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On April 21 2016 05:18 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 05:09 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 23:59 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2016 23:55 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 20:05 SoSexy wrote:
How the fuck do people not get bored doing the same job over and over?
I can't understand jobs without a sense of progress. If you write a book, you have some sort of goal. Serving ice-cream, on the other hand, is just a repetitive task. How do you not get bored to death after 3 months doing it? To me it feels like the equivalent of opening and closing a door. After 5 minutes it feels like an eternity but you still have 7 hours 55 to go. I will never understand this You switch off and your mind wanders. It's like driving. Your mind is switched off when driving? Sure. You really remember all the decisions you make when you drive? Every mirror check? Every lane change? I don't. I know how to drive and my body pretty much autopilots it without me thinking about it. Maneuvers are performed from start to finish out of muscle memory. Hmm OK, I wasn't thinking of muscle memory but of conscious stuff like keeping your safety distance with the car in front of you or other stuff you need to constantly monitor (like your speed relative to the speed limit if you don't have overdrive)
none of these are things you mind has to consciously do after you done them enough. Its all sub-conscious.
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On April 21 2016 05:22 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 05:18 OtherWorld wrote:On April 21 2016 05:09 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 23:59 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2016 23:55 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 20:05 SoSexy wrote:
How the fuck do people not get bored doing the same job over and over?
I can't understand jobs without a sense of progress. If you write a book, you have some sort of goal. Serving ice-cream, on the other hand, is just a repetitive task. How do you not get bored to death after 3 months doing it? To me it feels like the equivalent of opening and closing a door. After 5 minutes it feels like an eternity but you still have 7 hours 55 to go. I will never understand this You switch off and your mind wanders. It's like driving. Your mind is switched off when driving? Sure. You really remember all the decisions you make when you drive? Every mirror check? Every lane change? I don't. I know how to drive and my body pretty much autopilots it without me thinking about it. Maneuvers are performed from start to finish out of muscle memory. Hmm OK, I wasn't thinking of muscle memory but of conscious stuff like keeping your safety distance with the car in front of you or other stuff you need to constantly monitor (like your speed relative to the speed limit if you don't have overdrive) none of these are things you mind has to consciously do after you done them enough. Its all sub-conscious.
Uh? I'm sorry but if your mind is wandering and not focused when you're driving at 130+km/h and the car in front of you brutally goes down to a slow speed due to an accident or whatever, you're losing big on reaction time, and you're not driving safely.
I mean yes, the fact of brutally slowing down in response to the car in front of you brutally slowing down is automatic and you don't have to think about it for ten seconds, we'll all agree on that. But if you're not focused, if your mind is wandering, you're being dangerous.
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On April 21 2016 05:26 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 05:22 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2016 05:18 OtherWorld wrote:On April 21 2016 05:09 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 23:59 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2016 23:55 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 20:05 SoSexy wrote:
How the fuck do people not get bored doing the same job over and over?
I can't understand jobs without a sense of progress. If you write a book, you have some sort of goal. Serving ice-cream, on the other hand, is just a repetitive task. How do you not get bored to death after 3 months doing it? To me it feels like the equivalent of opening and closing a door. After 5 minutes it feels like an eternity but you still have 7 hours 55 to go. I will never understand this You switch off and your mind wanders. It's like driving. Your mind is switched off when driving? Sure. You really remember all the decisions you make when you drive? Every mirror check? Every lane change? I don't. I know how to drive and my body pretty much autopilots it without me thinking about it. Maneuvers are performed from start to finish out of muscle memory. Hmm OK, I wasn't thinking of muscle memory but of conscious stuff like keeping your safety distance with the car in front of you or other stuff you need to constantly monitor (like your speed relative to the speed limit if you don't have overdrive) none of these are things you mind has to consciously do after you done them enough. Its all sub-conscious. Uh? I'm sorry but if your mind is wandering and not focused when you're driving at 130+km/h and the car in front of you brutally goes down to a slow speed due to an accident or whatever, you're losing big on reaction time, and you're not driving safely. I mean yes, the fact of brutally slowing down in response to the car in front of you brutally slowing down is automatic and you don't have to think about it for ten seconds, we'll all agree on that. But if you're not focused, if your mind is wandering, you're being dangerous.
Not really. My mind has automated safeguards. It's not like I have my eyes closed. I can see where I am, I can see where the car in front is, I know how fast I'm going. If any of the circumstances start changing in a way they shouldn't my brain will let me know about it pretty fucking quickly and my foot will already be on the break. I can keep a constant speed and distance pretty passively.
Maybe your brain works differently but for me it's mostly unconscious. It's like my brain has standing orders. Hell, it's like playing starcraft. You don't have to think about making probes and sending them to mine, it just happens.
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On April 21 2016 04:59 Naracs_Duc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 03:02 Epishade wrote:
As an air traffic controller I have to agree. Staring at a monitor with blinking dots for hours on end wears me out. You have to make it interesting for yourself to get you through the day, like trying to get 2 dots to touch and combine to make a bigger dot, or watching netflix instead. Wait--two dots touch is bad isn't it?
nah it's like agar.io, it makes them bigger
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On April 21 2016 05:26 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 05:22 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2016 05:18 OtherWorld wrote:On April 21 2016 05:09 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 23:59 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2016 23:55 KwarK wrote:On April 20 2016 20:05 SoSexy wrote:
How the fuck do people not get bored doing the same job over and over?
I can't understand jobs without a sense of progress. If you write a book, you have some sort of goal. Serving ice-cream, on the other hand, is just a repetitive task. How do you not get bored to death after 3 months doing it? To me it feels like the equivalent of opening and closing a door. After 5 minutes it feels like an eternity but you still have 7 hours 55 to go. I will never understand this You switch off and your mind wanders. It's like driving. Your mind is switched off when driving? Sure. You really remember all the decisions you make when you drive? Every mirror check? Every lane change? I don't. I know how to drive and my body pretty much autopilots it without me thinking about it. Maneuvers are performed from start to finish out of muscle memory. Hmm OK, I wasn't thinking of muscle memory but of conscious stuff like keeping your safety distance with the car in front of you or other stuff you need to constantly monitor (like your speed relative to the speed limit if you don't have overdrive) none of these are things you mind has to consciously do after you done them enough. Its all sub-conscious. Uh? I'm sorry but if your mind is wandering and not focused when you're driving at 130+km/h and the car in front of you brutally goes down to a slow speed due to an accident or whatever, you're losing big on reaction time, and you're not driving safely. I mean yes, the fact of brutally slowing down in response to the car in front of you brutally slowing down is automatic and you don't have to think about it for ten seconds, we'll all agree on that. But if you're not focused, if your mind is wandering, you're being dangerous.
Not to say I've never done it but I wish we were allowed to drive 130k+ anywhere around here....
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On April 21 2016 06:02 JimmiC wrote:
Your only "allowed" in very few places in the world. The people who do, just accept the risks
Oo most highways in the Netherlands are 130km/h
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On April 21 2016 06:05 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 06:02 JimmiC wrote:
Your only "allowed" in very few places in the world. The people who do, just accept the risks Oo most highways in the Netherlands are 130km/h
Yeah 130 km/h is the standard in France too, I believe Belgium is at 120, Germany either no-limit or 120, UK close to 130, etc
so basically most of Europe is at 120 km/h or more
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On April 21 2016 05:54 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 04:59 Naracs_Duc wrote:On April 21 2016 03:02 Epishade wrote:
As an air traffic controller I have to agree. Staring at a monitor with blinking dots for hours on end wears me out. You have to make it interesting for yourself to get you through the day, like trying to get 2 dots to touch and combine to make a bigger dot, or watching netflix instead. Wait--two dots touch is bad isn't it? nah it's like agar.io, it makes them bigger
I was assuming he was giving advice to pilots on what to do and trying to get "dots to touch"
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On April 21 2016 07:20 JimmiC wrote:
Well fuck then I'm a liar! here its 110 or 100 and most of the US is 50mph 60 or rarely 70 mph
US is bullshit speed laws.
Its written 65
Its taught 70
You don't really get in trouble until at least 75
Most people go 80
The cops only really care at around 85
And when the roads are empty people go 90
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On April 21 2016 07:38 JimmiC wrote:
Canada is the same you can go 10-15 km over and there is never a problem. except in school zones that have 0 tolerance
The issue is more enforcement.
You can be driving side by side with a cop with the flow of traffic going 80, then some guy goes 81 and the cop pulls him over for moving slightly faster than the crowd and I'm thinking "what happened between 15 over the speed limit and 16 over the speed limit gave you the argument that somehow NOW is when its gone too far"
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On April 21 2016 07:20 JimmiC wrote:
Well fuck then I'm a liar! here its 110 or 100 and most of the US is 50mph 60 or rarely 70 mph
70 is pretty common on interstates in the states. I live in Saint Paul and have to drive maybe 15 minutes before the speed limit on I94 goes to 70 just outside the metro area.
Within a metro area, seldom if ever though, true.
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On April 21 2016 06:05 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 06:02 JimmiC wrote:
Your only "allowed" in very few places in the world. The people who do, just accept the risks Oo most highways in the Netherlands are 130km/h
130 is the max but you usually get limited to lower speeds like 120 or 100 especially near big cities like Amsterdam. Then again you're usually stuck in a traffic jam if you drive there anyway.
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On April 21 2016 08:01 Naracs_Duc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 07:38 JimmiC wrote:
Canada is the same you can go 10-15 km over and there is never a problem. except in school zones that have 0 tolerance The issue is more enforcement. You can be driving side by side with a cop with the flow of traffic going 80, then some guy goes 81 and the cop pulls him over for moving slightly faster than the crowd and I'm thinking "what happened between 15 over the speed limit and 16 over the speed limit gave you the argument that somehow NOW is when its gone too far"
Cops are assholes with quotas to fill.
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Why doesn't everyone in Harry Potter just teleport when they hear someone start to say "Avada-"
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On April 21 2016 02:37 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 00:28 Thieving Magpie wrote:On April 20 2016 20:05 SoSexy wrote:
How the fuck do people not get bored doing the same job over and over?
I can't understand jobs without a sense of progress. If you write a book, you have some sort of goal. Serving ice-cream, on the other hand, is just a repetitive task. How do you not get bored to death after 3 months doing it? To me it feels like the equivalent of opening and closing a door. After 5 minutes it feels like an eternity but you still have 7 hours 55 to go. I will never understand this Because that's not what it is? Your job is what you make it, and it will have parts of it that are repetitive and parts of it that aren't. It really depends how proactive you are. Do you make the ice cream? Do you market the ice cream? How do you communicate to others about the ice cream? How do you make the customer's experience with *your* ice cream unique? Are you chatting with customers? Are you making it a performance piece? Is there an art to how you scoop it, how you hand it over, or how you talk about it? The only reason you ever get bored with a job is because you yourself are making it boring. Yeah. .. no. While working fast enough to get your part of a production line done in time, and neatly without mistakes may be a little bit challenging, there is nothing that makes it not-boring for hours on end. Allowing your mind to wonder helps, as does music, bit it is fundamentally tedious work. That said, I now do work that entices me and I am inherently motivated to do, and do well, but even so there are boring parts. Running the same experiment and ana lysis over and over with different parameters does also get tedious. However unlike factory work, that is just one task out of many different ones that I have to do.
Let me put this in videogame perspectives.
Right Clicking Minerals in BW is boring. Knowing that right-clicking minerals in BW leads to something else that you can also use is not boring.
Scooping ice cream, as an isolated action, is boring.
Performing your part to maximize the overall business, and proactively finding other ways to contribute to that business--is not boring.
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On April 21 2016 15:42 oBlade wrote:
Why doesn't everyone in Harry Potter just teleport when they hear someone start to say "Avada-"
wouldn't make for a good book series, I imagine
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On April 21 2016 15:42 oBlade wrote:
Why doesn't everyone in Harry Potter just teleport when they hear someone start to say "Avada-"
Because there is another untold spell, called 'Avada argasma' that gives intense pleasure for 4 days and 4 hours straight.
This is actually why the death spell was named this way, so people would get an innate reflex of hope for pleasure so strong that even in the middle of a fight against a deadly opponent you would be very unlikely to be able to react in time.
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