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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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KwarK
United States44410 Posts
On February 03 2016 01:59 Toadesstern wrote: So Bernie lost 5 coin tosses in a row? Seems pretty clear that the money favours Hillary. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46649 Posts
On February 03 2016 01:45 KwarK wrote: Nope, the Bernie vs Clinton tie was settled by a series of coin tosses in which Bernie got very unlucky. Literal cointosses. GH suspects foul play, not fowl play. Well played. | ||
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Khalum
Austria831 Posts
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oBlade
United States6656 Posts
On February 03 2016 09:34 Khalum wrote: Why do we always want what we can't have? Because you have strayed from Stoicism. "Seek not that the things which happen should happen as you wish; but wish the things which happen to be as they are, and you will have a tranquil flow of life." Epictetus | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On February 03 2016 10:05 riotjune wrote: er, Wat? It is what it is, expecting it not to be what it is is foolish. | ||
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Khalum
Austria831 Posts
On February 03 2016 09:44 oBlade wrote: Because you have strayed from Stoicism. "Seek not that the things which happen should happen as you wish; but wish the things which happen to be as they are, and you will have a tranquil flow of life." Epictetus That answer seems flawed to me as it goes against my instincts. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46649 Posts
On February 03 2016 09:34 Khalum wrote: Why do we always want what we can't have? Because we don't like being told we can't have something. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On February 03 2016 01:59 Toadesstern wrote: So Bernie lost 5 coin tosses in a row? He lost 5 different coin tosses in 5 different locations tossed at 5 different times for 5 different reasons. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 03 2016 14:38 Zambrah wrote: What is trap music tyrannosaur rap ; it refers to the big rap artists/bands of the early Hip-Hop era | ||
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oBlade
United States6656 Posts
On February 03 2016 10:35 Khalum wrote: That answer seems flawed to me as it goes against my instincts. Are you talking about forbidden fruit or about not getting what you want? I can give you a different angle on the latter. There's no way to know if you can have something before you get it. Even if you die without getting it, that doesn't mean there wasn't a chance you could have gotten it. So given that you can't necessarily tell ahead of time what you can or can't get, the only way to, with certainty, NOT want things that you can't get is to not want everything. And that would kill the whole human spirit. The whole spirit of life, for that matter... Imagine if the young cheetah sat around all day saying "I can't catch that gazelle." Backed up by "I've never caught one before, either." Or are you talking about falling in love with Taylor Swift or something? That falls more under daydreaming. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
On February 03 2016 09:34 Khalum wrote: Why do we always want what we can't have? it's not "we" it's not "always" and it's not "can't have" but to answer within the context of your question - because you're trained/conditioned to think that way(you know, like a dog). in a real life evolution-driven-setting, people who think that way die young and are given as examples of ... well, stupidity. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On February 03 2016 16:24 xM(Z wrote: it's not "we" it's not "always" and it's not "can't have" but to answer within the context of your question - because you're trained/conditioned to think that way(you know, like a dog). in a real life evolution-driven-setting, people who think that way die young and are given as examples of ... well, stupidity. The issue is the misuse of the term have in order to emphasize the word want. A more accurate phrase would be: "I can only long for things that I do not have" This is because, you can't really "want something" or "yearn something" or "need something" if you already have it. You want or a car, or you have a car--its not both. You want a specific car, or you have a specific car--its not both. Hence the improper but normalized phrase "Want what we can't have." | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
you skip over the connection between the I's in your premise the wants from your conclusion. i took it as - this is I and I am supposed to want things and this is the environment I am suppose to want things from. why?. you also skip over the effect of others over your want's by making that phrase (self)reflective only(i can long, i do not have) while the original form/meaning had more leeway that way. i can train you to want certain things via conditioning + a reward system. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24473 Posts
Anyone else see that and know where I could find more information on it? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46649 Posts
On February 03 2016 15:11 OtherWorld wrote: tyrannosaur rap ; it refers to the big rap artists/bands of the early Hip-Hop era Trap isn't a portmanteau of "Tyrannosaur rap"; it refers to the following "trap": "The term "trap" is used to refer to the place where drug deals are made and how it is difficult to escape the lifestyle. The term originated in Atlanta, Georgia where rappers Cool Breeze, Dungeon Family, Outkast, Goodie Mob, and Ghetto Mafia were some of the first to use the term in their music. Fans and critics started to refer to rappers whose primary lyrical topic was drug dealing, as "trap rappers."[4] ... During the early-to-mid 2000s, trap music began to emerge as a recognized genre after the mainstream success of a number of albums and singles with lyrics that covered topics about life in "the trap", drug dealing and the struggle for success.[5] Several Southern rappers with drug dealer personas such as T.I., Young Jeezy, Gucci Mane and Rick Ross produced crossover hits and helped expand the popularity of the genre, with trap records beginning to appear more heavily on mixtapes and radio stations outside of the South.[2]" ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_music The article goes on to explain that trap music has also started to include EDM (electronic dance music) elements, where "EDM trap" includes some dubstep, techno, and house sounds. And so trap music might refer to rap genre without the EDM elements, or it might be referring to the newer EDM-infused genre. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 03 2016 21:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Trap isn't a portmanteau of "Tyrannosaur rap"; it refers to the following "trap": "The term "trap" is used to refer to the place where drug deals are made and how it is difficult to escape the lifestyle. The term originated in Atlanta, Georgia where rappers Cool Breeze, Dungeon Family, Outkast, Goodie Mob, and Ghetto Mafia were some of the first to use the term in their music. Fans and critics started to refer to rappers whose primary lyrical topic was drug dealing, as "trap rappers."[4] ... During the early-to-mid 2000s, trap music began to emerge as a recognized genre after the mainstream success of a number of albums and singles with lyrics that covered topics about life in "the trap", drug dealing and the struggle for success.[5] Several Southern rappers with drug dealer personas such as T.I., Young Jeezy, Gucci Mane and Rick Ross produced crossover hits and helped expand the popularity of the genre, with trap records beginning to appear more heavily on mixtapes and radio stations outside of the South.[2]" ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_music The article goes on to explain that trap music has also started to include EDM (electronic dance music) elements, where "EDM trap" includes some dubstep, techno, and house sounds. And so trap music might refer to rap genre without the EDM elements, or it might be referring to the newer EDM-infused genre. It was a joke^^ I had no idea about what trap music actually was though, so thanks for the enlightenment | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On February 03 2016 18:09 xM(Z wrote: hmm, this "I can only long for things that I do not have" is not here nor there. you skip over the connection between the I's in your premise the wants from your conclusion. i took it as - this is I and I am supposed to want things and this is the environment I am suppose to want things from. why?. you also skip over the effect of others over your want's by making that phrase (self)reflective only(i can long, i do not have) while the original form/meaning had more leeway that way. i can train you to want certain things via conditioning + a reward system. Pronoun choice does not counter refute what I just said. "You can only long for things you do not have" is the same as "I can only long for things I do not have." And no matter which variation or pronoun choice is made--the core is still the same. Wanting something only happens because you do not have it yet. You can punish me to want to have a bunny by my side, but once I have the buddy I have no reason to keep looking for more bunnies. You can punish me to want to have a certain amount of bunnies, but once that number is reached equilibrium would take place. What you are imagining with the conditioning + reward system is one of two things: retrieval training, or addiction. You train me to want to get a bunny, then you take the bunny away, and then I get another bunny. OR You train me to continually collect bunnies, but I don't actually care about the bunnies and just care about their retrieval. The end result remains the same. You cannot be seeking or looking to own something you already have or own--because you have it already, the need for it is gone. | ||
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