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In the United States, it's often times a personal choice as to whether or not you're called professor. In fact, the term professor is often used to reference anyone of any position teaching at the university level, whether they're an adjunct professor, lecturer, instructor, assistant professor, associate professor, full professor, or professor emeritus. Part-time, full-time, tenured track or not, esteemed or otherwise, a lot of times they're called professors, especially by their students. There is a lot of subjectivity and personal preference in that respect.
To be called doctor, however, you must have a doctorate, as that's a title based off your formal degree.
Being in that space, I know of plenty of people who are professors who also have their doctorates, and their preferences vary widely, from preferring the title Professor in class, to preferring the title Doctor, to preferring being called by their first names or simply Mr./ Ms./ Mrs..
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I've decided you should all address me as Dr. Acrofales.
No. Really. I have the PhD, but never ever use the title except for super formal occasions. It's just really weird to expect people to address me as Dr. Same goes for professor. Although students call me professor that's just the general spanish term for teacher. Even then, I would be fine with them using my first name in a classroom setting too. But if I were a full professor I'd only use the title in a very formal setting. And technically, I don't think Prof. supercedes Dr. so you could call yourself Prof. Dr. (at least in Europe, title rules do change by country). Unless you're a 1 in a million professor who didn't ever do a PhD.
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Technically one can call a JD holder a doctor, but that's silly. Most law school profs don't have a PHD and are still called professor though.
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In Brazil, especially in the rural areas, teaching positions that encompass a professorship are given out to PhD candidates/researchers doing their PhD. At least when I was there I talked to some of them and boy were they nice.
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Try going through the post history of those screen names. Should be obvious if you're right
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I've always addressed my professors as "Professor;" it was pretty safe at least at my school (small elite school, no non-Professors teaching classes). When referring more broadly to college-level teachers though, I use the term "instructor" to be safe (TAs, Adjuncts, etc.)
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On October 24 2017 23:45 JimmiC wrote: I took business and most Prof's you just called them by their names at their request. So times you would see their card or an email later and see they were a doctor.
I also had an Uncle who was a professor and had his doctorate. When I was 6 he came over when I was sick and I asked him to help and he said that's not what he does and I said "Oh your one of those useless doctors" I guess he laughed but my mom was non too pleased with me.
If I had a nickel for every time that PhDs or even veterinarians were called "not real doctors", I would be making as much money as a real doctor.
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Funnily enough real doctors oftentimes have really shitty dissertations because they're expected to hold a doctor's degree by virtue of their job. Thus a doctorate in a different field is much harder to get than a medical doctor.
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On October 25 2017 01:20 Artisreal wrote: Funnily enough real doctors oftentimes have really shitty dissertations because they're expected to hold a doctor's degree by virtue of their job. Thus a doctorate in a different field is much harder to get than a medical doctor.
I respectfully disagree.
The difficulty in obtaining a PhD is primarily in getting funding to do it rather than the quality of the actual project.
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Yeah, this is going to be an area where generalization is nigh impossible and highly tied to circumstance. There are going to be folks doing cheeseball PHDs built on third-party data while some other dude is literally forced to create a new coding scheme so that he can turn his data into something consumable. From what I can tell, difficulty among obtaining PHDs and doctorates runs the gamut.
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On October 25 2017 01:43 farvacola wrote: Yeah, this is going to be an area where generalization is nigh impossible and highly tied to circumstance. There are going to be folks doing cheeseball PHDs built on third-party data while some other dude is literally forced to create a new coding scheme so that he can turn his data into something consumable. From what I can tell, difficulty among obtaining PHDs and doctorates runs the gamut.
Not unlike literally any other degree.
It's a really silly way of certifying people for much of anything, honestly.
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On October 25 2017 02:20 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 00:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 24 2017 23:45 JimmiC wrote: I took business and most Prof's you just called them by their names at their request. So times you would see their card or an email later and see they were a doctor.
I also had an Uncle who was a professor and had his doctorate. When I was 6 he came over when I was sick and I asked him to help and he said that's not what he does and I said "Oh your one of those useless doctors" I guess he laughed but my mom was non too pleased with me. If I had a nickel for every time that PhDs or even veterinarians were called "not real doctors", I would be making as much money as a real doctor. Far less offensive from a 6 year old. But i get your point. It would have been smart if they had called them something different from the start. My favorite doctor quote "its doctor evil i didnt go to 7 years of evil medical school to be called mr"
Haha definitely And yeah, a child not understanding a doctorate is no big deal, especially compared to the adults who don't understand it.
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is there a reason judgement can be spelled either judgement or judgment? It makes my brain hurt thinking about this
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Probably british vs american?
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A lot of slight spelling variations come from British vs. American English or other general dialectical preferences.
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On October 25 2017 01:41 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 01:20 Artisreal wrote: Funnily enough real doctors oftentimes have really shitty dissertations because they're expected to hold a doctor's degree by virtue of their job. Thus a doctorate in a different field is much harder to get than a medical doctor. I respectfully disagree. The difficulty in obtaining a PhD is primarily in getting funding to do it rather than the quality of the actual project. Apologies, I was speaking too broadly. This applies to all my German doctor friends and what they tell me of their colleagues. And those amount to 4 and I suspect them to have a pretty firm grasp on how things work on Germany
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What are you doing? Who ever apologises in this thread? *mock outrage*
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