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On June 06 2011 03:52 Kazius wrote:
If it was two 15 year old boys stripping an 11 year old girl and posting it on youtube, reactions would be different. Throw the girls in jail for kiddie porn laws.
Women want to be equal, right?
Exactly right, the boys would be branded as sex fiends for life and punished extremely severely if not jailed.
Bunch of girls doing it to a boy? Just a joke that got out of hand.
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There's the contact info for the girls school. I suggest we all give them a call and ask the principal why he allows girls like that in his school.
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On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such.
I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls.
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On June 05 2011 14:43 Hakker wrote:
Justice? punishment? they just took the kids clothes off lol
if anything in 5 years he'll look back on how lucky he was.
You're an extremely coldhearted bastard if that is really what you think. God I hate people like you who try to be so incredibly god damn macho.
Jesus how does your brain work man. Most offensive post on TL for a while.
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erm so we are going to spread equality to anatomy as well?
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I understand why the mother isn't pressing chargers -- something like that can ruin the girls' futures and may be more trouble than what it's worth for the boy. We don't know how traumatized the boy actually is from this. Yes, this is unacceptable, it was an awful decision from the girls, and they should be punished, but it's understandable for the parent not to want to press charges.
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On June 06 2011 06:15 Brethern wrote:
There's the contact info for the girls school. I suggest we all give them a call and ask the principal why he allows girls like that in his school.
This isn't 4 chan and I highly doubt spamming their phone line will accomplish very much. Why blame the school, they can't do anything if it happened off school grounds.
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On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls.
I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it.
The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power in relation to the boys that you compete with being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect.
Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it.
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This is ridiculous, like some of you said, imagine the opposite situation with boys stripping a young girl and what punishment they would get, now apply that same punishment to this girls if you want to talk about equality
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On June 06 2011 06:32 `Forte wrote:
I understand why the mother isn't pressing chargers -- something like that can ruin the girls' futures and may be more trouble than what it's worth for the boy. We don't know how traumatized the boy actually is from this. Yes, this is unacceptable, it was an awful decision from the girls, and they should be punished, but it's understandable for the parent not to want to press charges.
They should have their lives "destroyed" over this. Atleast they should face legal action. Their parents having to pay a huge fine or something of the sort. What they did is comparable to sexual assault. They should be punished for it. As should any boy that did this to a girl.
If you really think this is no big deal then tell yourself what you would think if this was 2 older boys doing this to a young girl. And PLEASE do not tell me that you would find that acceptable.
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On June 06 2011 06:32 shinosai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:15 Brethern wrote:
There's the contact info for the girls school. I suggest we all give them a call and ask the principal why he allows girls like that in his school. This isn't 4 chan and I highly doubt spamming their phone line will accomplish very much. Why blame the school, they can't do anything if it happened off school grounds.
My thoughts exactly. I also agree with other peoples thoughts on the reversed gender roles. If three older boys did this to a girl they'd probably be thrown juvie and gone down on the sex offenders list. However, the mother didn't press charges, and her words were "harmless prank", not the opinion of the school board (regardless of whether they are involved) or the court, or otherwise disciplinary enacters.
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those girls are young... give them another chance. is the kid hurt? doubtful...
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On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it.
Some kids undoubtably enjoys having sex with their teachers or incest sex or whatever at a young age. Them liking it doesn't make pedophilia or incest ok. The whole point is that they are not mature enugh physically AND mentally to understand what kind of effect that stuff will have on them. As for this boy. He very clearly did not want this.
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On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it.
And who will act to stop the bullying in this case. Certainly not the people who think its okay what they do just because they were girls. Thats a double-standard, and sexist. Implying that the girls themselves didnt have sexual motives is just an assumption based on the image that young girls are SUPPOSED to be the innocent, while the boys at this age are supposed to be the ones that get ugly and try to satisfy their growing sexuality is sexism. If you stand for gender equality, you cannot stand for not punishing those girls the same way as if the situation was reversed. And even when i say i think gender equality is an important part, i would respect people more that didnt want the girls to get punished to just say they dont care about gender equality. At least that would be honest.
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On June 06 2011 06:40 StarBrift wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it. Some kids undoubtably enjoys having sex with their teachers or incest sex or whatever at a young age. Them liking it doesn't make pedophilia or incest ok. The whole point is that they are not mature enugh physically AND mentally to understand what kind of effect that stuff will have on them. As for this boy. He very clearly did not want this.
You bringing in an unrelated example does nothing but skew our debate. Statutory rape has nothing to do with this - it wasn't even directly sexual. That issue goes much deeper and has much more heavy-weighing reasons behind the legislation.
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As far as legislation goes, in general nudity, unless classified as art, is typically considered to be sexual in nature. When you see a dick or boobs in a movie, that's adult/sexual content, even if all they're doing is taking a shower. I don't really see how stripping someone over the age of 5 in public can be considered anything but sexual.
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Ugh. Come on. I didn't have an easy time in school. I hated it. I literally fought my way through school and high school. I hate these stories of people being victimized and bullies getting away without a scratch. The mother should press charges, and it's no minor thing. I hate that in school people can live like assholes and nothing ever happens to them.
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On June 06 2011 06:39 IzieBoy wrote:
those girls are young... give them another chance. is the kid hurt? doubtful...
How in the world can you read through the OP and think that the boy probably wasn't hurt? Try to put yourself in his shoes, and knowing you have to go back to a school where everyone has seen you get humiliated by 3 girls and stripped naked.
Its easy to be macho as a grownup. If 3 girls attacked and stripped me, I'd probably enjoy it. But for a 11 year old boy, its traumatizing.
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On June 06 2011 06:42 ChinaRestaurant wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it. And who will act to stop the bullying in this case. Certainly not the people who think its okay what they do just because they were girls. Thats a double-standard, and sexist. Implying that the girls themselves didnt have sexual motives is just an assumption based on the image that young girls are SUPPOSED to be the innocent, while the boys at this age are supposed to be the ones that get ugly and try to satisfy their growing sexuality is sexism. If you stand for gender equality, you cannot stand for not punishing those girls the same way as if the situation was reversed. And even when i say i think gender equality is an important part, i would respect people more that didnt want the girls to get punished to just say they dont care about gender equality. At least that would be honest.
gender equality certainly should hold in the job market (esp. white collar)... it would be strange to have unilateral equality though...are we going to take away maternal leave, rights of pregnant women to not only breast-feed in public but just go shirtless? it's common sense that them stripping a kid against his will is different than 3 dudes stripping a defenseless girl (the latter case, victim has a high chance of getting hurt, murdered historically.) it's not just a video exploitation when the victim is female. yes, let's just forget everything about anatomy.
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On June 06 2011 06:42 ChinaRestaurant wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote:
I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it. And who will act to stop the bullying in this case. Certainly not the people who think its okay what they do just because they were girls. Thats a double-standard, and sexist. Implying that the girls themselves didnt have sexual motives is just an assumption based on the image that young girls are SUPPOSED to be the innocent, while the boys at this age are supposed to be the ones that get ugly and try to satisfy their growing sexuality. If you stand for gender equality, you cannot stand for not punishing those girls the same way as if the situation was reversed. And even when i say i think gender equality is an important part, i would respect people more that didnt want the girls to get punished to just say they dont care about gender equality. At least that would be honest.
Yes, intepretations are inevitably based on assumptions. These assumptions come from our intuition, and our intuition is the sum of our past experiences. As such, this is what makes basis for almost all actions that any person carries out. Has nothing to do with double standards. As said, often the reaction to boys doing something similar would be an overreaction. Not due to a gender bias, but simply from whatever rationale you act upon. Just like, today, terrorists are treated much worse that other citizens in the eye of the law rather than equals.
I'm not sure what you mean about who will stop bullying. This is no different from any other case of bullying. The relates parties will make an effort to stop the bullying. Be that whether it is parents, the school, fellow students, interest organizations or government professionals.
There is no use of people screaming "equality!" at everything. Consider the different actions and what effects they would have. This is not much different from the people in Denmark who are considering to force companies by law to have at least 50% women in the board of directors, non-compliance being met by being forcefully dissolved. All in the name of equality. If you just think of it in terms of even line, numbers and percentages, you won't get far ...
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