EPT"The Awful German Language" - Page 5
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ulti
Germany136 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On March 03 2005 23:44 baal wrote: All romance languages are hard, the easiest one is probably portuegese & spanish, French & german are a lil-bit (not much) harder. English is very versatile, easy to learn and i like how it sounds, but its incomplete thats why diplomacy should be spoken in other more complex languages. Ehehe! Roman language doesnt include germanic languages such as dutch, german and english. I find it very funny that english speaking people find German hard, they probably never tried to learn it. For a dutch person the easiest language to learn would be German followed by English. For a German it is dutch followed by english and for english it is supposed to be easy to learn german. Because the grammar is the same and many words look a like. The only difference with english is that it had a lot of influence from the french language. And French is really not even close to german or dutch  I only had 1 year of German grammar in school so thats why my grammar is lacking, but I seem to be able to conversate with pretty much any german. They always understand me as I do them. Ofcourse my German is weird, simple and hilarious from time to time, but Im able to communicate  Fucked up languages are finnish, polish, zulu and that kind of shit;) | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
English is a VERY simpel language to learn. Very easy grammar (not too many or difficult inconsistancies), and you talk pretty much the same way you write. Also english is stems from both ancient german and roman languages. French is a difficult language to learn because grammar is quite complex as well, though not as hard as german, but since it's harder to get intonation right it's more difficult on a whole. This people have confirmed to me when studying both german and french. Swedish is also a VERY easy language to learn. The same here, almost as easy grammar English. However spoken swedish can differ quite a bit from written swedish. Also another very interesting thing about swedish is that we use intonation to alter the meaning of sentences and intent much more than most other languages, unlike for instance french, which is very linear in this sense. You can easily learn swedish and be understood and talk fairly well, but as a foreigner you will never be able to pass for a swede just because of accent (accents vary widely in different regions in sweden) and how to abuse swedish grammer and intone words and sentences like the natives do ^^. Finnish must be mentioned in a language thread as well since it's one of the more odd languages on the planet. Only spoken in Finland and Estonia has a similar language, but apart from those two, no other language comes close really. They do something as unusual as to intone consonants! Long and short consonants where usually you only have long and short vowels. Also most of grammar such as prepositions or objects etc adds as pre-/suffixes to the basic word, thus words usually look very long. Also finnish sounds very funny :D, but did you know it was considered one of the most beautiful languages of the world? Also did you know that swedish is refered to as a "musical" language due to the great variety of intonation in sentences... | ||
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
 how can they pronounce that loooong words it's amazing | ||
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
On March 04 2005 05:38 ulti wrote: german is so beautiful if used correctly. only because you dont understand it(or germans who arent able to use it on a higher level) , you cant judge the language. german is the language of peots and thinkers. (goethe, schiller, kant, nietzsche, einstein... ) LOL There are peots and thinkers everywhere | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17377 Posts
Latin is definitely #2 on my list | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
i hope you tend to agree that there are more famous german writers than i many other countries. Like, name some spanish poets known throughout the world. There aren't many things from the past that Germans can be proud of, but its poets, philosophists and scientists are definately one of them. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On March 04 2005 06:05 JudasT wrote: I think portuguese, spanish, french and italian are quite similar, and they are easy to learn if you talk one on these natively. German sounds really difficult to learn how can they pronounce that loooong words it's amazing Uhm... It COULD be beacause they all stem from the same language... maaaybeee? If you think german words are long, take a look at finish dude. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
Weib =/= wife, if you say weib to a girl it's more like an offense so the "it" makes sense I have to agree that it's really nonsense that every noun has a sex | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
still a funny text and I have to agree german really is veeeery hard to learn | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On March 04 2005 06:20 Mandalor wrote: well some of this text is just absurd Weib =/= wife, if you say weib to a girl it's more like an offense so the "it" makes sense I have to agree that it's really nonsense that every noun has a sex Well, aren't there FOUR sexes in german for nouns, like male, female, neutral and one more which I don't know the name of in english. That's such a relief with english and why it's so easy to learn. Only one sex for all nouns, and the verbs don't differ because of pronoms (what do you call that in english? I, you, he, she, it, you, we, they) French is a killer in this sense since all verbs must be altered properly due to whom it concerns. | ||
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
hihi | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On March 04 2005 06:25 Luhh wrote: Well, aren't there FOUR sexes in german for nouns, like male, female, neutral and one more which I don't know the name of in english. That's such a relief with english and why it's so easy to learn. Only one sex for all nouns, and the verbs don't differ because of pronoms (what do you call that in english? I, you, he, she, it, you, we, they) French is a killer in this sense since all verbs must be altered properly due to whom it concerns. uhm no, there's only he,she and it. Either way, of course it may sound funny that girl has a neutral article if in your language there's a rule that only objects have neutral articles. From a german's point of view you could say French is stupid because girl and cow are both female, isn't that disrespectful for the girl to be comnpared with a cow? same argument and just as dumb as the one given by Twain. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
I've not studied german yet, but I'd be very surprised if it would be more than 3 | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On March 04 2005 06:22 {ToT}Strafe wrote: for germanic linguists its harder to learn romanic and vice virsa duh. Actually an ITALIAN woman told me she thought learning french was harder than german. She had moved to switzerland and spoke both languages. So... not quite true. French is plain hard due to the fact it's so hard to pronounce and use correct grammar to avoid misunderstanding, since the meaning can change quite dramatically otherwise. I don't think that is the case in german, or at least to the same extent. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On March 04 2005 06:30 Mandalor wrote: 4 sexes? I've not studied german yet, but I'd be very surprised if it would be more than 3 Okay, I may have heard wrong, though I thought there were 2 neutrals, I may have confused this with some other language or misunderstood once upon a time.  | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On March 04 2005 06:42 {ToT}Strafe wrote: theres always an exception My point is this: The major hurdly to learning a language is NOT grammar, it's in vocals, and in that sense french is very hard. Also mastering a language to the point of natives is another matter. I believe it's actually easier to master french and german but much more difficult to master swedish. Though in the beginning stages swedish is a lot easier and you don't have to live in or study swedish that long to speak decently, and be understood by all. You'll probably sound odd for the remains of your life though ^^. | ||
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Red_Dragon
Croatia2862 Posts
On March 02 2005 20:52 ieatkids5 wrote: IMO English is hard. So much grammar, and it's difficult to learn how to write very well. The people that are traying to learn Croatian say that it is very difficult language. It has much more grammar then English or German. In Croatian you have 11 tenses 1. infinitiv 2. prezent 3. Imperfekt 4. Aorist 5. Perfekt 6. Pluskvamperfekt 7. Futur I 8. Futur II 9. Imperativ 10. Kondicional 11. Optativ.+ you can put there glagolski prilog sadasnji, glagolski prilog prosli, glagolski pridjev radni and glagolski pridjev trpni. In German you have I do not know how you say it in English cases maybe?. You have Nominativ. Genitiv. Dativ. Akkusativ, and you can decline nouns, pronoun or adjective through that. In Croatian you have 1. Nominativ 2. Genitiv 3. Dativ 4. Akuzativ 5. Vokativ 6. Lokativ 7. Instrumental. This is only one part of Croatian grammar. There is much more. The good thing in Croatian is that how you speak is the way you write. But yes there are few exceptions. I have been learning Greman for 8 years. And IMO it is not that hard language, I think Croatian is much harder. | ||
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