth" among rightwing extremists. What he talks about and the way he did to give it exposure had been known for a long time. This guy has done nothing new. | ||
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Traeon
Austria366 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:16 ohlala wrote: The more i read/hear/watch about this, the more i am under the impression that all this racism isn't the real motive behind his actions. If it was all about his despicable ideals, why would he care so much about portraying himself, even editing the background of those pictures out. He seems to be a highly conceited person who is longing for control and power over others, much like some sort of ruler. Also what's with alll the knights in his video especially just before his uniformed profile pictures? This is all too obviously a self-dramatization in which he tries to exalt himself to some kind of modern savior which leads me to believe that his ideals are a mere excuse to justifying his execution of power over others in his otherwise meaningless life. Copy pasting in his manifest and the sheer amount of pages written also is a hint that he isn't into this as much as he pretends to be, but rather tries to make his motives believable and himself to appear more intelligent and foresighted. Obviously the media is an important factor in this matter. They provided him with his ostensive ideals and will enable him to once more show the world how powerful and righteous he truly is. I also don't buy this planned for 9 years story. Quite possibly it was a chain of events and opportunities that led him to his drastic measures and then he subsequently made up this whole story to not have to admit to himself that he is just a sick fuck who likes to kill people. Seriously, if it was all for his manifest and he still had respected human life, why would he yell of excitement after each kill as some victims have reported? What I think is that he needed to blame someone else for his deep emotional distress, probably to be able to live with it. He did this by constructing a self image and system of justifications where this murderous energy is seen as "necessary" and "heroic", taking inspiration from the right wing extremism. He would rather murder people than admit to himself that he is seriously disturbed and deflate his inflated sense of self. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
They? It's the largest forum in scandinavia, with all subjects allowed. Of course there is some that uses that to discuss. Compared to the number of members they are a very small click, but they are very active. The forums they are active in is some of the smallest ones on the website. | ||
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
21 years in Jail is just LOL. | ||
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untilMay
Korea (South)190 Posts
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phanto
Sweden708 Posts
He could have been an extremist of any political camp, or religious for that matter. | ||
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BearDK
Denmark101 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:33 zYwi3c wrote: I just want to say, that they should execute this guy ;/ 21 years in Jail is just LOL. He gets 21, then another 21 and so forth and so on, as far as I know. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:33 zYwi3c wrote: I just want to say, that they should execute this guy ;/ 21 years in Jail is just LOL. If we kill him then we are not better than him. He will be in jail for life, read the fucking OP. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
If he was really as smart or articulate as people give him credit for being (or he himself gives himself credit for), then he wouldn't need such a disgusting public spectacle. Not only is this guy sick in the head, he's also a complete idiot. This is about 1000 times more idiotic than going in front of the Oslo state buildings and yelling "guys, LISTEN TO ME! I have an idea!!!" Sorry to all of the families, it is a true tragedy of the imperfections of human pride.. However, Norway's response has been a triumph of human spirit. I'm not looking forward to today's court case, I predict more idiocy coming from his mouth. I seriously doubt he'll even be able to present his "reasons" without a big smile on his face from his sick pride in his actions. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
source Hopefully he will not be allowed to were his uniform also. | ||
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:46 Arnstein wrote: If we kill him then we are not better than him. He will be in jail for life, read the fucking OP. ah ok. On TV in Poland, some ppl said, that he will be there only for 21 years, and was kinda angry of that statement :[ | ||
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Whalecore
Norway1110 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:33 zYwi3c wrote: I just want to say, that they should execute this guy ;/ 21 years in Jail is just LOL. Then he wins. The best way to avenge this horrible event is to give him a standard trial. It's expected that he will first get 21 years, but with forvaring, which means he will be kept in prison for as long as he is considered a threat to society. | ||
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