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Pokerstars is an online poker site. Pokerstrategy is an educational training site. They are not the same site. The TSL3 is sponsored by pokerstrategy.com.
bouncyr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1 Post
April 16 2011 08:00 GMT
#601
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quadjacks-black-friday
Stream with discussion about it
Alaron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States225 Posts
April 16 2011 08:01 GMT
#602
God I really hate the country I live in.

This is the stupidest crap ever. The U.S. should be worried about how easy it is to get sketchy drugs within our borders. Or maybe be worried about the war they are in. But no they do this kind of stuff.
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
April 16 2011 08:06 GMT
#603
On April 16 2011 16:43 -Archangel- wrote:
Lol. There goes TSL3. I doubt TL got the prize money in advance.


It's good to see people don't read anything.

TSL is sponsored by PokerStrategy.com, not PokerStars or any online cardroom.
www.twitter.com/marconofrio | marconofrio.tumblr.com
Traveler
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 08:13:09
April 16 2011 08:11 GMT
#604
On April 16 2011 16:51 MMello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 16:30 Klogon wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:28 Klogon wrote:
Are insured by the US Federal Government for up to $100,000...

100m right ? 100k is pocket change to ps


and 100m is nothing for US banks not the mention the US government. Are you kidding me?

Oh, and I meant that each person's personal deposits / accounts are insured up to 100k.

Edit: well it seems like 250k. My bad. http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/basics.html

The standard deposit insurance amount is $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.


I honestly do not know why you keep arguing this. To even think that any of the poker sites' capital equals one of the major financial firms is laughable. Even combined I doubt they'll come close.

You must not watch poker or play online poker at all..
Am i right?
250k isn't even 1st place in some online poker tounrys


Not to call you an idiot. But that is 250k insurance per account, when there are millions of accounts per bank. To even think that ALL the poker sites in the WORLD would manage to put together the trillions in capital to match even ONE of the major financial firms; is laughable.

Anyways, end that argument please, because banks are making multi-billions everyday placing bets so large that every single poker player in the world would crap their pants to see at a table... take for example currency trading, banks make thousands of billion dollar snap trades per day in order to make tiny percentages in their favor... they are the ultimate gamblers, the ultimate guys who have the skill and know the odds. They make any poker player look like a kid betting with quarters... and they rarely lose, and never ever get cleaned.

Can you ever argue in favor of something without first proving it?
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 16 2011 08:22 GMT
#605
On April 16 2011 17:11 Traveler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 16:51 MMello wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:30 Klogon wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:28 Klogon wrote:
Are insured by the US Federal Government for up to $100,000...

100m right ? 100k is pocket change to ps


and 100m is nothing for US banks not the mention the US government. Are you kidding me?

Oh, and I meant that each person's personal deposits / accounts are insured up to 100k.

Edit: well it seems like 250k. My bad. http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/basics.html

The standard deposit insurance amount is $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.


I honestly do not know why you keep arguing this. To even think that any of the poker sites' capital equals one of the major financial firms is laughable. Even combined I doubt they'll come close.

You must not watch poker or play online poker at all..
Am i right?
250k isn't even 1st place in some online poker tounrys


Not to call you an idiot. But that is 250k insurance per account, when there are millions of accounts per bank. To even think that ALL the poker sites in the WORLD would manage to put together the trillions in capital to match even ONE of the major financial firms; is laughable.

Anyways, end that argument please, because banks are making multi-billions everyday placing bets so large that every single poker player in the world would crap their pants to see at a table... take for example currency trading, banks make thousands of billion dollar snap trades per day in order to make tiny percentages in their favor... they are the ultimate gamblers, the ultimate guys who have the skill and know the odds. They make any poker player look like a kid betting with quarters... and they rarely lose, and never ever get cleaned.

Long-Term Capital Management called, they'd like to unclean themselves.
But why?
Traveler
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States451 Posts
April 16 2011 08:34 GMT
#606
On April 16 2011 17:22 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 17:11 Traveler wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:51 MMello wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:30 Klogon wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:28 Klogon wrote:
Are insured by the US Federal Government for up to $100,000...

100m right ? 100k is pocket change to ps


and 100m is nothing for US banks not the mention the US government. Are you kidding me?

Oh, and I meant that each person's personal deposits / accounts are insured up to 100k.

Edit: well it seems like 250k. My bad. http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/basics.html

The standard deposit insurance amount is $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.


I honestly do not know why you keep arguing this. To even think that any of the poker sites' capital equals one of the major financial firms is laughable. Even combined I doubt they'll come close.

You must not watch poker or play online poker at all..
Am i right?
250k isn't even 1st place in some online poker tounrys


Not to call you an idiot. But that is 250k insurance per account, when there are millions of accounts per bank. To even think that ALL the poker sites in the WORLD would manage to put together the trillions in capital to match even ONE of the major financial firms; is laughable.

Anyways, end that argument please, because banks are making multi-billions everyday placing bets so large that every single poker player in the world would crap their pants to see at a table... take for example currency trading, banks make thousands of billion dollar snap trades per day in order to make tiny percentages in their favor... they are the ultimate gamblers, the ultimate guys who have the skill and know the odds. They make any poker player look like a kid betting with quarters... and they rarely lose, and never ever get cleaned.

Long-Term Capital Management called, they'd like to unclean themselves.


Even they didn't get cleaned. Other banks bought it up at lowered prices, and it apparently ran for a profit the following year...
Can you ever argue in favor of something without first proving it?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
April 16 2011 08:45 GMT
#607
this thread has revealed quite a number of douchebags...
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 09:23:22
April 16 2011 09:17 GMT
#608
On April 16 2011 16:51 MMello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 16:30 Klogon wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:28 Klogon wrote:
Are insured by the US Federal Government for up to $100,000...

100m right ? 100k is pocket change to ps


and 100m is nothing for US banks not the mention the US government. Are you kidding me?

Oh, and I meant that each person's personal deposits / accounts are insured up to 100k.

Edit: well it seems like 250k. My bad. http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/basics.html

The standard deposit insurance amount is $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.


I honestly do not know why you keep arguing this. To even think that any of the poker sites' capital equals one of the major financial firms is laughable. Even combined I doubt they'll come close.

You must not watch poker or play online poker at all..
Am i right?
250k isn't even 1st place in some online poker tounrys


Uhhh no, you're completely wrong. You bring up watching poker on TV? Lol. Geez, I have a feeling I have more poker experience than you.

250k isn't insurance for the banks. It's insurance for each depositor. So if we use poker site terms, that's for each USER instead of what you're probably thinking as it being for the entire site. For example, if you had 200k on Pokerstars and I had 200k on Pokerstars, we'd both get all of our money back if pokerstars was a FDIC insured bank. In fact, if you also had 250k on Fulltilt, 250k on UB, and 250k on Pokerstars and all were FDIC insured banks, the government would pay you 750k if they all went under.

Sure it doesn't help if you have millions on deposit, but it sure as hell dampens the blow for 99.9% of people, doesn't it?

Honestly, I feel many of you fail to comprehend how giant the global financial system really is. There is a ton of money in the global poker industry, but the financial system IS money. But I have no idea why the hell we are still talking about this.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
April 16 2011 09:31 GMT
#609
Even though PokerStr is sponsoring TSL3, the money could be escrowed in a now locked or frozen acc

If something is locked or frozen, by us terms you can pretty much say byebye to that money forever

For me the verdict will be on monday, clearly the agreement that MB has with FTP to credit acc's instantly is void atm, and i will only get the money in my acc once it actually clears from one of FTP's real accounts (which will happen only on weekdays), and will only happen if its from a non frozen account, despite the fact i'm one of the lucky few who was allowed to send a transaction order because i acted fast


Either way at usual we are simply at the mercy of the fed
ZeGzoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden307 Posts
April 16 2011 09:38 GMT
#610
Lets say the poker sites are brought back up again. You cant rly think that the sites have the available funds to pay out when everyone is trying to withdraw their bank rolls because of fear of losing the money. It will be the 1930s depression all over again, every player rushing to get their money out again.
yeah yeah im going
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
April 16 2011 09:41 GMT
#611
While what You say Klogon is technicaly true, the truth is much more complicated. If some of the major banks would go bankrupt at the same time i highly doubt all their clints would get their money back. There are few reason for this:

1)Major banks going bankrupt at the same time means crisis, huge crisis. The government has a lot on its shoulders and belive me giving money back to customers isnt first on the "to do list".

2)While in most of the devloped countries theres a special fund, set in order to pay the money back to customers of bankrupt banks, the sad fact is, that this fund usually covers only 10-15% of total bank deposits (not sure how it looks in US though).

3)Even if the money is given back, very often it takes a long of time, or it is payed in government bonds, again meaning your money is frozen for a long time.


Ps. I am not defending the notion that pokersites capitalization is similiar to those of banks, it seems absurd. But again i never cheked it, so who knows. I supppose it may be possible that total capitalization of ALL poker sites is similiar to this of ONE large bank, but i am kinda guessing here.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 16 2011 09:51 GMT
#612
I feel sorry for the pros, they are gonna get hit hard by losing 90% of their sponsors.
Noob4hire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 09:53:13
April 16 2011 09:52 GMT
#613
On April 16 2011 17:06 frequency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 16:43 -Archangel- wrote:
Lol. There goes TSL3. I doubt TL got the prize money in advance.


It's good to see people don't read anything.

TSL is sponsored by PokerStrategy.com, not PokerStars or any online cardroom.


see people not thinking

they just print money with magic

its not like they make their money for referrals and kickback
Defrag
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland414 Posts
April 16 2011 09:58 GMT
#614
More current information can be found on LiquidPoker!

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/968440/all/Poker_sites_seized_by_FBI.html
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 16 2011 10:06 GMT
#615
On April 16 2011 18:52 Noob4hire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 17:06 frequency wrote:
On April 16 2011 16:43 -Archangel- wrote:
Lol. There goes TSL3. I doubt TL got the prize money in advance.


It's good to see people don't read anything.

TSL is sponsored by PokerStrategy.com, not PokerStars or any online cardroom.


see people not thinking

they just print money with magic

its not like they make their money for referrals and kickback

They partner with a lot more rooms than just PS and FTP. Afaik they never even offered those no deposit bonuses for american citizens and PS will probably continue operations outside of the US.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
April 16 2011 10:08 GMT
#616
US democracy is so awesome.
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4432 Posts
April 16 2011 10:29 GMT
#617
So they're cracking down on online poker but the wall street casino and derivatives bubble is still open for business? Big banks bet on this casino and if they lose the taxpayer bails them out.

One rule for the financial elite another for the rest of us schmucks (I don't gamble online but don't have a problem with it per-se and believe the government should stay out of internet issues)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Godstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania845 Posts
April 16 2011 10:37 GMT
#618
On liquidpoker there was a link to a financial news network vid where they said the gov wants 3 bilion $ from those sites. Assuming it's combined shouldn't they pay like 1 bilion each since i'm fairly sure they have it? (wikipedia says in 2009 and 2010 pokerstars earned 1.4 bilion $ a year). I don't play poker but this sucks for people that do and have money on those sites. Best of luck guys !
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"-Day 9
Mahs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands171 Posts
April 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#619
Is there any risk for legal action towards the players?

From that FBI poster:
"For the persons engaged in the business of betting or wagering, it is also a federal crime to knowingly accept, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling, credit, electronic fund transfers, or checks."

I'm not into all the legal mumbo jumbo, but doesn't that sound like they're saying the players (within their jurisdiction) are on their radar too? I haven't seen this discussed yet in this thread.
I'll be in my bunk.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
April 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#620
On April 16 2011 18:58 Defrag wrote:
More current information can be found on LiquidPoker!

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/968440/all/Poker_sites_seized_by_FBI.html


From what i understand there peoples money on Pokerstars and FTP are secure, which is good.
Still...It really amazes me how they can try to fucking take peoples money like that, disgusting.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
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