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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On August 30 2016 22:52 OtherWorld wrote: Is being a private investigator as cool/awesome as it sounds? Regardless of its affiliation, investigating SUCKS. Hope my boss cannot read English. | ||
KwarK
United States44439 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 31 2016 15:16 KwarK wrote: If someone truly believes that abortion is baby murder how can they live with themselves if they don't do anything up to murder to stop it? Isn't that why there is more support to ban abortion than to fund orphans? Why civil rights can be suspended to prevent murder? Why planned parenthood is firebombed? Why doctors are threatened? Why aids is allowed to spread in Africa? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18488 Posts
On August 31 2016 12:29 Zambrah wrote: Okay, so I made dinner, it was chopped kale, avocado, chicken and black beans stewed together in chicken broth It tastes like burnt hair smells. The pan looks good, no scorch marks or burnt food on it. What the fuck happened? Well, you'd have to be an abominable cook, and generally ignore all your senses, to not notice this, but you might have burnt your ingredients to a crisp before adding the broth, which helped in cleaning the pan. Of course, burning food smells burnt... and if you leave it long enough to really contaminate your entire meal in taste, it generally also has smoke billowing out of your pot. The other option is that your black beans weren't black beans, but white beans that some prankster had burned to a crisp and put in your black bean packet. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 31 2016 15:16 KwarK wrote: If someone truly believes that abortion is baby murder how can they live with themselves if they don't do anything up to murder to stop it? I think you know this one yourself.  We don't live as we learn. Our emotions are not out conscious mind. We all (or well most...) say that all humans are worth the same, yet most of us would save a close friend over 10 people we don't know, especially people from different continents or, gasp, of different race. What we think and say is moral is different from what we actually do when we have a personal stake in the situation. I think this is perfectly acceptable, and it's very unfair if you are not allowed to advocate for a principle without living by it in every situation. No one, or very few, does that. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28923 Posts
On August 31 2016 15:16 KwarK wrote: If someone truly believes that abortion is baby murder how can they live with themselves if they don't do anything up to murder to stop it? I've kinda been of the opinion that the whole, ban abortion except in cases of rape or incest is not a morally consistent point of view to take, for this reason. If you think it's murder (and why else would you oppose abortion?) then surely someone being raped doesn't justify the murder of an innocent being as a consequence. But then there's the whole, 'try to be a decent human being' which is also important to most religious people, and that principle necessitates some degree of not living your life in strict deference to principles, because few principles (exceptions for example include 'always be pragmatic'  ) really allow you to consistently be a decent human being who doesn't just piss people off. It's kinda the same as belief in heaven/hell- if you genuinely believe that I, as a heathen, will go to hell for eternal damnation when I die, how can you possibly not spend the entirety of your time trying to convince me that I need to accept jesus christ in my heart? It's like, sure, I might find it annoying to have my life on earth spoiled by some jerk trying to turn me over to religion, but as a religious person, you're weighting me finding you annoying for say, 70 years of consistent nagging against me being tortured for all eternity. Not constantly trying to convince me of how wrong I am so I can also have an eternal blissful afterlife as opposed to eternal damnation is pretty shitty behavior, in this event.Basically I'm really happy that people either don't fully accept or understand the logical conclusions of their opinions or that they just plain don't care that much about me, or that they actually care a whole lot about the comfortability of their life on earth and not just what happens in the eternal beyond. | ||
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Khalum
Austria831 Posts
On August 31 2016 17:54 Cascade wrote: I think you know this one yourself. We don't live as we learn. Our emotions are not out conscious mind. We all (or well most...) say that all humans are worth the same, yet most of us would save a close friend over 10 people we don't know, especially people from different continents or, gasp, of different race. What we think and say is moral is different from what we actually do when we have a personal stake in the situation. I think this is perfectly acceptable, and it's very unfair if you are not allowed to advocate for a principle without living by it in every situation. No one, or very few, does that. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 31 2016 15:16 KwarK wrote: If someone truly believes that abortion is baby murder how can they live with themselves if they don't do anything up to murder to stop it? Cognitive dissonance somehow manages | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
Or they realise that the political process is the obly real way to stop it and they respect the democratic process and other views? People don't have time to fix all problems in the world. I don't agree with a lot of things the government does that doesn't mean I try to enforce my views with force. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On August 31 2016 18:42 RvB wrote: Or they realise that the political process is the obly real way to stop it and they respect the democratic process and other views? People don't have time to fix all problems in the world. I don't agree with a lot of things the government does that doesn't mean I try to enforce my views with force. Its also cost benefit of actions. Success with government change saves all babies. Success with violence saves one baby. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 31 2016 22:48 Thieving Magpie wrote: Its also cost benefit of actions. Success with government change saves all babies. Success with violence saves one baby. Or you know. You need to actually go out and do stuff to prevent that one murder. With potentially severe real life consequences to you. While pretend to try to change the policy can safely be done from your computer chair without any considerable risks. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On August 31 2016 12:29 Zambrah wrote: Okay, so I made dinner, it was chopped kale, avocado, chicken and black beans stewed together in chicken broth It tastes like burnt hair smells. The pan looks good, no scorch marks or burnt food on it. What the fuck happened? Baking avacado isn't something that's great to do | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On September 01 2016 01:18 Dark_Chill wrote: Baking avacado isn't something that's great to do **stewing, baked avocado can be good, but stewed sounds not great. | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
On August 31 2016 15:16 KwarK wrote: If someone truly believes that abortion is baby murder how can they live with themselves if they don't do anything up to murder to stop it? It's out of our jurisdiction; it's the government's job to suppress murder. The fact that the government is not only complicit in the murders but actively supporting them does not change the jurisdiction; it may be grounds for armed revolt against the government, but not for vandalizing abortion clinics. On August 31 2016 18:03 Liquid`Drone wrote: I've kinda been of the opinion that the whole, ban abortion except in cases of rape or incest is not a morally consistent point of view to take, for this reason. If you think it's murder (and why else would you oppose abortion?) then surely someone being raped doesn't justify the murder of an innocent being as a consequence. AFAICT this comes from Dawkinsism. Rape is a darwin-level crime in that it forces someone else to unwillingly raise your children. Where abortion would normally cheat the male out of their reproductive success, in the case of a rape pregnancy the reproductive success was illegally and unethically obtained in the first place, so abortion is an appropriate remedy. Dawkinsists appear to be a minority of the movement, but the rest is willing to pretend to compromise to solve 95% of the problem and then clean up the remaining 5% later. The US abortion discussion is a lot more complicated than it looks on the surface. It's kinda the same as belief in heaven/hell- if you genuinely believe that I, as a heathen, will go to hell for eternal damnation when I die, how can you possibly not spend the entirety of your time trying to convince me that I need to accept jesus christ in my heart? Because the constant nagging is less effective than checking up on you occasionally while praying for a miracle. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
On September 01 2016 02:22 OtherWorld wrote: whoa what, is "cheating the male out of their reproductive success" a valid argument used by anti-abortion people? If you can imagine it, someone believes it | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
On September 01 2016 02:22 OtherWorld wrote: whoa what, is "cheating the male out of their reproductive success" a valid argument used by anti-abortion people? Like I said, it's a minority viewpoint, and rarely expressed openly because it annoys other anti-abortion people. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28923 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18488 Posts
On September 01 2016 01:25 ThomasjServo wrote: **stewing, baked avocado can be good, but stewed sounds not great. Agree on this too, but it shouldn't taste burnt, just bitter (and lose its creamy texture as it turns to mush) | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
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