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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
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On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:08 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:05 Drewx wrote: Wow crazy times we live in. These scenes from the States look crazy would never expect to see anything like that where I live. If Australia were put into the exact circumstances that the US is currently, the reaction would be exactly the same. We aren't monsters for celebrating the death of a monster. ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead.
Why can't I report you for trolling damnit
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On May 02 2011 16:27 FireSA wrote: Don't be idiots, really, that is like being told off for celebrating the death of Hitler.
In this case, the analogy really is appropriate.
It's sad that people think we should respect the humanity of someone who is completely inhumane.
"Osama was a child with parents and hopes and dreams". Grow up! Yes he was a child once, and then he stopped being a child. He decided to spend his "hopes and dreams" and family inheritance -- millions of dollars a year -- to fund the murdering of innocent children around the world.
You don't want to celebrate the fact that a man that plainly evil is dead, be my guest. Your wonderful altruism is a real asset to humanity -- unless it comes to actually having to fight for something.
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On May 02 2011 16:31 cdhstarbuck wrote:This. Just posting because I am happy. lol win
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On May 02 2011 16:30 SHr3DD3r wrote:It is pretty much gonna get worse. The 'new' leader will obviously have something to prove imo. And I bet he will be more 'proactive'. I guess I will be in some serious shit now lol. As it is Pakistan isn't safe atm  .
I feel you, buddy.
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He was avoiding justice and succeeded. No justice was served, just vengeance. The justice system is one of the foundation of our civilization and yet very few person understand why even the most disgusting criminal should have a trial.
Anyway, happy news indeed, I don't think you could have brought that guy to justice.
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He was employed by the US government for a long period of time with the CIA during the soviet afghan war.
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I like how people seem to think this matters at all. Other than good PR for the Obama administration, nothing changes in the long run.
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pakistani officials MUST have known a bout his whereabouts theres no way in hell that he lived there since 2005 in a 1 million dollar mansion in a wealthy neighbourhood without anyone knowing. no way.
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Lol apparently the press conference was during Celebrety Apprentice (Donald Trump's reality show). Reddit came up with this nugget
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On May 02 2011 16:29 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:26 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:On May 02 2011 16:08 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:05 Drewx wrote: Wow crazy times we live in. These scenes from the States look crazy would never expect to see anything like that where I live. If Australia were put into the exact circumstances that the US is currently, the reaction would be exactly the same. We aren't monsters for celebrating the death of a monster. ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead. You're a fool if you actually feel this way. Sure, he was a man, just like you and me, but that is where the similarities end. He was human, but there was no humanity about him. I celebrate his death because he deserved to die, and that is undeniable. with the same reasoning people in the middle east celebrated the death of the 9/11 victims. I guess the difference is they are wrong and you are right, isnt it?
What if the people seen celebrating had family or friends who died in the 9/11 attacks? Shouldn't they be happy then that their family/friends' killer was brought to justice? Or should they just take it with a straight face and show no emotion whatsoever, even though they had personal connections to deaths from a terrorist attack? Maybe you're the one who's being insensitive by telling other people how they should be reacting when they could potentially have a HUGE emotional investment in this whole thing, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, children, loved friends dead. Ever think about that?
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"Durrr, you're trolling." Well thought out retort guys. I said nothing that isn't true.
If his death brings more peace to the world then that's great but I am not going to celebrate someone's death, let alone the death of someone I didn't know.
On May 02 2011 16:35 Angra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:29 diehilde wrote:On May 02 2011 16:26 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:On May 02 2011 16:08 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:05 Drewx wrote: Wow crazy times we live in. These scenes from the States look crazy would never expect to see anything like that where I live. If Australia were put into the exact circumstances that the US is currently, the reaction would be exactly the same. We aren't monsters for celebrating the death of a monster. ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead. You're a fool if you actually feel this way. Sure, he was a man, just like you and me, but that is where the similarities end. He was human, but there was no humanity about him. I celebrate his death because he deserved to die, and that is undeniable. with the same reasoning people in the middle east celebrated the death of the 9/11 victims. I guess the difference is they are wrong and you are right, isnt it? What if the people seen celebrating had family or friends who died in the 9/11 attacks? Shouldn't they be happy then that their family/friends' killer was brought to justice? Or should they just take it with a straight face and show no emotion whatsoever, even though they had personal connections to deaths from a terrorist attack? Maybe you're the one who's being insensitive by telling other people how they should be reacting when they could potentially have a HUGE emotional investment in this whole thing, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, children, loved friends. Ever think about that?
Those people would be celebrating in the name of revenge. And while that's common, it's definitely on the undesirable side when it comes to behavior.
Anyways, most of these people were not that emotionally invested.
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Hes dead but unfortunately his ideas live on.
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celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims
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On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims
lol i kinda feel this way too
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On May 02 2011 16:29 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:26 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:On May 02 2011 16:08 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:05 Drewx wrote: Wow crazy times we live in. These scenes from the States look crazy would never expect to see anything like that where I live. If Australia were put into the exact circumstances that the US is currently, the reaction would be exactly the same. We aren't monsters for celebrating the death of a monster. ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead. You're a fool if you actually feel this way. Sure, he was a man, just like you and me, but that is where the similarities end. He was human, but there was no humanity about him. I celebrate his death because he deserved to die, and that is undeniable. with the same reasoning people in the middle east celebrated the death of the 9/11 victims. I guess the difference is they are wrong and you are right, isnt it?
Exactly, because prior to 9/11 what exactly did we, the American people, do, that even remotely amounts to the death of thousands of their people? Why did the thousands killed in 9/11 deserve to die? Because they were American? If that's your answer, what about the Canadians killed?
I'm sorry. You are an idiot if you can't see the difference between celebrating the deaths of a thousand innocents and celebrating the death of the man responsible for theirs.
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On May 02 2011 16:35 Angra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:29 diehilde wrote:On May 02 2011 16:26 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:On May 02 2011 16:08 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:05 Drewx wrote: Wow crazy times we live in. These scenes from the States look crazy would never expect to see anything like that where I live. If Australia were put into the exact circumstances that the US is currently, the reaction would be exactly the same. We aren't monsters for celebrating the death of a monster. ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead. You're a fool if you actually feel this way. Sure, he was a man, just like you and me, but that is where the similarities end. He was human, but there was no humanity about him. I celebrate his death because he deserved to die, and that is undeniable. with the same reasoning people in the middle east celebrated the death of the 9/11 victims. I guess the difference is they are wrong and you are right, isnt it? What if the people seen celebrating had family or friends who died in the 9/11 attacks? Shouldn't they be happy then that their family/friends' killer was brought to justice? Or should they just take it with a straight face and show no emotion whatsoever, even though they had personal connections to deaths from a terrorist attack? Maybe you're the one who's being insensitive by telling other people how they should be reacting when they could potentially have a HUGE emotional investment in this whole thing, ever think about that? read carefully. im not saying people cant be happy, especially if the are emotionally involved. but going out, drinking champaign and party over a mans death is tasteless. There is a line between being happy and mass celebrating.
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As interesting as Osama's supposed death is, I'm much more interested about when all the extra anti-terrorism security measures are going to be scaled back. It's annoying to have all the Patriot Act and all the TSA security measures still up and running.
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On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims
What's with all the insensitive Germans in this thread?
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On May 02 2011 16:32 0x64 wrote: He was avoiding justice and succeeded. No justice was served, just vengeance. The justice system is one of the foundation of our civilization and yet very few person understand why even the most disgusting criminal should have a trial.
Anyway, happy news indeed, I don't think you could have brought that guy to justice.
Well his penalty was death and he got it, just in an informal way. So i would say justice has been served
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