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On June 05 2011 14:46 vetinari wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:43 Hakker wrote:
Justice? punishment? they just took the kids clothes off lol
if anything in 5 years he'll look back on how lucky he was.
3 14 year old boys forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old girl, and they go on the sex offenders register. 3 14 year old girls forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old boy, and its a harmless prank that maybe got a little bit out of hand.
thats the thing
justice is f-in rubbish regarding such things
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The mother probably did the same thing to some kid when she was growing up. I like the double standard.
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boys do not forget and they do not forgive. itll come a day when the tables will turn...
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On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote:
Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
lol
if you are 11 years old and never had a real punch-up you arent able to defend yourself
even a 14 or 15 year old would have had problems defending himself against 3 agressive girls like that
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People are focusing too much on the "3 girls stripped an 11yr old boy down *teehee*" aspect of this story and keep leaving out that he was BEAT UP in the process. It's plain violence plain and simple, 3 big kids picking on 1 smaller kid. Worse, it was all filmed and posted on YouTube to boot so all his friends, and his kids, and grandkids may find it one day and laugh at his face for years to come. (like anyone is going to permanently delete such a video from existence? Ha.)
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This is a very delicate matter, as gender roles are still very specific. I myself have been bullied quite a bit in primary school (mostly because I was smart, I wanted to know everything, and wanted to let everyone else know what I knew, IE being a bit of a smartass, although I wasn't aware of it.). When the popular dudes started, the popular gals took it on too. They called me 'krentenbol (raisin bun)' because I had a few birthmarks on my face. The teachers usually didn't do jack shit (I don't blame them for it, gl trying to tell parents nowadays that their kids aren't perfect), other than to have the boys apologize. The girls could carry on as they liked. It had an impact on my life, as far as that in high school I was depressed for the first 2/3. I don't know if that was puberty or the bullying, but whatever.
The thing is, when I got out of being depressed and started to appreciate myself, things turned out great. I'm currently on my way to a BA in mech engineering, and when I visit the hometown where my parents live, I hear that some of the bullies didn't even finish high school.
TL;DR: That which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. I was bullied for ~5 years, got depressed, came out of it feeling better than ever about myself.
Now to the actual thread:
If women really want to be equal to men, they deserve the same punishment for the same shit. If they want to keep it this way, fine, but don't bitch about there being too many men working as CEO's or anything like that.
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Some people here make it sound like those girls could have faced some severe punishment, had the mother raised charges.
I'm quite unfamiliar with US laws, but where I live, at 14, 'a slap on the wrist' is the most you could get for something like this.
In the end, this was nothing remarkably sever.
Bullying happens - you can find more extreme videos online (kids setting others kids to fire, girls throwing bricks at someone, etc.).
There is really no good solution to this either.
Separating such children form others (say special schools), tends to have exactly the opposite effect.
Fine the parents?
Death penalty?
Meh. In the end, most people do grow out of this.
The saddest thing here is, that this incident made it to news.
I wonder who's brilliant idea was that.
With just the youtuble clip, few people at school might have laughed over him.
Now this kid is guaranteed to be bullied till high school at best.
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On June 05 2011 14:46 Sephy69 wrote:
Don't know what's wrong with the mother, but people these days are just too nice. I would have hated my mother and given her shit for a long time if she didn't press charges.
I would do it the other way around. I would definately not want to go to some court and to make all the fuzz about this if I was that boy to be labeled as the naked guy for the rest of my local school life.
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Nice family values they seem have. What a dip shit bitch of a mother.
That kid is going to be emotionally scarred for years to come. Vendetta on the girls tbh.
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Hey guys, time for a newsflash. Hormonal children who know no better do stupid things. While this is kind of the extreme side of that, It's not the first time a kids been bullied hard and at least here in the American South it's commonplace for bullying like that to take place when little kids run around by themselves.
Not that it's good when it happens but bullying has always happened and always will. Thats how kids with mean-streaks who think things like this are ok, learn whats acceptable in civilized society. By doing stupid childish things like tearing of little Tommys clothes because in their mind it was ok, getting caught, and getting their asses tore up by their parents.
For all we know, that little boy was hurling juvenile insults at those girls and they just acted out for payback when they realized they were strong enough to hold him down. While this obviously isn't acceptable behavior, It's also the kind of thing that when it happens, and is brought to the attention of the parents, punishment is most effectively handed out by those same parents. Whether it be ass whoopings or however else you and the other parent deem fit to discipline your children.
Honestly, has no one on this forum been through the American Public School System? Any kid who played outside before they found Starcraft probably has a similar story.
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Little pieces of shit need to be punished as far as it can go, that's ridiculous behavior and the mother should be far more pissed off than what her statement showed. I was assaulted by far older people a little younger than this kid and it had a lasting impression on me that took a long time to shake and shit like this should never be taken lightly. That is one pathetic mother that's all I have to say, my mother would have kicked ass if she had known I was being bullied hardcore but this woman seems to not even really care even with video footage to back it up.
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The difference between 3 guys doing this to a girl and the other way around is the more often than not the guys intention's were of a sexual nature...... you can't say the same thing about girls.
Good on his mum for not pressing charges, this should be dealt with by the girls parents and not in a court of law. I'll bet most of the people who are saying the mother is stupid aren't parents themselves, going thru a court proceeding would only do further damage to her child and really isn't needed anyhow
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On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote:
Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Okay, this guy wins the Biggest Fucking Douche Award.
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This is some fucked up shit. I hope at least the girl's parents are smart enough to see this for what it is.
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Its pretty easy. Older brother get some friends and do what they did too the kid. Might not be friendly, But talking or anything else isnt enough. Look @ casey. It stopped coz he acted and is a public hero.
Im not saying its the right move to do, But the only way to stop all of this shit is make them realize how bad it is to do this to kids.
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If either of those girls were mine child abuse laws or not that girl would have the reddest bottom in the world along with a lack of any electronic device for about 6 months.
That is completely unacceptable and I agree with parents dealing with it provided they are responsible parents, which I am betting they are not.
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On June 05 2011 21:23 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 19:23 Nanoko wrote:
First: Puberty typically begins,regardless of sex, between 10-13, so saying that the kid "most likely hasn't begun puberty" is completely wrong, and without evidence of him either not going through puberty, or going through it is irrelevant to your point.
im pretty sure that the general case is that girls start puberty at 11, boys start at 12. and their affects are only apparent when girls are 12 and boys are 13.
"Although there is a wide range of normal ages, girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11; boys at age 12 or 13."
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On June 05 2011 22:31 emythrel wrote:
The difference between 3 guys doing this to a girl and the other way around is the more often than not the guys intention's were of a sexual nature...... you can't say the same thing about girls.
Good on his mum for not pressing charges, this should be dealt with by the girls parents and not in a court of law. I'll bet most of the people who are saying the mother is stupid aren't parents themselves, going thru a court proceeding would only do further damage to her child and really isn't needed anyhow
What does it matter if their intentions were sexual or not. I agree that boys tend to do more of sex related stuff but that just means the girls should be charged for something else. Maybe distrubuting child pornography would be a good enough lesson? Abuse? Why does it has to be rape charges or nothing.
The fact that they weren't getting aroused by it (and you can't be sure they didn't) doesn't mean it's ok and should just let the parents handle it.
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I think the boy will take a stick and break their legs next time he sees them. At least, thats what I would do.
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