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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
October 23 2017 10:59 GMT
#13501
In the United States, it's often times a personal choice as to whether or not you're called professor. In fact, the term professor is often used to reference anyone of any position teaching at the university level, whether they're an adjunct professor, lecturer, instructor, assistant professor, associate professor, full professor, or professor emeritus. Part-time, full-time, tenured track or not, esteemed or otherwise, a lot of times they're called professors, especially by their students. There is a lot of subjectivity and personal preference in that respect.

To be called doctor, however, you must have a doctorate, as that's a title based off your formal degree.

Being in that space, I know of plenty of people who are professors who also have their doctorates, and their preferences vary widely, from preferring the title Professor in class, to preferring the title Doctor, to preferring being called by their first names or simply Mr./ Ms./ Mrs..
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18343 Posts
October 23 2017 17:10 GMT
#13502
I've decided you should all address me as Dr. Acrofales.

No. Really. I have the PhD, but never ever use the title except for super formal occasions. It's just really weird to expect people to address me as Dr. Same goes for professor. Although students call me professor that's just the general spanish term for teacher. Even then, I would be fine with them using my first name in a classroom setting too. But if I were a full professor I'd only use the title in a very formal setting. And technically, I don't think Prof. supercedes Dr. so you could call yourself Prof. Dr. (at least in Europe, title rules do change by country). Unless you're a 1 in a million professor who didn't ever do a PhD.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18865 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 17:36:44
October 23 2017 17:36 GMT
#13503
Technically one can call a JD holder a doctor, but that's silly. Most law school profs don't have a PHD and are still called professor though.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 23 2017 17:38 GMT
#13504
In Brazil, especially in the rural areas, teaching positions that encompass a professorship are given out to PhD candidates/researchers doing their PhD. At least when I was there I talked to some of them and boy were they nice.
passive quaranstream fan
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 23 2017 20:31 GMT
#13505
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9317 Posts
October 23 2017 21:14 GMT
#13506
Try going through the post history of those screen names. Should be obvious if you're right
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 24 2017 14:41 GMT
#13507
I've always addressed my professors as "Professor;" it was pretty safe at least at my school (small elite school, no non-Professors teaching classes). When referring more broadly to college-level teachers though, I use the term "instructor" to be safe (TAs, Adjuncts, etc.)
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 24 2017 14:45 GMT
#13508
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
October 24 2017 15:21 GMT
#13509
On October 24 2017 23:45 JimmiC wrote:
I took business and most Prof's you just called them by their names at their request. So times you would see their card or an email later and see they were a doctor.

I also had an Uncle who was a professor and had his doctorate. When I was 6 he came over when I was sick and I asked him to help and he said that's not what he does and I said "Oh your one of those useless doctors" I guess he laughed but my mom was non too pleased with me.


If I had a nickel for every time that PhDs or even veterinarians were called "not real doctors", I would be making as much money as a real doctor.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 24 2017 16:20 GMT
#13510
Funnily enough real doctors oftentimes have really shitty dissertations because they're expected to hold a doctor's degree by virtue of their job.
Thus a doctorate in a different field is much harder to get than a medical doctor.
passive quaranstream fan
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 16:42:20
October 24 2017 16:41 GMT
#13511
On October 25 2017 01:20 Artisreal wrote:
Funnily enough real doctors oftentimes have really shitty dissertations because they're expected to hold a doctor's degree by virtue of their job.
Thus a doctorate in a different field is much harder to get than a medical doctor.


I respectfully disagree.

The difficulty in obtaining a PhD is primarily in getting funding to do it rather than the quality of the actual project.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18865 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 16:52:47
October 24 2017 16:43 GMT
#13512
Yeah, this is going to be an area where generalization is nigh impossible and highly tied to circumstance. There are going to be folks doing cheeseball PHDs built on third-party data while some other dude is literally forced to create a new coding scheme so that he can turn his data into something consumable. From what I can tell, difficulty among obtaining PHDs and doctorates runs the gamut.
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 24 2017 17:06 GMT
#13513
On October 25 2017 01:43 farvacola wrote:
Yeah, this is going to be an area where generalization is nigh impossible and highly tied to circumstance. There are going to be folks doing cheeseball PHDs built on third-party data while some other dude is literally forced to create a new coding scheme so that he can turn his data into something consumable. From what I can tell, difficulty among obtaining PHDs and doctorates runs the gamut.


Not unlike literally any other degree.

It's a really silly way of certifying people for much of anything, honestly.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 24 2017 17:20 GMT
#13514
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
October 24 2017 17:33 GMT
#13515
On October 25 2017 02:20 JimmiC wrote:
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On October 25 2017 00:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 24 2017 23:45 JimmiC wrote:
I took business and most Prof's you just called them by their names at their request. So times you would see their card or an email later and see they were a doctor.

I also had an Uncle who was a professor and had his doctorate. When I was 6 he came over when I was sick and I asked him to help and he said that's not what he does and I said "Oh your one of those useless doctors" I guess he laughed but my mom was non too pleased with me.


If I had a nickel for every time that PhDs or even veterinarians were called "not real doctors", I would be making as much money as a real doctor.

Far less offensive from a 6 year old. But i get your point. It would have been smart if they had called them something different from the start.

My favorite doctor quote "its doctor evil i didnt go to 7 years of evil medical school to be called mr"


Haha definitely And yeah, a child not understanding a doctorate is no big deal, especially compared to the adults who don't understand it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
October 24 2017 18:21 GMT
#13516
is there a reason judgement can be spelled either judgement or judgment? It makes my brain hurt thinking about this
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11907 Posts
October 24 2017 18:56 GMT
#13517
Probably british vs american?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
October 24 2017 19:20 GMT
#13518
A lot of slight spelling variations come from British vs. American English or other general dialectical preferences.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 24 2017 20:10 GMT
#13519
On October 25 2017 01:41 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 01:20 Artisreal wrote:
Funnily enough real doctors oftentimes have really shitty dissertations because they're expected to hold a doctor's degree by virtue of their job.
Thus a doctorate in a different field is much harder to get than a medical doctor.


I respectfully disagree.

The difficulty in obtaining a PhD is primarily in getting funding to do it rather than the quality of the actual project.

Apologies, I was speaking too broadly.
This applies to all my German doctor friends and what they tell me of their colleagues.
And those amount to 4 and I suspect them to have a pretty firm grasp on how things work on Germany
passive quaranstream fan
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 20:58:26
October 24 2017 20:45 GMT
#13520
What are you doing? Who ever apologises in this thread? *mock outrage*
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