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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
2. We discovered that the intruders had planted a file on one of our Sony Online Entertainment servers named “Anonymous” with the words “We are Legion.” lol? No third party confirmation, I would guess? | ||
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
PlayStation Plus premium subscription service; 30 days of free service for Music Unlimited subscribers; and extending PlayStation Plus and Music Unlimited subscriptions for the number of days services were unavailable." I'm a little curious if by U.S account holders they mean everyone in the entire freaking world cause it was more then just the U.S that was affected by this... | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:13 VIB wrote: lol? No third party confirmation, I would guess? That's what we call a smoke screen. Whether it was by whoever did this or Sony themselves though.. But it'll probably fly, because .gov doesn't have much of a clue either. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:14 DrBoo wrote: "We told the subcommittee about our intent to offer complimentary identity theft protection to U.S. account holders and detailed the “Welcome Back” program that includes free downloads, 30 days of free membership in the PlayStation Plus premium subscription service; 30 days of free service for Music Unlimited subscribers; and extending PlayStation Plus and Music Unlimited subscriptions for the number of days services were unavailable." I'm a little curious if by U.S account holders they mean everyone in the entire freaking world cause it was more then just the U.S that was affected by this... Credit Card theft was international numbers. They probably have different announcements by region. That response makes sense because its before the US senate. | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
Blame anon for your fail. Hey sony, I also hear the hackers were human too. You might wanna point that out too. | ||
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CyberPitz
United States428 Posts
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Brett
Australia3823 Posts
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
As per the PSN EULA Paragraph 1 We are not liable for any unauthorised use or sharing of your Sony Online Network account. Paragraph 16 We exclude all liability for loss of data or unauthorised access to your data, Sony Online Network account or Sony Online Network wallet and for damage caused to your software or hardware as a result of using or accessing Sony Online Network. | ||
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
On May 05 2011 07:15 schimmetje wrote: That's what we call a smoke screen. Whether it was by whoever did this or Sony themselves though.. But it'll probably fly, because .gov doesn't have much of a clue either. "In a letter to the US Congress, Sony said the breach came at the same time as it was fighting a denial-of-service attack from Anonymous." http://packetstormsecurity.org/news/view/19104/Sony-Blames-Vigilante-Group-Anonymous-For-Data-Theft.html | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On May 05 2011 09:00 oZii wrote: A little tidbit about the PSN EULA As per the PSN EULA Paragraph 1 We are not liable for any unauthorised use or sharing of your Sony Online Network account. Paragraph 16 We exclude all liability for loss of data or unauthorised access to your data, Sony Online Network account or Sony Online Network wallet and for damage caused to your software or hardware as a result of using or accessing Sony Online Network. Doesnt really matter for some of us (thank you consumer protection laws). If parts of the EULA are not legitimate then those parts of the EULA are not legitimate. And acting careless with the private data from users is well... problematic for them  | ||
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Lucidx
United States122 Posts
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RighteousDan
Canada99 Posts
On May 05 2011 10:26 Lucidx wrote: Didn't Anon do this as a result of a big "anti-hacker" campaign by Sony? Not sure, but in that case, Anon should hit Microsoft.. because they ban hacker xbox's like noone I've ever seen before. I don't really feel that Sony is that adamant about hackers. It seems like Microsoft cracks down more, so you'd assume that the hackers would be angrier about them instead lol. | ||
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
Edit: wow what did I type lol | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
Plus I'm pretty sure they already hit Sony with DDOS last month or somethin'. From what I hear, at least. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
--- no, sony deserves to be held accountable for this. you would still sue the bank if you gave them money to hold and then someone broke in and stole all the money and you cant get your money back. | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
On May 05 2011 14:42 BisuDagger wrote: All I can say is I really feel bad for sony. They are getting sued by people for getting hacked. It's not sony's fault that information was stolen. I think using payments online is a risk you have to be willing to take and accept if it gets compromised. I am thankful however for the 30 plus membership and will gladly take advantage of it. That's like saying I left my car unlocked in my neighbor with a laptop on the passenger seat, and its not my fault the laptop was stolen. Network security and private data is important, more important than most companies think. In a way, it's good that these things happen because in the end it will lead to better security. When you decide to store private data like that you also take on the responsibility of protecting that data to some extent. Its unlucky that it happened to them and not one of the other companies with weak security policies, but I would hardly feel bad for Sony. Plus with their recent shit toward hackers, karma is a bitch. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
A funny synopsis from 2chan ソニー「Linux(OS)乗せてPS3をコンピューターに見せかければ、関税安くてボロ儲けだお！」 ↓ Linuxにセキュリティーホールが見つかる ↓ ソニー「勝手ですが、Linuxは好評につき終了しました。」 →ユーザー激怒、集団訴訟へ ↓ ソニー「実は購入いただいたPS3は、ソニーのレンタル品扱いなのです。だからどうしようと私たちの勝手なのですよ。」 ↓ ハッカーがクラックしてLinuxを使えるように。その際、セキュリティ上、致命的な鍵(ルートキー)発見 ↓ ハッカー「教えるから、Linux戻して、お願い」 ソニー「うっせバカ、訴訟だ」 訴訟提起 結果、全世界のハッカーを敵に回す ↓ ネットワーク障害発生 ソニー「アノニマスのせいに違いない！訴えるわ」 アノニマス「俺らなにもしてないんだけど…じゃあ終わったらホントに攻撃するわ」 ↓ 何者かがクレカ情報抜いちゃった ↓ ついでにSOEもやられちゃった ↓ ソニー、米下院の公聴会での証言を拒否 ←今ここ Sony: If we load Linux onto the PS3 and make it appear like a computer, the tariffs are lower and we'll make bank! ↓ Security hole discovered in Linux ↓ Sony: Due to popular demand, we have decided to discontinue Linux. --> Users are furious, heads to class action. ↓ Sony: The PS3's you bought are actually considered Sony rental equipment - so we can do whatever the hell we want. ↓ Hacker cracks PS3 so Linux can be used. During the process, he discovers a root key. ↓ Hacker: I'll tell you the root key info, so please give us Linux back. Sony: FU, we're going to sue you. Files legal stuff, antagonizes hackers worldwide ↓ Network issues happen Sony: It's because of Anonymous! We're going to sue! Anonymous: We haven't done anything... fine, we'll really attack you once this is over ↓ Someone steals credit card info ↓ SOE is also compromised ↓ Sony refuses to testify @ Congress <-- current LOL Why are these companies so bad at this game. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 05 2011 15:23 Seide wrote: That's like saying I left my car unlocked in my neighbor with a laptop on the passenger seat, and its not my fault the laptop was stolen. Network security and private data is important, more important than most companies think. In a way, it's good that these things happen because in the end it will lead to better security. When you decide to store private data like that you also take on the responsibility of protecting that data to some extent. Its unlucky that it happened to them and not one of the other companies with weak security policies, but I would hardly feel bad for Sony. Plus with their recent shit toward hackers, karma is a bitch. There is blame in BOTH. If you leave your car unlocked and lose the laptop, they are still criminals and deserve spite. As for the "karma" bullshit, what? You are saying Sony isn't justified in fighting these assholes? | ||
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