EPTYou're going to force a woman to have the baby of a rapist? Yeah, brilliant logic.
This 20 week law seems decent though.
Indiana bans abortion past 20th week - Page 30
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
You're going to force a woman to have the baby of a rapist? Yeah, brilliant logic. This 20 week law seems decent though. | ||
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holdthephone
United States523 Posts
We have not come far enough to afford such luxuries. Many underlying issues need to be weeded out of society before you can go out and save the lives of everyone. | ||
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oo inflame oo
United States286 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On April 28 2011 11:01 lagmaster wrote: The House had to take a second vote because the Senate added the provision cutting off funds to Planned Parenthood. Can anyone here explain that to me? How much funding was cut off and how does that affect Planned Parenthood? | ||
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vetinari
Australia602 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:24 oo inflame oo wrote: I'm an athiest, nihlist, determinist, but also a utilitarian, and I cannot agree with abortion. Justify your statement. Explain how utility is increased by disagreeing with abortion. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:34 vetinari wrote: I'm more curious how could a nihilist not agree with abortion Justify your statement. Explain how utility is increased by disagreeing with abortion.  | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:10 Cloud9157 wrote: Rape is the deciding issue for me. You're going to force a woman to have the baby of a rapist? Yeah, brilliant logic. This 20 week law seems decent though. The baby holds no responsibility for the crimes of its father, and should not be punished for them. | ||
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oo inflame oo
United States286 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:34 vetinari wrote: Justify your statement. Explain how utility is increased by disagreeing with abortion. I'm a vegetarian because I want to limit the amount of suffering of all beings. Their lesser intelligence doesn't affect their suffering. If, after 20 weeks, a fetus may experience pain, I would want to limit their suffering. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:41 Alzadar wrote: I heard that if you repeat an opinion 15 times, it becomes an universal truth that everyone has to agree with.The baby holds no responsibility for the crimes of its father, and should not be punished for them. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:43 oo inflame oo wrote: How is it nihilistic to care about suffering? Nietzsche specifically said suffering is irrelevant for a nihilist. I'm a vegetarian because I want to limit the amount of suffering of all beings. Their lesser intelligence doesn't affect their suffering. If, after 20 weeks, a fetus may experience pain, I would want to limit their suffering. | ||
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oo inflame oo
United States286 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:37 VIB wrote: I'm more curious how could a nihilist not agree with abortion As worthless creatures in a worthless expanse of space, one of the few distinguishes we can make are the differences between pleasure and pain. Locked in a dark room with bags over our head (which is what we are), we still experience positive and negative sensations. I believe promoting unconditional happiness or causing suffering are our only two choices in life. I choose the former. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:48 oo inflame oo wrote: What about the suffering of the mother? ^^As worthless creatures in a worthless expanse of space, one of the few distinguishes we can make are the differences between pleasure and pain. Locked in a dark room with bags over our head (which is what we are), we still experience positive and negative sensations. I believe promoting unconditional happiness or causing suffering are our only two choices in life. I choose the former. | ||
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oo inflame oo
United States286 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:51 VIB wrote: What about the suffering of the mother? ^^ That's another story. Rape shouldn't be part of society. A flawed society shouldn't be justification to cause more suffering. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:41 Alzadar wrote: The baby holds no responsibility for the crimes of its father, and should not be punished for them. But the mother should? Come on now... | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:54 oo inflame oo wrote: That's another story. Rape shouldn't be part of society. A flawed society shouldn't be justification to cause more suffering. Except you're causing more suffering for the mother? Not to mention the possibly very expensive medical bills+continued money needed to support a child, something that the mother can't put up in the first place if she's below the poverty line. So in the end you got a starving mother, starving kid, and a shitty situation. Why should she be burdened with something that she didn't want in the first place that was forced upon her with a crime? | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:41 Alzadar wrote: The baby holds no responsibility for the crimes of its father, and should not be punished for them. So the "baby" takes priority over the woman, who never wanted to have sexual relations with that man? You don't force a woman to do anything like that. Make her go through 9 months of a burden that serves as a reminder that she was raped. | ||
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AyeH
United States534 Posts
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
This post is not directed at the law posted in the OP | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On April 29 2011 09:54 oo inflame oo wrote: That's another story. Rape shouldn't be part of society. A flawed society shouldn't be justification to cause more suffering. Hi my name is inflame and we are going to debate on my terms. kk? | ||
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