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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45174 Posts
December 22 2014 01:43 GMT
#3461
On December 22 2014 10:36 The_Templar wrote:
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Every time my parents reassure me that starcraft is just a game I want to punch a wall -____-


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It's okay man.

They're just your parents.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 22 2014 01:53 GMT
#3462
On December 22 2014 10:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On December 22 2014 10:36 The_Templar wrote:
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Every time my parents reassure me that starcraft is just a game I want to punch a wall -____-


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It's okay man.

They're just your parents.

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Yeah, but they've been telling me this for YEARS. And no matter what I try to do to convince them otherwise, they still don't get it.
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 22 2014 02:03 GMT
#3463
On December 22 2014 10:36 The_Templar wrote:
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Every time my parents reassure me that starcraft is just a game I want to punch a wall -____-


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#passion

Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
December 22 2014 02:35 GMT
#3464
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every single blizzard map ever released has been a complete and utter piece of shit AND YET THEY STILL KEEP MAKING THEM

AND ADDING THEM TO LADDER

oh and fuck deadwing, blizz maps might suck but that one is worse
vibeo gane,
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 22 2014 19:01 GMT
#3465
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I've run out of Hob Nob biscuits! For fucks sake

#FirstWorldProblems
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 26 2014 03:50 GMT
#3466
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I love my family very dearly. They're all great, kind and wonderful people. But I have absolutely no desire to hang out with them over Christmas. We have nothing in common. I'm a giant nerd stuck with a bunch of small town rednecks who talk about nothing but small town drama involving people I dont know and cars and crappy TV shows and stuff like that. It makes me feel so guilty that I only get to see these people a few weekends every year but I want nothing more than to go home and be by myself.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 26 2014 04:10 GMT
#3467
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Ugh. Yesterday, my younger brother decided to play LoL and minecraft instead of SC2 (even though he's worse at LoL than SC2) and I snapped at him a bit. So today, I made sure I showed him both TRUE vs FanTaSy games (he loves micro battles) and THE TaeJa vs INnoVation game. Although he loved them, now I'm worried he'll 'figure out' that most SC2 games are not remotely similar to that and will start finding the average LoL game exciting >.>

I don't have anything against LoL at all, but I can't stand everyone around me choosing it over SC2. I need someone playing it with me too.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 26 2014 04:14 GMT
#3468
On December 26 2014 13:10 The_Templar wrote:
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Ugh. Yesterday, my younger brother decided to play LoL and minecraft instead of SC2 (even though he's worse at LoL than SC2) and I snapped at him a bit. So today, I made sure I showed him both TRUE vs FanTaSy games (he loves micro battles) and THE TaeJa vs INnoVation game. Although he loved them, now I'm worried he'll 'figure out' that most SC2 games are not remotely similar to that and will start finding the average LoL game exciting >.>

I don't have anything against LoL at all, but I can't stand everyone around me choosing it over SC2. I need someone playing it with me too.

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there are always more plebs than patricians. You can't win em all
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-26 04:28:42
December 26 2014 04:20 GMT
#3469
On December 26 2014 13:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On December 26 2014 13:10 The_Templar wrote:
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Ugh. Yesterday, my younger brother decided to play LoL and minecraft instead of SC2 (even though he's worse at LoL than SC2) and I snapped at him a bit. So today, I made sure I showed him both TRUE vs FanTaSy games (he loves micro battles) and THE TaeJa vs INnoVation game. Although he loved them, now I'm worried he'll 'figure out' that most SC2 games are not remotely similar to that and will start finding the average LoL game exciting >.>

I don't have anything against LoL at all, but I can't stand everyone around me choosing it over SC2. I need someone playing it with me too.

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there are always more plebs than patricians. You can't win em all

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This is my younger brother though. He is too similar to me, he's an independent thinker and he does enjoy SC2. I think he finds both SC2 and LoL to be almost an obligation, and for some reason he'd rather play LoL (less stressful I guess).

I just don't want every single person in my family to be playing/watching LoL while I'm here trying to enjoy the more passionate and fun game. Even my mother seems genuinely interested in it, since she actually watched a game of LoL but never wanted to take her time to watch SC2 ._.

I have a few ideas on how to keep some of my family thinking about SC2 at least on the same level, though. I'm trying them out right now.
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 26 2014 04:23 GMT
#3470
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SC2 less stressful than LoL?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 26 2014 04:28 GMT
#3471
On December 26 2014 13:23 Shiragaku wrote:
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SC2 less stressful than LoL?

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No, he plays LoL because it's less stressful. Clarifying in original post.
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porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
December 26 2014 04:33 GMT
#3472
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WHY THE FUCK DO YOU LEAVE THE GAME?!?!?!? ARE YOU AFRAID YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE FUCKING 20pp? DOES IT REALLY BOTHER YOU THAT MUCH? ... THEN PEOPLE WONT GIVE A FUCKING RUNBACK OFF OF A CLOSE GAME EITHER FUCK YOU YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT THE GAME WAS GOOD TOO WHY ARE YOU SCARED OF LOSING POINTS?
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 26 2014 04:53 GMT
#3473
On December 26 2014 13:20 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2014 13:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 26 2014 13:10 The_Templar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ugh. Yesterday, my younger brother decided to play LoL and minecraft instead of SC2 (even though he's worse at LoL than SC2) and I snapped at him a bit. So today, I made sure I showed him both TRUE vs FanTaSy games (he loves micro battles) and THE TaeJa vs INnoVation game. Although he loved them, now I'm worried he'll 'figure out' that most SC2 games are not remotely similar to that and will start finding the average LoL game exciting >.>

I don't have anything against LoL at all, but I can't stand everyone around me choosing it over SC2. I need someone playing it with me too.

+ Show Spoiler +
there are always more plebs than patricians. You can't win em all

+ Show Spoiler +
This is my younger brother though. He is too similar to me, he's an independent thinker and he does enjoy SC2. I think he finds both SC2 and LoL to be almost an obligation, and for some reason he'd rather play LoL (less stressful I guess).

I just don't want every single person in my family to be playing/watching LoL while I'm here trying to enjoy the more passionate and fun game. Even my mother seems genuinely interested in it, since she actually watched a game of LoL but never wanted to take her time to watch SC2 ._.

I have a few ideas on how to keep some of my family thinking about SC2 at least on the same level, though. I'm trying them out right now.


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At least your family knows what those games are. I don't even tell mine I watch games and my grandma is super convinced I'm gonna shoot up a school because I played a war game before.
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 26 2014 16:01 GMT
#3474
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I want the people who designed this ffucking game to be raped by rusty tire irons every day of their lives
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
DepressedOne
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
United States190 Posts
December 26 2014 17:49 GMT
#3475
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I have a headache.
Me sad.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 26 2014 18:45 GMT
#3476
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No good deed goes unpunished.

I talked to a relative on the phone last night and they asked if they could call me on occasion for computer help. Usually I refuse but I decided to be nice in this instance and say sure. They have now called me 3 times today for help and it is not even 1PM. I'm going to stop answering my phone now.

Give and inch and they take a mile.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 27 2014 10:55 GMT
#3477
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I hate when some douchewad has to step into the middle of something good and just shit on it and ruin it for everyone just because.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
December 27 2014 15:17 GMT
#3478
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this will be long, i'm sorry.
i ended up running a raid for a while. it was a convenient solution to get people i like to play with each other in a group that i also resided in. i never thought about it in a critical way until now--that i was attempting to build a team for the purpose of clearing game content together. i just wanted a time and date to meetup with 7 other people so we could have fun min/maxing together.
so when it came time (one year) where i couldn't lie to myself anymore about hating mostly everyone's play in our group, i learned that it's completely justifiable to take the burden or responsibility of having been the source of said bad play.

being the 'leader' (wanting it to be incognito or not) means you have a large influence on how the group interacts or the way people play on an individual level when it comes to playing for content that is designed to be difficult.

i never wanted to be the leader, and i very much prefer not calling out a single mechanic because my ability to multitask is limited to me being able to perform my role in the first place. i found myself making mistakes and getting snap-back remarks about my play as i begin to voice my own frustrations about our progression woes.
and so i found myself not even being able to offer criticism because i felt so stressed and depressed about organizing everything, and making sure roles are being delegated so i didn't end up the only person calling out boss mechanics and timings.

my role is a dps and i don't know anybody with the same role on any server who does the stuff i was doing within my group, in and out of raid. i just found myself starting with those responsibilities because the content was easier and i knew i could help out in the group if i tried hard enough to balance focus between everything happening.
it became habit and there were even times where i thought that i needed to stop letting people handle certain mechanics.
so then i was a dps doing all of the non-dps mechanics and trying to make sure there was enough focus in the group to practice and handle the mechanics that couldn't concern me or the players i needed to work with.
as much as that sounded like a huge ego-tease in my head before typing, it was 100% truth, and i felt there was no way out besides leaving.

once again,
as a 'leader', you're able to be nice to everyone and keep a good atmosphere. you're able to make sure an unwritten agenda is being kept to and that everyone is being fair despite conflicting interests or efforts. this does -not- mean that the effort you place into things is going to be reciprocated or noticed.

nobody is going to notice that i gave away a trip to japan with my parents (decades older compared to other parents of people my age), or turned down too many people to count for us to have a chance to raid. nobody is going to simply notice that it hurt every single time i had to explain to a pug that i needed to have expectations of them, or that our group was probably not going to thank them for all their efforts afterwards--because guess what, you can't just tell people to act the way you want them to around others.
yet you are running on several other people's time, and time is very valuable currency.
it didn't even occur to some people to thank somebody for bending themselves backwards to be able to fill in on short-notice... because you (hypothetically speaking) refused to believe you needed sleep to function the next day. and decided it'd be fine to set alarms for naps and be tired for raid days that everyone is looking forward to.

so although i love playing with these guys and talking with everyone as friends, we came to schedule problems where either we couldn't raid this patch, or we needed to have extremely difficult times. we chose the difficult times and suffered at the start. everyone suffered. i spent three hours a day practicing and parsing on more than one class so the possibility of carrying someone on one of their bad days (or good) could be a thing.
the most basic of damn things, i needed to have a solution for, otherwise it was silent awkwardness, or a lengthening of wasted time in our already bad time-situation.
i'm told they want to be competitive, and that they're tired of being behind.
the one time i explicitly ask for help in a dire way, 'can someone with a better internal clock please help me count 15 seconds for ____ mechanic while i get more comfortable in this fight?.. anybody? . . . nobody at all?' nope. just deal with it.
a handful people want to be more competitive yet a couple of them are the very same people who never practice or consult information that's easily available and is made available to them--and i tell them that, and also since the very beginning, confide in them that it's overly stressful and impossible for me to continue doing what i was doing--that i wanted to play more for myself and step backwards. please for the love of everything good--never consider i did a good job as someone who happens to be reading this, but i tried my very hardest when doing all of this, and while i was completely outside of my comfort zone.

after all this damn consideration--and believe it or not--lost sleep over the subject of organizing and keeping things going, when i voice concerns or try a direct approach to hushing non-raid chatter during our already-tight okay time, i am suddenly the undisputed villian. people are talking about me behind my back all the time and aren't voicing grievances or concerns to me when i have been pleading for the chance to talk from the very beginning.
sure, talk doesn't help all that much, and sure, i have the image of leadership tagged onto me, but they knew i loved to help, or why would i be there in the first place?

the method of asking someone to focus harder or better is considered calling someone out and is normally frowned upon in raiding etiquette. in the top groups out there in any raid, you're expected to be able to dish and receive harsh words all the time--so long as they relate directly to the cause and don't step over boundaries in the process.
i don't do callouts on a person by person basis. i'm mr. rogers to the best way i can manage. i care about individual mechanics and the way mistakes are made as well as how they're fixed as a group. yet due to our inexperience with studying fights and with self-study, i am noticing groups of our squad making the same mistakes over and over.
this is common in most groups, but what is uncommon is when nobody owns up to making the mistake.
however much you feel otherwise, you are not a damn prodigy who doesn't benefit from watching videos or reading strategy; however much you feel you have a grasp and other people are holding you back, you have ample opportunity turning your frustration into helpful advice and patience to help these people succeed like you. i've said it time and time again. everybody is at fault in some little or unknown way.
i am probably the slowest learner out of everyone present, and i have the knowledge necessary to advance our progression in the fight. mistake after mistake, chatter over more chatter while mistakes are happening, or over friends who are very evidently trying to concentrate on what they need to mid-fight. i'm thinking: what in the flying fuck are you thinking?
listen to what i am trying to call out to you, and stop blaming your mistakes on other people when it would be very evident what your problem was if you were paying attention in the first place; if we can get this one fight down on farm mode, we can just have fun and chat then!

what a waste of my time---what a waste of -me-.
is what i felt when the laziest member of our raid--the person who claimed my strategy as his own as he brought it to other groups to show off and advertise--left for PR reasons like needing to take a break for school and to prevent burn-out.
buddy, we raid one day a week. twice at most. you don't even work on your paper until the day before it's due.
you barely study for your remedial math exam, and you came out with a 50.
you fall asleep mid-raid when you ask for a 10 minute break to go to the washroom... and we end up waiting 45-to-an-hour for when you wake up on the toiler seat or something.
i understand that school is tiring, but there is something wrong with the way you're forming your schedule.
there's something wrong with you drinking alcohol in the middle of raid, or during school, and you know all this.
i have to organize this raid for your ass, because you care for the game and everybody finds you're generally cool to be around. i like having you for our social anecdotes, and you're a lazy POS who still camera pans with WASD keys and loses aggro as a tank to the stupidest shit.

and this is the experience more or less (much less) that i have with every person in our raid, minus three.
ignorance is bliss. this idiom never played out to my advantage, because nothing would have taken off if i didn't try to form this raid group and subsequent community around it.

i would be in some raid group with some guy or girl screaming down my neck about mistakes i did or didn't make if i hadn't originally met some of these people i was with until just recently.

the way i chose to shape things towards the group disbanding was frankly awful and uncalled for.
actually, i believe they're things any raid leader would have done.
but it wasn't me, and it was sudden.
i wanted things to lighten up and look like what i was always hoping it would be---partially the things i've been trying to team-build into, else i would leave alone.

my motto while playing that game with one of my good friends (in another raid) is,
'less talk, more do.' much like nike's branding, or something an experienced veteran would utter to someone fresh for comfort.
except i'm not experienced, not in the way i won't regret.
the night we sat here and disbanded, i was indirectly told to stop talking nicely and stop beating around the bush about the real issue of negativity in our group. apparently everyone was mostly talking about each other in private--about displeasure, grievances, me.
there was this girlfriend with whom i never officially broke up with. we just stopped contacting each other, and i constantly think about her. i will never be able to apologize to her and offer support, or wish her luck as a friend anymore.
and it's because i wrapped myself and spent way too much time outside of work trying to foster something that wasn't there, or had a slim chance of forming:
team chemistry for a raid group within a dumb mmorpg.

why the hell didn't i give up sooner? the answer is quite simple; because you guys never said you were giving up.
the belief in the idea of existentialism and wanting to treat strangers like they were friends--believing what they want you to believe--meant that i met and had wonderful friends like you. everything we had to say each other outside of a serious environment was funny and thoughtful.
working together, we were selfish and truly absurd sects of people.
i've once heard someone very important to me say that they're angry before they're sad,
but for anything relatable that i feel for those emotions, i am now just sad and melancholic.

i'm sorry for the long-ass post. thank you.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
December 27 2014 15:43 GMT
#3479
On December 27 2014 19:55 ninazerg wrote:
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I hate when some douchewad has to step into the middle of something good and just shit on it and ruin it for everyone just because.


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Fucking TL
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
December 27 2014 16:18 GMT
#3480
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chuck palahniuk's novels are always better as movies.

Not necessarily a complaint, but whatever.

Also, Choke is a neat little film, but lacks any kind of satisfying conclusion.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
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