EPT"The Awful German Language" - Page 3
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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8882
2718 Posts
On March 02 2005 20:52 ieatkids5 wrote: IMO English is hard. So much grammar, and it's difficult to learn how to write very well. Try German. The grammar will be even harder. In English each verb has 3 forms e.g. do/did/done. In German theoretically each has 3forms too. But you inflect the verbs according to the person (I do, you do, he doES, we do, you do, they do but ich mache, du machst, er macht, wir machen, ihr macht, sie/Sie machen -the forms are often hard to make). And there are verbs which have other ways of inflection. And after you manage to learn at least some of the exceptions and use them in past form, you notice that they have reported speech. And guess what - the inflection there is supersimple and there are only(?) 3 exceptions. It is easy to use and logical. But they use the harder way all the time and the simple way only in reported speech. Actually every verb you know has 4(5) forms you should know (or maybe more, I havent been learning german for long): present, past, past "perfect"(dunno how to call it), present form of the 3rd person (soemthing like "He doES" -but there are lots of exceptions), and konjunktiv form (the reported speech). In english you just say "You attack sth" and say "Attack sth" when you give an order. In german you- guess what? MAKE ANOTHER form of the verb (exceptions gogog) - 3 different forms (you make, you make (ahahahah, you as a group of people), you make (you make it sir/sirs)) when you learn the forms, you think it's ok and cool but then you realise that certain words have 2 different past "perfect" forms I think that for example geschaffen =(God) 'has' created and geschafft (dunno what it meant), actually I have a "short" list somewhere with 500 basic verbs and yea numbers, guess 70= siebzig. 79=neunundziebzieg yea, they say the last part first. kinda tricky Sex/gender (?) of words exists in Polish too. Of course it is totally uncompatibile (well in Polish there are some rules), the fact that german language arent adressed in femine form doesnt have anything to do with the language  Germans simplified their language. One of the letters has become NEARLY unused. Did you notice the "nearly"? Of course it is used every time you dont use it. The words are beautiful and short, some examples: die Volkswirtschaftslehre, der Unternehmenszusammenschluss, die Wechselkursschwankung, das Zweibelturmchen (lol) Ein Millionzweihundertneunzigtausendsechshundertsiebenundneunzig (or maybe it is written Ein Million Zweihundertneunzigtausendsechshundertsiebenundneunzig?) Yes, they cant write Wechsel Kurs Schwankung, but need to make one word. Actually words are important. You write "i" with small letter, but der Kugelschreiber (pen) is in capital. It's more important than you or me Germans have different accents. Someone from northern part wont understand someone from south (bayerish). It's cool to know that they dont understand themselves too  No tv? o_OIt looked quite ridiculous when the guy who was supposed to teach us, couldnt understand someone from his own country :o You change the nouns too (actually you dont change the nouns, like in slav languages) but the arcticles. There are only 4cases. 1would be enough, but there was a promotion and they have 4 (hehe in Poland we have 6+1unused). So you say "This is the car". But in the sentence "I see the car" the word "the car" is in another case and the article is changed (dunno how to show it in english, maybe "whom does this car belong to", you have whom instead of who). Sounds simple - is not. and the biggest pain - "rektion" (actually it's a pain in the ass when learning english too) you invite "zu" not "fur" every verb has it's own collocation (you look at(?), wait for etc), which usually doesnt make any sense. So gogo learn by heart. The very short list with really needed words is only 5page long and contains ~500words... I wish my teacher died, so they would change her (actually the thing you laughed at(why do you laugh at, and not laugh on btw?) is a bit useful, because you would know that the teacher was a female without the 2nd sentence), or dunno won at the lottery, because she is awful and thinks that learning 50words per day is cool (and possible?). Most of the things which are found in German are in Polish too (more cases, more exceptions, more forms of words), but at least the collocations make sense... and women arent neutral However everytime someone who was born in Usa says that English is hard to learn, I start to think that he is a total moron. The good thing in German, is the fact that you dont have THAT many problems with writting things. In English spelling doesnt make any sense, in German you write words as you hear them (unless they have a lot of umlauts...) I dont like the fact that every voice in German sounds the same. watch a movie, they always speak the same way, no matter if they sceam, argue, chat or joke -- Never heard a German whose voice was "alive" like dunno Duke Nukem (coulnt find an example) Und jetzt gehe ich meine Betriebswirtschaftlehre studieren.. | ||
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MannerKiss
United States2398 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I think the coolest sounding language is Japanese. Although I'm quite happy being able to speak Korean and English fluently. I'm also studying Latin [ In my 2nd year and it's pretty hard ] I think the worst sounding language is...well... nevermind... | ||
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
Well, kinda. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17377 Posts
Note2: Many english-languaged ppl doesn't know this too :D | ||
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On March 03 2005 17:22 Sky101 wrote: I love the sound of Mandarin language. Well, kinda. I hate it. Cantonese sounds so much better. | ||
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Prawned
United Kingdom794 Posts
I once heard a camp german talk on a microphone on counter-strike. It gave me a right old giggle. I also heard a couple of french guys. Their accents (sort of deep) were seriously freaking me out. As for my favourite language. ENGLISH. Only because it's the only one I can speak fluently. Still gives me problems in the grammar department though (as some of you grammar freaks can probably tell from this post). | ||
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On March 03 2005 19:17 ieatkids5 wrote: I hate it. Cantonese sounds so much better. Oh man that sure as hell the first time i heard somebody say that! I heard germany is way harder than french I FUCKING HATE FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ><!!!!!!! I had to learn it for 1 year cause I live in Canada i got 60 and passed im fucking proud. | ||
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ihatett
United States2289 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On March 03 2005 20:01 Slaughter)BiO wrote: PROPER english is hard to learn. Most people completely tear apart the language when they speak. By proper English, do you mean like it is written in those classic books like Tale of Two Cities or Dr.Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On March 03 2005 17:22 Manit0u wrote: Note: Shouldn't it be juweish? I hope you know that the proper spelling of the word is "Juwes" not "Jews"? Note2: Many english-languaged ppl doesn't know this too :D Wtf? It's Hebrew. And I have never heard of anything similar to the likes of "Juwes" And the ENGLISH spelling is " Jew " So I guess it's you who is poorly " English languaged " and don't know. | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On March 03 2005 14:58 MoltkeWarding wrote: Wo ist das schone Englische Madchen? Es ist zu der Oper gegangen <-----  thats wrong ffs Wo ist das schöne englische Mädchen? Es ist in die Oper gegangen. ! | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On March 03 2005 23:10 jacen wrote: thats wrong ffs Wo ist das schöne englische Mädchen? Es ist in die Oper gegangen. ! This is why German sucks. And unignore me from msn -_- | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
English is very versatile, easy to learn and i like how it sounds, but its incomplete thats why diplomacy should be spoken in other more complex languages. | ||
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ygor
Slovakia246 Posts
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On March 03 2005 23:12 MoltkeWarding wrote:And unignore me from msn -_- y should i? | ||
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