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On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process.
That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.
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On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process. That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.
Should the law treat people the same as they treat corporations though? Plus, the disincentive to challenge large companies is already a thing. They're willing to spend sometimes hundreds of times more money than you on legal council to avoid creating a precedent. Your concern is certainly valid but the status quo does not in any way give private citizens the tools they need to litigate against corporations which have lawyers on their payroll.
I mean you're in the US, it's not infrequent for people to lose in court against corporations or to win amounts of money that seem substantial until you remember that they're paying for overly expensive medical care so beating X company for $500,000 seems like much less money when you consider legal fees and the $300,000 worth of surgery and medical expenses plus the loss of revenue. So the incentive to challenge large companies in court is already a bit of a joke. It seems like when people win against corporations here in Canada, all they get (besides damages) is a "you won" certificate printed on a 8.5x11 sheet of paper and maybe some pocket change to take a cab back home. At least you have the satisfaction to know that the courts slapped a corporation on the wrist, but they don't lose much because they just have to pay back the equivalent of how much they fucked you over. What should we do?
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On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process. That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.
Yes, but on the other hand you have the very real situation where people don't want to challenge big corporations in court because the legal fees would ruin them. Or where big corporation can ruin competitors simply by suing them and making sure everything lasts as long as possible, so that even if the others win they still lose because they go bankrupt from legal fees.
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On January 24 2016 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I have always felt a disconnect because it's really hard for me to see text on my screen as a person. Sure using voip or having an in depth conversation can change that but initially, everyone online may as well be a bot programmed to make posts. It's probably why I like twitch chat when so many others here don't, it's a content generation machine.
Bots of the world, unite !
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Well, here goes. Can anyone give a little help with a Korean-to-English translation? I can't select the text and copy-paste it to Google Translate, so, I'd appreciate some assistance.
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On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process. That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.
It's a bit more complicated than "refund your opponent everything he paid to win this case". If you lose you're only supposed to cover reasonable expenses so if the large company hired 50+ lawyers you don't have to worry about paying for all of them, you just have to pay for one because the other guys aren't considered necessary. And it's not as much as the one lawyer demands but as much as the legislator thinks the lawyer deserves for given kind of case.
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On January 24 2016 18:00 StealthToast wrote:
Well, here goes. Can anyone give a little help with a Korean-to-English translation? I can't select the text and copy-paste it to Google Translate, so, I'd appreciate some assistance.
Not sure if anyone here in this thread can read Korean. But take a screenshot and you can post it here. If it's sc2 related, try the translation request thread in sc2 general (search for it).
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*Unless you run into a bad apple which are surprisingly common and are actively shielded by the good apples. Also don't be black.
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On January 24 2016 09:18 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 08:41 Sent. wrote:
If you win in court you should get your court expenses covered by the losing party. Here where I live, all you need to do is to demand that compensation before the case is finished (don't know why it isn't automatical but thats irrelevant). I don't know how it is in America but I doubt it's much different. Maybe the guy didn't win completely or messed something up in the process. That would be a huge disincentive to ever challenge large companies in court. Even if you have a 90% chance of winning the threat of losing coupled with the obligation to pay their legal costs would be a big factor.
My understanding was that in the UK losers paying court costs was a far more common thing than in the US. Admittedly, I'm no expert on the UK legal system. (or the US one for that matter)
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Hillbilly German makes me think lederhosen but without a shirt, socks and sandals for footwear.
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On January 25 2016 22:51 Toadesstern wrote:need someone who's good with hillbilly-german. So someone who's been learning german linked me this in irc and I have no idea what that last line is supposed to be: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s6zLez3.png) what's a "vurst'n ko"+ Show Spoiler [youtube link, I can't recommend it] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkEs0bEe9s
was man sich nur vorstellen kann.
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OOOOOOH
(I just realized one of the comments on youtube had a translation into german...)
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Okay, I'll bite. What's Leiwandste?
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never heard that either but it was pretty obvious from context to be something along the lines of "the coolest (thing)" / "the most amazing (thing)"
I guess to make it equally awkward in english perhaps "rad" ?
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leiwandste --> leinwandste --> Leinwände sind für Bilder --> Bilder sind schön --> Leiwandste.
It makes total sense!
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On January 25 2016 22:51 Toadesstern wrote:need someone who's good with hillbilly-german. So someone who's been learning german linked me this in irc and I have no idea what that last line is supposed to be: what's a "vurst'n ko"+ Show Spoiler [youtube link, I can't recommend it] +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkEs0bEe9s
I am offended by your use of "hillbilly-german" for my beautiful dialect. Also, I would never have written "vurst'n" like that. But yeah the translation given earlier is correct.
On January 26 2016 00:24 Velr wrote:
leiwandste --> leinwandste --> Leinwände sind für Bilder --> Bilder sind schön --> Leiwandste.
It makes total sense!
Another Austrian band (EAV) actually used that in a similar context. Skip to ~2:02 or listen to the whole thing, your decision..
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I wasn't entirely sure what part of Germany / Austria / Switzerland that could be aside from having to go south. So just take it as as literal as possible since it's people living in the alps (mountains), right?
At least it sounds funnier than Berlin dialect. All I can do as someone from around Frankfurt is turn "Ich" into "Isch" while changing every k into a g for every word in a sentence 
Oh and also "zuene", which apparently is not a german word. As in "das zuene Fenster" (geschlossene)
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