EPT8th grade Girls Attack/Strip 11-Year-Old Boy - Page 17
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Fuckyeah
17 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:19 kerpal wrote: this is a little absurd. there's a reason that 3 14-year-old guys stripping a girl would be treated differently... it would be TOTALLY different. not to say this isn't horrible and absurd that they'd do it, but don't say it should be treated the same, that's the kind of thing that gets people punished way out of proportion to their crimes. Oh, so females should not be punished for doing the exact same thing which will get a male a punishment. Sounds legit | ||
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kmkkmk
Germany418 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:26 Jergen wrote: Welcome to the 21st century. We care for the sick, look after the infirm, and tend for the weak. This started happening about the time when the Homo genus came down from trees and started walking upright. Perhaps you should catch the fuck up. Thank you for this post. I was shaking with anger about jaybee's post, yet you made see that not all hope is lost. Thank you for showing me that there are still good people in this world. | ||
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DropTester
Australia608 Posts
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piegasm
United States266 Posts
I don't know if I'd call myself a feminist simply because too many people who call themselves that are actually more about female superiority rather than equality. I am female though and I totally agree. If three 14 year old boys had done this to an 11 year old girl nobody would be going "oh kids will be kids". I doubt there would be any question of whether to press charges. I can appreciate the mother wanting the girls' parents to handle the punishment but I just wouldn't trust them. These are the people who raised a bunch of girls who thought this kind of thing would be funny. Let them see what happens to people who prey on those weaker than themselves. Even more messed up is the fact that, the way it happened is closer to adults molesting a child than if you reversed things. Girls start puberty younger than boys generally so while an 11 year old boy is still prepubescent with another 7-8 years of growing left to do, a 14 year old girl is well into puberty if not finished and has nearly reached her full adult size. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
I remember when I was 11-12, me and a girl locked ourself in on the toilet and striped naked. We didn't do anything, just looked at each other. Then two other kidds joined us. We just didn't understand how in the world of adults that was not accepted. And I don't think I'm a nymphomaniac or something, lol. This case is of course not the same thing - but my point is that kids don't see those things as adults do. I think it depends a lot on the age of the girls: I thought they were 13-14, if they are like 16, I understand much better the outrage this has created. In any case the girls shoud of course be corrected, I just strongly believe that a court case for a 13 year-old usually is a bad thing. | ||
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kmkkmk
Germany418 Posts
On June 05 2011 16:10 jaybee2 wrote: Here is my reasoning please call me idiot, but also tell me what you disagree with. Bullying happens for a reason. The reason is evolutionary. (all social animals do it) Because it happens for a reason there is a way to avoid it. Instead of attacking the bullies it would be more practical to learn not how to bullied. On the contrary. It is impossible (and impractical) to teach every potential victim in advance how to not get bullied (However I find nothing wrong with teaching people how to defend themselves). Yet your point of view is misleading to me. You are confusing the victims and the offenders guilt. Many humans consider it wrong when the strong bully the weak. We feel, that it is the offenders fault and he should be punished. You seem to believe that it is the victims fault for not being prepared. Even if there were some truths to your opinion, your priorities are fucked up and your presentation lacks an explanation on how to sort your view into the big picture. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:24 phodacbiet wrote: for those people thinking that this is just "a little prank", put yourself in his shoes. What if YOU were the one getting stripped by 3 girls (lets assume these 3 girls are ugly and their faces are covered with creep tumors and other diseases so you people dont get horny off of this), then imagine them posting the video of them stripping you just so everyone, and by everyone i mean EVERYONE ( friends, mom, dog, brothers, relatives, idiots u hate) can see your little 2 inchers. I dont think anyone would be happy with that or call that "a little prank teehee". No, combatex spelling EZ in pylons is a little prank, this kid probably will never be able to trust another girl because everytime he sees one he probably picture this event. This will take years of therapy to cure and i believe these 3 girls should face jail time. lol creep tumors. I love how this is still a starcraft forum~~ I think what is most appropriate in this situation is for the girls to undergo some sort of disciplinary behavior, like a program or something, because the kind of person that does something like this is not a properly functioning member of society, and perhaps has some serious issues lurking underneath. I'd like to see this issue get taken further, but without any considerations to gender. | ||
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Torumfroll
290 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:10 Elroi wrote: intelligent mother to not press charges against that young girls. It would probably destroy their lives and make them much worse. It was just a prank - albeit it went too far. You cannot compare male nudity and female nudity in our society. Female nudity is a much more sensitive matter. Did you even watch the news video? That was not a prank, that was assault. If you were a parent and saw your kid in a video like that, how would you react? I sure as hell would not just let it go like that kids mother did and let their parents discipline them. The perpetrators were 14 years old, which in my opinion is old enough to be held responsible for criminal activities. They knew what they were doing and thus should face the consequences for it. And what the fuck is up with that nudity argument? I was under the impression that we are living in an equal society, so why would female nudity be any different to male nudity? Being physically assaulted, forcibly stripped naked and video taped, and then having the video posted online for EVERYONE to see is equally humiliating regardless of the victims gender. | ||
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AlphaWhale
Australia328 Posts
This is a prank (as cruel as it may be) with plenty of shock value. | ||
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qazadex
Australia473 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:23 Nanoko wrote: First: Puberty typically begins,regardless of sex, between 10-13, so saying that the kid "most likely hasn't begun puberty" is completely wrong, and without evidence of him either not going through puberty, or going through it is irrelevant to your point. Second: Saying that "if three boys strip down a girl, it's inductive reasoning that they may be horny as hell during the act"...once again irrelevant, unless of course you're suggesting that Women don't get sexually aroused either, during puberty women can get just as "horny" as men, saying that three older boys doing this to a younger girl would be more damaging to her is also complete nonsense because, as I said above, boys are going through Puberty at about the same time as girls, give or take a year depending on your genes.... So they're both Equally likely to be traumatized from the event. As for your last point....I feel like you're just saying that 14 year old kids are just a bunch of horny potential rapists because they produce more testosterone and "don't know how to control their sexual urges".... As for the whole "if this were 3 guys doing this to a girl" thing, of course they'd face a harsher punishment then these girls. Sad but true, it's unfortunate as well that this only happens because female rapists hardly ever get reported, I mean how many of YOU would report being raped by a girl?? it happens a lot more then people would think...I'd write a reference link down or something but too tired and lazy  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Child_development_stages.svg It's very possible that the kid has not hit puberty. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:08 Elroi wrote: How old are the girls? I can understnad pressing charges against them if they are 16 or older. Otherwise they probably didn't understand the gravity of what they did. And I think a court process would make much more damage than good. Not because of the punichment, because of the process. It also depends on the nature of the crime: if it was just one incident or if it was part of a systematic abuse. I remember when I was 11-12, me and a girl locked ourself in on the toilet and striped naked. We didn't do anything, just looked at each other. Then two other kidds joined us. We just didn't understand how in the world of adults that was not accepted. And I don't think I'm a nymphomaniac or something, lol. This case is of course not the same thing - but my point is that kids don't see those things as adults do. I think it depends a lot on the age of the girls: I thought they were 13-14, if they are like 16, I understand much better the outrage this has created. In any case the girls shoud of course be corrected, I just strongly believe that a court case for a 13 year-old usually is a bad thing. The boy was 11 and the girls 14. I agree that they shouldn't be charged for rape or anything to that extent but just letting this go as a prank sends a powerful message to the girls and the boy to what is allowed and stripping a 11 old child in public, video taping it and putting it on youtube really shouldn't fall into "allowed" category. | ||
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L0thar
987 Posts
And what a great lesson for the boy. You can be publicly abused and humiliated by stronger people...and nothing happens to them! I'm sure he will become a self-confident man with no trust issues whatsoever. I wonder how the older brother feels about it. I know I would have a lot of troubles letting the girls go without punishment after what happened. Not saying I would do anything to them...but not saying I wouldn't. | ||
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:08 Elroi wrote: How old are the girls? I can understnad pressing charges against them if they are 16 or older. Otherwise they probably didn't understand the gravity of what they did. And I think a court process would make much more damage than good. Not because of the punichment, because of the process. It also depends on the nature of the crime: if it was just one incident or if it was part of a systematic abuse. I remember when I was 11-12, me and a girl locked ourself in on the toilet and striped naked. We didn't do anything, just looked at each other. Then two other kidds joined us. We just didn't understand how in the world of adults that was not accepted. And I don't think I'm a nymphomaniac or something, lol. This case is of course not the same thing - but my point is that kids don't see those things as adults do. I think it depends a lot on the age of the girls: I thought they were 13-14, if they are like 16, I understand much better the outrage this has created. In any case the girls shoud of course be corrected, I just strongly believe that a court case for a 13 year-old usually is a bad thing. yeah, but they didnt film it and put it on youtube did they? | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:23 Nanoko wrote: First: Puberty typically begins,regardless of sex, between 10-13, so saying that the kid "most likely hasn't begun puberty" is completely wrong, and without evidence of him either not going through puberty, or going through it is irrelevant to your point. im pretty sure that the general case is that girls start puberty at 11, boys start at 12. and their affects are only apparent when girls are 12 and boys are 13. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
The mother should have pressed charges in my opinion, but the only reason the girls are getting away clean is because she's allowing them to. Had the mother pressed charges I'm sure people would be saying that the girls earned their punishment. | ||
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:23 saltywet wrote: im pretty sure that the general case is that girls start puberty at 11, boys start at 12. and their affects are only apparent when girls are 12 and boys are 13. From the wiki. You can't really say if they started puberty or not. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Child_development_stages.svg) | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:43 phosphorylation wrote: I like the mom's response though. Yeah, smart mother.. Putting these kids into a courtroom is so wrong.. | ||
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TT-boi
Sweden2 Posts
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:32 Zdrastochye wrote: I don't know why people are pointing out that if you switch the genders, it's a much more serious crime. Isn't that completely obvious? Do you think it's the same thing when girls strip guys as when guys strip girls? Not in the slightest. The mother should have pressed charges in my opinion, but the only reason the girls are getting away clean is because she's allowing them to. Had the mother pressed charges I'm sure people would be saying that the girls earned their punishment. Except that the police said they only could charge it as misdemeanor which really isn't a serious thing. So even if the mother would press the issue it woulnd't be taken as seriously as if the roles were reversed. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2011 21:37 TT-boi wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkiQRB0P-5c Even thought you're probably going to get banned or warned because of just posting a silly youtube video, it's not even the same thing. The boy didn't have sex with an older girl, he got stripped naked against his will and the video got posted on youtube. Hardly worthy of "nice" even in South Park world. | ||
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