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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43989 Posts
January 24 2016 00:18 GMT
#7741
On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process.

That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-24 01:27:49
January 24 2016 01:17 GMT
#7742
On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process.

That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.

Should the law treat people the same as they treat corporations though? Plus, the disincentive to challenge large companies is already a thing. They're willing to spend sometimes hundreds of times more money than you on legal council to avoid creating a precedent. Your concern is certainly valid but the status quo does not in any way give private citizens the tools they need to litigate against corporations which have lawyers on their payroll.

I mean you're in the US, it's not infrequent for people to lose in court against corporations or to win amounts of money that seem substantial until you remember that they're paying for overly expensive medical care so beating X company for $500,000 seems like much less money when you consider legal fees and the $300,000 worth of surgery and medical expenses plus the loss of revenue. So the incentive to challenge large companies in court is already a bit of a joke. It seems like when people win against corporations here in Canada, all they get (besides damages) is a "you won" certificate printed on a 8.5x11 sheet of paper and maybe some pocket change to take a cab back home. At least you have the satisfaction to know that the courts slapped a corporation on the wrist, but they don't lose much because they just have to pay back the equivalent of how much they fucked you over. What should we do?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11839 Posts
January 24 2016 07:37 GMT
#7743
On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process.

That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.


Yes, but on the other hand you have the very real situation where people don't want to challenge big corporations in court because the legal fees would ruin them. Or where big corporation can ruin competitors simply by suing them and making sure everything lasts as long as possible, so that even if the others win they still lose because they go bankrupt from legal fees.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 24 2016 08:12 GMT
#7744
On January 24 2016 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I have always felt a disconnect because it's really hard for me to see text on my screen as a person. Sure using voip or having an in depth conversation can change that but initially, everyone online may as well be a bot programmed to make posts. It's probably why I like twitch chat when so many others here don't, it's a content generation machine.

Bots of the world, unite !
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StealthToast
Profile Joined May 2014
Greece10 Posts
January 24 2016 09:00 GMT
#7745
Well, here goes. Can anyone give a little help with a Korean-to-English translation? I can't select the text and copy-paste it to Google Translate, so, I'd appreciate some assistance.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
January 24 2016 10:15 GMT
#7746
On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process.

That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.


It's a bit more complicated than "refund your opponent everything he paid to win this case". If you lose you're only supposed to cover reasonable expenses so if the large company hired 50+ lawyers you don't have to worry about paying for all of them, you just have to pay for one because the other guys aren't considered necessary. And it's not as much as the one lawyer demands but as much as the legislator thinks the lawyer deserves for given kind of case.
You're now breathing manually
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
January 24 2016 14:20 GMT
#7747
On January 24 2016 18:00 StealthToast wrote:
Well, here goes. Can anyone give a little help with a Korean-to-English translation? I can't select the text and copy-paste it to Google Translate, so, I'd appreciate some assistance.

Not sure if anyone here in this thread can read Korean. But take a screenshot and you can post it here. If it's sc2 related, try the translation request thread in sc2 general (search for it).
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 24 2016 18:12 GMT
#7748
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43989 Posts
January 24 2016 18:14 GMT
#7749
*Unless you run into a bad apple which are surprisingly common and are actively shielded by the good apples. Also don't be black.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 24 2016 18:21 GMT
#7750
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
January 25 2016 02:29 GMT
#7751
On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process.

That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.


My understanding was that in the UK losers paying court costs was a far more common thing than in the US. Admittedly, I'm no expert on the UK legal system. (or the US one for that matter)
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 14:03:24
January 25 2016 13:51 GMT
#7752
need someone who's good with hillbilly-german. So someone who's been learning german linked me this in irc and I have no idea what that last line is supposed to be:

[image loading]

what's a "vurst'n ko"

+ Show Spoiler [youtube link, I can't recommend it] +
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 25 2016 13:58 GMT
#7753
Hillbilly German makes me think lederhosen but without a shirt, socks and sandals for footwear.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 25 2016 14:22 GMT
#7754
On January 25 2016 22:51 Toadesstern wrote:
need someone who's good with hillbilly-german. So someone who's been learning german linked me this in irc and I have no idea what that last line is supposed to be:

[image loading]

what's a "vurst'n ko"

+ Show Spoiler [youtube link, I can't recommend it] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkEs0bEe9s


was man sich nur vorstellen kann.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 14:39:08
January 25 2016 14:23 GMT
#7755
OOOOOOH

(I just realized one of the comments on youtube had a translation into german...)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
January 25 2016 14:40 GMT
#7756
Okay, I'll bite. What's Leiwandste?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 14:52:48
January 25 2016 14:51 GMT
#7757
never heard that either but it was pretty obvious from context to be something along the lines of "the coolest (thing)" / "the most amazing (thing)"

I guess to make it equally awkward in english perhaps "rad" ?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10884 Posts
January 25 2016 15:24 GMT
#7758
leiwandste --> leinwandste --> Leinwände sind für Bilder --> Bilder sind schön --> Leiwandste.


It makes total sense!
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 15:43:30
January 25 2016 15:41 GMT
#7759
On January 25 2016 22:51 Toadesstern wrote:
need someone who's good with hillbilly-german. So someone who's been learning german linked me this in irc and I have no idea what that last line is supposed to be:

[image loading]

what's a "vurst'n ko"

+ Show Spoiler [youtube link, I can't recommend it] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkEs0bEe9s


I am offended by your use of "hillbilly-german" for my beautiful dialect. Also, I would never have written "vurst'n" like that. But yeah the translation given earlier is correct.

On January 26 2016 00:24 Velr wrote:
leiwandste --> leinwandste --> Leinwände sind für Bilder --> Bilder sind schön --> Leiwandste.


It makes total sense!


Another Austrian band (EAV) actually used that in a similar context. Skip to ~2:02 or listen to the whole thing, your decision..

+ Show Spoiler +
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 16:07:54
January 25 2016 16:04 GMT
#7760
I wasn't entirely sure what part of Germany / Austria / Switzerland that could be aside from having to go south. So just take it as as literal as possible since it's people living in the alps (mountains), right?

At least it sounds funnier than Berlin dialect. All I can do as someone from around Frankfurt is turn "Ich" into "Isch" while changing every k into a g for every word in a sentence
Oh and also "zuene", which apparently is not a german word. As in "das zuene Fenster" (geschlossene)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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