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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
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On May 02 2011 16:39 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims I really am curious why German posters continue to shit all over this. It is what it is. If you expected anything different you are naive. If you think this wouldn't be done by any country in the world in similar circumstances you are naive. I like the fact he is dead. Be a hater if you want but it doesn't change the fact the allied forces have just achieved one of their main objectives. That alone warrants celebration.
Its exactly what i exspected from you. That makes it not better. The fact that you want to tell me indirectly that i cant talk in this thread ebcause im not from the US (lol) shows who is naive here. Its just propaganda, but everybody knows it, bind a banana on a band on a tree and the monkey will look for the sky if he is hungry. =)
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On May 02 2011 16:38 cynical wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims What's with all the insensitive Germans in this thread?
In the apologetic post-WW2 Germany it's cool to pretend you are ever merciful and infinitely civil.
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On May 02 2011 16:44 Dakota wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims Yea, I sure hope no one celebrated Hitler's death, since he was only one person >_>
Please stop comparing Osama to Hitler, there is no comparision whatsoever.
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trolladay trolladoh trolladee la la something
i think some germans like willes resent the US because among other reasons after the war we really sat on western germany until we needed them to have a good army to possibly help fight the soviets with. allied soldiers were trained to regard the german people as enemies and to treat them as such and the germans themselves were told that they had to prove they were civilized before they would be allowed to rejoin the civilized world, shit like that.
and then for decades afterward the german government never really said "it happened X years ago we need to move past the guilt and stop being imprisoned by it" and some people blame that on the americans too, while they see us going around the world being bullies
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On May 02 2011 16:22 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:05 Probulous wrote:On May 02 2011 15:59 diehilde wrote: apparently people gathered in front of the white house and on ground zero to celebrate bin ladens death. disgusting imo. This is insensitive. The man was responsible for over 3000 US deaths in an unprovoked attack. He was no angel. Yes, there may have been a better way to punish him but by all accounts he died in a shoot-out. In addition, even if he was caught, he would have been found guilty and executed. To rain on people's parade because you object to the method of achieving the same outcome is insensitive. Particularly for those at ground zero. There may be a reason they are celebrating. To all americans, enjoy today. I dont care what he did, celebrating the death of a human being is tasteless. you can be relieved because of the consequences, you can celebrate when a war is over or al qaeda disbands or smth. but celebrating the death of someone is just absurd. especially because it doesnt mean the end of terror, if anything it means more terror attacks.
Emotions can get absurd. Sometimes we fall in love with people that are bad for us. Do we listen when people tell us to get the fuck out of that relationship? No, we say you don't understand. You might think it's tasteless and I'm sure the same people celebrating now over Osama's death would feel the same way if it was someone else. But it's hard to feel bad when you've lost loved ones to the people currently pronounced dead and no amount of thinking for some is enough to make them not want to celebrate.
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On May 02 2011 16:46 DannyJ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:38 cynical wrote:On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims What's with all the insensitive Germans in this thread? In the apologetic post-WW2 Germany it's cool to pretend you are ever merciful and infinitely civil.
You re not better then the ppl you like to see dead, but i think you dont understand that.
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On May 02 2011 16:46 Aurocaido wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:44 Dakota wrote:On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims Yea, I sure hope no one celebrated Hitler's death, since he was only one person >_> Please stop comparing Osama to Hitler, there is no comparision whatsoever.
They were both tyrants who killed innocents because of what they believed. So it's a fair comparison.
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On May 02 2011 16:44 discipled_iu wrote: Any sort of rejoicing over someone's death, terrorist or not, really is pretty ignorant. If we are to maintain in high regard one person's life we can't treat someone else's as worthless. Otherwise we are as good as that terrorist.
Absurd statement. For starters it wouldn't be ignorant (ironic or hypocritical at best) since it is based on the knowledge of what he did.
Second, we make value judgements (we being everybody on the planet) every day. This is no different.
Third, celebrating the death of a terrorist and being a terrorist because of that celebration lacks any sort of logical connection.
Did people bitch this much when Sadam was hung?
On May 02 2011 16:45 Willes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:39 On_Slaught wrote:On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims I really am curious why German posters continue to shit all over this. It is what it is. If you expected anything different you are naive. If you think this wouldn't be done by any country in the world in similar circumstances you are naive. I like the fact he is dead. Be a hater if you want but it doesn't change the fact the allied forces have just achieved one of their main objectives. That alone warrants celebration. Its exactly what i exspected from you. That makes it not better. The fact that you want to tell me indirectly that i cant talk in this thread ebcause im not from the US (lol) shows who is naive here.Its just propaganda, but everybody knows it, bind a banana on a band on a tree and the monkey will look for the sky if he is hungry. =)
You should probably go reread what I said.
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On May 02 2011 16:44 Dakota wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims Yea, I sure hope no one celebrated Hitler's death, since he was only one person >_>
No one celebrated hitler's death. You must be confusing it with the celebration of the end (victory) of WW2.
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On May 02 2011 16:46 Aurocaido wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:44 Dakota wrote:On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims Yea, I sure hope no one celebrated Hitler's death, since he was only one person >_> Please stop comparing Osama to Hitler, there is no comparision whatsoever.
lol yea thousands of lives, who cares about them. it's nothing near as impressive as hundreds of thousands that hitler killed so the people who died to osama are totally less important
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Hahaha another Issue I see here is that a lot of people posting are just glad the guy is dead (THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE). And I am pretty sure that is not only to be expected but also welcomed in this thread. (AGAIN, NOT THE ISSUE).
And then there are a bunch of naysayers on here, either stating it will not change anything, or we should not be celebrating the death of a mass murderer. The issue is the lack of relevant or positive contribution those attitudes have to this thread. What is the purpose of letting us know that in your opinion this may not change anything at all? Would you like to take this moment away from people who are genuinely not only expected, but also entitled to be happy right about now?
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On May 02 2011 16:46 Aurocaido wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:44 Dakota wrote:On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims Yea, I sure hope no one celebrated Hitler's death, since he was only one person >_> Please stop comparing Osama to Hitler, there is no comparision whatsoever.
This is the only time in internet history that a hitler comparison almost works, actually, so we should let it slide.
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On May 02 2011 16:48 DeepElemBlues wrote: trolladay trolladoh trolladee la la something
i think some germans like willes resent the US because among other reasons after the war we really sat on western germany until we needed them to have a good army to possibly help fight the soviets with. allied soldiers were trained to regard the german people as enemies and to treat them as such and the germans themselves were told that they had to prove they were civilized before they would be allowed to rejoin the civilized world, shit like that.
Well, think again, you re wrong.
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I just want to be a part of this thread but a little more on topic. It's a pretty good feeling knowing that a major head of that organization is down. It may not change the threat of whatever, but to know that he's gone is extremely gratifying O.O
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Sadly the history is allways written by who is left and not allways by who is right...
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This is the only time in internet history that a hitler comparison almost works, actually.
osama just never got the chance to build gas chambers or grab a bunch of jews to put in them.
You re not better then the ppl you like to see dead, but i think you dont understand that.
that's an insult, and so is the fact that we can tell you think that you definitely are better than us or him
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I´m so sorry TeamLiquid but this asshole killed my mom finally justice has been done thank u dear Obama and US Forces thanks a lot for justice
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On May 02 2011 16:44 Dakota wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 16:36 Willes wrote: celebrating the death of 1 person: look how dumb you guys are, propaganda victims Yea, I sure hope no one celebrated Hitler's death, since he was only one person >_> Comparing Osama Bin Laden to Hitler is way off base.
Also, to those saying that it's just the Germans saying things like it's "disgusting to dance on a dead man's grave" are wrong. I've read many from the US saying the same thing in this very thread; the only difference is that they were written off as trolls. And those people saying that they attacked us for no reason are just wrong. I'm not saying we deserved what happened, but at the same time, it wasn't that surprising. If you guys would read up on history a bit more, you'll find that they had reasons for attacking the US.
I, personally, feel happy about his death, but I don't think it's something to celebrate especially when this'll probably cause more harm than good.
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I can only hope that this brings some solace to the relatives of those, whose have been lost in this struggle.
Although another part of me wishes all these tax dollars were spent on something more productive and relevant.
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