[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 108

On July 25 2011 12:54 r.Evo wrote:


What the fuck. This needs more attention. :X

On July 25 2011 13:25 Shikyo wrote:
The Finnish news says that the suspect wants to show up into the court wearing his uniform, but that they don't know what kind of a uniform he'd be wearing.

I really wonder, did the press read the manifest?

"The three primary tasks expected from your defence attorney


1. Willingness to facilitate you logistically
The candidate must be willing to order the components that make out the Justiciar Knight uniform for you and he/she must then compensate a tailor to assemble it. This task will take him several hours so he should be prepared to invest that time. He must understand that wearing our uniform during trial is an essential aspect of furthering our cause and he must be willing to facilitate you."

I'm wondering if they'll make it public. That'd be exactly what he wants, obviously. I'm not sure if the court would like to have it closed as it's such a significant crime. There's speculation about the safety of the suspect as if the trial is public the people might want to attack the suspect and such.

I'm actually really curious about today. Will he appear in an uniform like that and what will he say? Will he seriously hold a propaganda speech about his ideals and attempt to convince everyone that what he's doing is for the greater good?

Does anyone know at what time the trial is scheduled to be?

On July 25 2011 13:34 Gnax wrote:


I definitely think he will hold a propaganda speech, what else would he do? he already confessed to everything and according to his manifesto, the trial is a big part of his plan to send out his message.

I think I read that the trial will be today.

On July 25 2011 10:07 Ksi wrote:


You really have no idea about the history of ethnic enclaves in the United States do you? Little Italy? Jewish neighborhoods in New York? Chinatown? Irish neighborhoods...etc. Their kids end up assimilating. It doesn't happen in a single generation. Immigrant enclaves have existed in this country since the very beginning, they all eventually just end up getting absorbed into the country as a whole and turned into semi tourist destinations as the offspring of the older generations move out and disperse and assimilate. Hell, it's happening right now in practically every Chinatown where the average resident's age is over 60.

The concerns this guy had are very much contingent upon how quickly the Muslim populations in Europe secularize. With education and secularization almost always comes lower birthrates. Though you could segue this into a discussion on how quickly they are secularizing. Hopefully some of our European friends can enlighten us on this.

On July 25 2011 12:10 Romantic wrote:


Have you ever seen demographic maps of US cities? Pretty much puts a fork in the idea people don't voluntarily segregate themselves.

What tipped the scales for you? What particular things pushed you to plan the attack?

For me personally it was our government's involvement (engagement) with/in the attack on Serbia (NATO bombing in 1999) several years ago. It was completely unacceptable the way the U.S. and Western European regimes bombed our Serbian brothers. There have been many other cases that have strengthened my resolve. Among them, my government's cowardly handling of the Muhammed cartoons, and their decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to an Islamic terrorist (Arafat). There have been dozens of other questions. My government and our media capitulated to Islam years ago, after the Rushdie incident. Since then it has snowballed. Thousands of Muslims stream in each year through the asylum, institutions, or family connections in Norway.

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What motivates you? How have you managed to stay focused and motivated for more than 8 years? Is it bitterness and hatred against the so-called "cultural Marxist/the multiculturalism wonderful elites," or maybe towards Islam?

No, not at all. If they (the cultural Marxists) against all odds, gave up on multiculturalism tomorrow, if they stopped all Muslim immigration and started the deportation of all Muslims, I would forgive them for their past crimes. If they refuse to surrender until 2020, there will be no turning back. We will eventually wipe out every single one of them. I do not hate Muslims at all. I acknowledge that there are magnificent Muslim individuals in Europe. In fact, I have had several Muslim friends over the years, some who I still respect. This does not mean that I will accept an Islamic presence in Europe. Muslim individuals who are not assimilated 100% by 2020, will be deported as soon as we manage to seize power. Although I admit that I am sick of the current development, I would say I'm driven by my love for Europe, European culture and Europeans. This does not mean I'm against diversity. But valuing diversity does not mean you support the genocide of your own culture and people.

What tipped the scales for you? What particular things pushed you to plan the attack?

For me personally it was our government's involvement (engagement) with/in the attack on Serbia (NATO bombing in 1999) several years ago. It was completely unacceptable the way the U.S. and Western European regimes bombed our Serbian brothers. There have been many other cases that have strengthened my resolve. Among them, my government's cowardly handling of the Muhammed cartoons, and their decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to an Islamic terrorist (Arafat). There have been dozens of other questions. My government and our media capitulated to Islam years ago, after the Rushdie incident. Since then it has snowballed. Thousands of Muslims stream in each year through the asylum, institutions, or family connections in Norway.

...

What motivates you? How have you managed to stay focused and motivated for more than 8 years? Is it bitterness and hatred against the so-called "cultural Marxist/the multiculturalism wonderful elites," or maybe towards Islam?

No, not at all. If they (the cultural Marxists) against all odds, gave up on multiculturalism tomorrow, if they stopped all Muslim immigration and started the deportation of all Muslims, I would forgive them for their past crimes. If they refuse to surrender until 2020, there will be no turning back. We will eventually wipe out every single one of them. I do not hate Muslims at all. I acknowledge that there are magnificent Muslim individuals in Europe. In fact, I have had several Muslim friends over the years, some who I still respect. This does not mean that I will accept an Islamic presence in Europe. Muslim individuals who are not assimilated 100% by 2020, will be deported as soon as we manage to seize power. Although I admit that I am sick of the current development, I would say I'm driven by my love for Europe, European culture and Europeans. This does not mean I'm against diversity. But valuing diversity does not mean you support the genocide of your own culture and people.

On July 25 2011 14:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I'm not particularly religious, but I hope that there is a hell so that this fucker can burn in it.

Anders Behring Breivik - Fundamentalist Christian?
In the wake of the bomb in Oslo, and following massacre at the Labour Party youth camp at Utøya, I've noticed a very peculiar thing about the coverage of the event in American media. Many of them seem to be perpetuating the idea that the terrorist, Anders Behring Breivik is a fundamentalist Christian.

While I suspect that this misinformation is being perpetuated on purpose by a small group of secularist journalists who intend to exploit this tragedy to spread their agenda of hatred against Christians, I still feel obliged to make one clarification to my American friends, and help them see this through Norwegian eyes.

Breivik has authored (largely by copying and pasting) a 1500 page manifesto, where he uses some rhetoric around preserving our christian culture and heritage. European journalists, even the most left-leaning of them, understand what this means. We are immersed in the ideas that our nations are "Christian nations", because we have a state church. They understand that the Christianity he talks about is the same Christianity they practice themselves when they take their children before the priest to get sprinkled, and when the go to Church on Christmas eve to get into the proper Christmas mood. It's what Norwegians do. They don't mean anything about it, and the moment they are out of those church doors they proceed to go about their secular lives as usual. This Christianity does not spring from a sincerely held faith in Christ. It's just a wholesome tradition, that is closely tied to our national identity. And who knows, maybe there even is a God out there who will look on us favorably for jumping through these hoops, right?

This type of nationalistic Christianity lends itself perfectly to this type of abuse. Increasing numbers of Arab immigrants are spreading Islamic culture, so what is the remedy? We need to fight for our Christian cultural heritage!

And so it was that the name of Christ was dragged into this atrocity. Breivik may see himself as a Christian. It's a delusion he has in common with most of the Norwegian population. It seems he might even at occasions have prayed. Most people seem to do that whenever they're in a pinch, even if they don't really believe anyone is listening.

But I can say one thing for certain. Breivik does not have anything in common with the people who are generally labeled fundamentalist Christians. These are people who let the teachings of Christ have genuine influence in their lives. They love their enemies, bless those who persecute them, and the sword with witch they spread their message is the Word of God. And they all share my disbelief and disgust with the atrocities that have been committed.

Please feel free to spread this around as a counterweight to the false information that is being spread.