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Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
May 05 2011 07:32 GMT
#161
I wonder if the split handshake tcp attack announced 7 days prior to this allowed them to get past Sony's defenses
http://www.purevpn.com/blog/we-secure-behind-the-walls/
I am down but I am far from over
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
May 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#162
On May 05 2011 16:32 Phaded wrote:
I wonder if the split handshake tcp attack announced 7 days prior to this allowed them to get past Sony's defenses
http://www.purevpn.com/blog/we-secure-behind-the-walls/


Nah. Usually those kind of things are great for theorycrafting but not even really needed in a rl scenario. Word atm is that their Apache servers were old, old, ooolldd..
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19262 Posts
May 05 2011 16:19 GMT
#163
On May 05 2011 15:23 Seide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:
All I can say is I really feel bad for sony. They are getting sued by people for getting hacked. It's not sony's fault that information was stolen. I think using payments online is a risk you have to be willing to take and accept if it gets compromised. I am thankful however for the 30 plus membership and will gladly take advantage of it.

That's like saying I left my car unlocked in my neighbor with a laptop on the passenger seat, and its not my fault the laptop was stolen.

Network security and private data is important, more important than most companies think. In a way, it's good that these things happen because in the end it will lead to better security.

When you decide to store private data like that you also take on the responsibility of protecting that data to some extent.

Its unlucky that it happened to them and not one of the other companies with weak security policies, but I would hardly feel bad for Sony. Plus with their recent shit toward hackers, karma is a bitch.

No, it's like saying Toyota can keep criminals locked outl. But if somehow someone breaks in and steals your laptop regardless then you can't sue toyota for the theft.
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DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 14:05:31
May 06 2011 14:04 GMT
#164
Original post updated (Update 11 & Update 12) from Sony official updates.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 01:48:50
May 08 2011 01:07 GMT
#165
edit: Update 13 up
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
May 08 2011 01:34 GMT
#166
On May 06 2011 01:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 15:23 Seide wrote:
On May 05 2011 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:
All I can say is I really feel bad for sony. They are getting sued by people for getting hacked. It's not sony's fault that information was stolen. I think using payments online is a risk you have to be willing to take and accept if it gets compromised. I am thankful however for the 30 plus membership and will gladly take advantage of it.

That's like saying I left my car unlocked in my neighbor with a laptop on the passenger seat, and its not my fault the laptop was stolen.

Network security and private data is important, more important than most companies think. In a way, it's good that these things happen because in the end it will lead to better security.

When you decide to store private data like that you also take on the responsibility of protecting that data to some extent.

Its unlucky that it happened to them and not one of the other companies with weak security policies, but I would hardly feel bad for Sony. Plus with their recent shit toward hackers, karma is a bitch.

No, it's like saying Toyota can keep criminals locked outl. But if somehow someone breaks in and steals your laptop regardless then you can't sue toyota for the theft.

If the Toyota was advertised to have glass windows but had paper windows and didn't inform you about the security breach until 6 days after the laptop was stolen then you'd have a chance at suing it.

All retarded anologies aside, as a international company that handle sensitive personal information they have an obligation to keep the personal information of customers secure and if they can't then they CAN get sued.
If the case against them shows that Sony had not done everything they could to keep the personal information secure (like the outdated apache rumour flying around) and on top of that delayed 6 days before informing anyone about it then they'd most likely be in big trouble.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 08 2011 06:22 GMT
#167
@mikkohypponen Japanese researcher found some Sony's CGI source is visible, and one of them shows sweepstakes file path. It's world readable
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
May 08 2011 06:29 GMT
#168
On May 05 2011 15:29 thedeadhaji wrote:
Network issues happen
Sony: It's because of Anonymous! We're going to sue!
Anonymous: We haven't done anything... fine, we'll really attack you once this is over

Haha thank you that made my day.
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insta
Profile Joined May 2010
216 Posts
May 08 2011 06:47 GMT
#169
Tough time people havin with a PS3 eh?

Too bad I play on a comp :D
pls dont judge before research, pls dont research before thinking
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
May 08 2011 09:24 GMT
#170
I wonder how far Sony's stock will drop. So far, it's only been ~6%, but we could see a huge drop tomorrow.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
May 08 2011 17:13 GMT
#171
Sony - We knew PSN security flaws.

'We have to admit we were not fully sufficient' exec admits
Sony was internally aware of security shortcomings before its PlayStation Network was hacked, the company has said.
Sony chief information officer, Shinji Hasejima (pictured), this week confessed at a Tokyo press conference that security measures could have been improved.
“The vulnerability [of the network] was a known vulnerability, one known of in the world. But Sony was not aware of it... was not convinced of it,” he said.
“We are now trying to improve aspects of it”.
Shiro Kambe, the senior vice president at Sony, also apologised for the oversight.
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“We thought we had taken enough management and control measures [to ensure the network was secure], but looking back, there might have been room for further enhancement,” he said.
“We have to admit we were not fully sufficient.”
Over 100 million PlayStation Network and Sony Online Entertainment accounts were exposed by an unauthorised user last month.
Around ten million credit cards stored on Sony’s servers may have been stolen, the company warned. A criminal investigation is underway in the US, though not in Japan – implying the hacker was based in the US.
[TIMELINE – THE PSN ATTACK AND COLLAPSE]
Sony repeatedly apologised at the press conference, beginning and ending the meeting with a ‘deep bow’.
The company explained that it was vulnerabilities in its web application server that caused the hack.
Rik Ferguson, both a PlayStation user and computer security expert at Trend Micro, said lax security controls for digital networks are not out of the ordinary.
“Unfortunately, it is common for companies to run servers that they know has vulnerabilities,” he told Develop.
“In the enterprise world, companies want maximum up-time. They don’t want to take their servers down, so they try to balance security with up-time.
“So companies try to deliver security patches in a bunch, say every few months. This of course means there’s a period of time when these vulnerabilities are not secured.
“Sadly a lot of companies are doing things this way”.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
May 14 2011 23:19 GMT
#172
Update 14 added
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 00:13:15
May 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#173
I'm getting the update right now
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
hehe
Profile Joined April 2009
United States132 Posts
May 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#174
lol they closed my crap thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=223124
it really is back up though no lie
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
May 15 2011 01:11 GMT
#175
PLAYSTATION NETWORK IS COMING BACK SHOULD BE UP IN A FEW HOURS!
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 15 2011 01:15 GMT
#176
boo I'm going to rename this about PSN being back up to stop people from making shitty threads about it okay
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Jeffsekai
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 15 2011 01:29 GMT
#177
Let's just hope it stays up until after E3. Sony's press conference is going to be so weird...
Everyone fights, no one quits. If you don't fight I'll kill you myself.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
May 15 2011 01:30 GMT
#178
Anyone who owns a PS3 must be having mixed feelings about this.
Probably mostly happiness as they will be able to play once again after such a long tim, but definitely some anger and fear as it got shut down for such a long time all thanks to someone stealing people's personal information.

To everyone who owns a PS3: ENJOY! :D
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Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
May 15 2011 01:42 GMT
#179
On May 06 2011 01:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 15:23 Seide wrote:
On May 05 2011 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:
All I can say is I really feel bad for sony. They are getting sued by people for getting hacked. It's not sony's fault that information was stolen. I think using payments online is a risk you have to be willing to take and accept if it gets compromised. I am thankful however for the 30 plus membership and will gladly take advantage of it.

That's like saying I left my car unlocked in my neighbor with a laptop on the passenger seat, and its not my fault the laptop was stolen.

Network security and private data is important, more important than most companies think. In a way, it's good that these things happen because in the end it will lead to better security.

When you decide to store private data like that you also take on the responsibility of protecting that data to some extent.

Its unlucky that it happened to them and not one of the other companies with weak security policies, but I would hardly feel bad for Sony. Plus with their recent shit toward hackers, karma is a bitch.

No, it's like saying Toyota can keep criminals locked outl. But if somehow someone breaks in and steals your laptop regardless then you can't sue toyota for the theft.


Are you kidding me? Do you know why Sony was hacked? It's because they were arrogant fools and now they are paying for it. They claimed the PS3 was "unhackable" so they decided to not put proper security in place for the PSN. It came back and bit them in the ass. They deserved to be hacked just to get put in their place.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Qurid
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 02:05:59
May 15 2011 02:05 GMT
#180
On May 15 2011 10:42 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 01:19 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 05 2011 15:23 Seide wrote:
On May 05 2011 14:42 BisuDagger wrote:
All I can say is I really feel bad for sony. They are getting sued by people for getting hacked. It's not sony's fault that information was stolen. I think using payments online is a risk you have to be willing to take and accept if it gets compromised. I am thankful however for the 30 plus membership and will gladly take advantage of it.

That's like saying I left my car unlocked in my neighbor with a laptop on the passenger seat, and its not my fault the laptop was stolen.

Network security and private data is important, more important than most companies think. In a way, it's good that these things happen because in the end it will lead to better security.

When you decide to store private data like that you also take on the responsibility of protecting that data to some extent.

Its unlucky that it happened to them and not one of the other companies with weak security policies, but I would hardly feel bad for Sony. Plus with their recent shit toward hackers, karma is a bitch.

No, it's like saying Toyota can keep criminals locked outl. But if somehow someone breaks in and steals your laptop regardless then you can't sue toyota for the theft.


Are you kidding me? Do you know why Sony was hacked? It's because they were arrogant fools and now they are paying for it. They claimed the PS3 was "unhackable" so they decided to not put proper security in place for the PSN. It came back and bit them in the ass. They deserved to be hacked just to get put in their place.



Well, you clearly do not know why Sony was hacked either. Sony was hacked because they removed the ability to install Linux, aswell as sueing a hacker who managed to hack the PS3, making it able to put on third party software.
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