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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On May 03 2011 21:46 RoseTempest wrote: thus is the solution, don't let any immigrants in, and more people will vote :D Or do it communist style. If you didn't vote, you get a visit from authorities asking why you didn't vote for the great leader.  | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 03 2011 21:39 Figgy wrote: Amazing how many immigrants we let in, you mean. And I'm not even joking about this, there is a reason it's so low. The thing is, its mostly not the immigrants that are making problems here, its the damn Refugees. We can't deny them, and they get on average more opportunities than immigrants. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
I don't really feel too bad. The Liberals and Bloc have been tossed into the trash bin where they belong (they're useless parties obsessed with old politics that don't matter anymore), and progressives finally support the actual progressive party. I think we might have been asking too much to get a government in addition to that. Canada's healthy and can survive another 4 years of Conservative government. If the gun registry gets scrapped that's unfortunate, but whatever. The F-35 contract is a money pit, but it's not like any other government would have cancelled the order (paying cancellation penalties makes you really look bad to the voting public). The provinces will get the money they want when the Canada Health Act gets renegotiated next year because the transfer system is too well-entrenched for a conservative majority to unravel it. It's not doomsday, and now the right party is in the position to fight the Cons next time. | ||
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Freaky[x]
Canada995 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 03 2011 21:57 Freaky[x] wrote: Dude I was a refugee and I adapted and voted and I know a lot of people that did the same thing. Your argument doesn't hold at all. How long ago did you come to Canada? It is only more recently that Refugees are becoming a problem. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On May 03 2011 21:55 57 Corvette wrote: The thing is, its mostly not the immigrants that are making problems here, its the damn Refugees. We can't deny them, and they get on average more opportunities than immigrants. i got used to seeing this kind of xenophobic hypocrisy from americans, but it sucks seeing it from canadians. i feel like a fool for believing we could have gotten something other than a conservative majority. enjoy your hunting, or whatever the fuck | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
Immigration is not yet a vital issue, but it will be in the not too distant future. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
It appears my dad's racism is rubbing off on me. Shit. | ||
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
On May 03 2011 22:08 57 Corvette wrote: Goddamnit, why did I say that... It appears my dad's racism is rubbing off on me. Shit. What you said was not xenophobic or racist in the least. Saying one group of immigrants is treated differently from another group of immigrants couldn't be anything farther from it. | ||
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Sha[DoW]
Canada110 Posts
On May 03 2011 14:12 Norwenna wrote: Hi, im from Québec, and i just want to say that i do not understand whats going on in the rest of the canada. Why does evryone in the west keep on voting for a political party that support everything people should be against ? They are : Doing Fear and bashing campaigns against other parties based on nonsense and absurdities. No respect on anything environmental. Throwing major investments OUTSIDE of the country, like the planes. No respect of the ppl freedom (gay, abortion, etc) Again, Censuring everything, even question asked to Harper ? Putting money in banks/OLD energy which are closer and closer to become obsolete. Where in every other advanced country in the world people are pushing for new energy use. Breaking and disrespecting our own laws .... And after people dont understand why Québec always want to split off. NONE of them are in with how anyone sees canada at all here... WHY DO YOU VOTE FOR HARPER, I DONT UNDERSTAND ? People like you are why attack ads are so popular in the political game. | ||
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RajaF
Canada530 Posts
In a way this is very good. Now when he takes the country down the drain with him, Harper will not have a scapegoat anymore. He will have to take full responsibility for everything he does. Four years of corporate ass kissing and regular people getting the shaft will maybe wake up canadians to the cons lies and obfuscations. | ||
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
On May 03 2011 22:31 Sha[DoW] wrote: People like you are why attack ads are so popular in the political game. At least there's(re) no nonsense or absurdities is in his own fear mongering and bashing campaign On May 03 2011 22:45 RajaF wrote: I'm very sad that Ontario gave the cons their majority. The people of Ontario should be ashamed of themselves for this, but whatever. In a way this is very good. Now when he takes the country down the drain with him, Harper will not have a scapegoat anymore. He will have to take full responsibility for everything he does. Four years of corporate ass kissing and regular people getting the shaft will maybe wake up canadians to the cons lies and obfuscations. You're all pissed off about how they've governed thus far yet they cannot pass a single bill without the help of the opposition parties. Take responsibility yourself before putting it on somebody else's lap. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 03 2011 22:45 RajaF wrote: I'm very sad that Ontario gave the cons their majority. The people of Ontario should be ashamed of themselves for this, but whatever. In a way this is very good. Now when he takes the country down the drain with him, Harper will not have a scapegoat anymore. He will have to take full responsibility for everything he does. Four years of corporate ass kissing and regular people getting the shaft will maybe wake up canadians to the cons lies and obfuscations. Imo, Harper is the best of the worst. While conservatives do have their flaws, they are the least likely to screw over Canada as a whole. I was going to type a bunch of information here explaining the flaws of the other parties, but so far arguing for my beliefs has done nothing but cause grief to myself, so I am just going to say that for me Conservative is probably the best govn't. | ||
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REM.ca
Canada354 Posts
New-Brunswick is the province that really dissapointed me this election (and Ontario, actually...not quite sure wtf happened in southern ontario this year!..I guess it must stem from Ontario having a bad history with the NPD). I can understand the western provinces voting for the Conservatives. There is a strong sense of loyalty to the right wing over there and the Tories have certainly offered a lot to those provinces with their focus on economy over the years. But NB....*sigh*... New-Brunswick is one of the poorest provinces in the country and a big chunk of the population over there really depends on social programs...yet they keep voting-in the only party who doesn't give a fuck. A big part of the problem over there is that the center/left vote is still really split between Liberals and NPD. The NPD is pretty new over there and liberal loyalties are still strong enough that voters are not flopping over to support the NPD wave in the fight against the Tories. | ||
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REM.ca
Canada354 Posts
On May 03 2011 22:49 57 Corvette wrote: Imo, Harper is the best of the worst. While conservatives do have their flaws, they are the least likely to screw over Canada as a whole.. That's interesting...I feel they already have. I guess we have different views on what Canada should be. | ||
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/05/03/cv-election-ignatieff-future.html# Michael Ignatieff is quitting as the Liberal leader after his party took an electoral drubbing on Monday night. The Liberals were reduced to 34 seats in the House of Commons down from 77 and won only 18.9 per cent of the popular vote. Not only did Ignatieff lead the party to its worst showing in its history, but he also lost his Toronto-area seat in Etobicoke-Lakeshore. | ||
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
On May 03 2011 22:53 REM.ca wrote: (Québec: Good job on accepting change. Voters here really made this election interesting. Don't be too quick to jump on the "see!? We're different for ROC!! We should seperate!!!" though. As someone who's lived in 4 different provinces, I can tell you that every province is really different from the ROC. Québec media has just been really good at focusing on that province's uniqueness while ignoring everything going on outside of Québec.) New-Brunswick is the province that really dissapointed me this election (and Ontario, actually...not quite sure wtf happened in southern ontario this year!..I guess it must stem from Ontario having a bad history with the NPD). I can understand the western provinces voting for the Conservatives. There is a strong sense of loyalty to the right wing over there and the Tories have certainly offered a lot to those provinces with their focus on economy over the years. But NB....*sigh*... New-Brunswick is one of the poorest provinces in the country and a big chunk of the population over there really depends on social programs...yet they keep voting-in the only party who doesn't give a fuck. A big part of the problem over there is that the center/left vote is still really split between Liberals and NPD. The NPD is pretty new over there and liberal loyalties are still strong enough that voters are not flopping over to support the NPD wave in the fight against the Tories. Lot of it is Provincially governed and that brings me to my next point. The federal blue shift in NB is 100% a direct result of Graham's disasterous governing provincially. NB will survive since they're on the side of government. Had PC got a majority and the province gone red, then they'd be fucked for sure. Same goes for if it went blue and there was a diff federal party governing ofc. This is the way of canadian politics. | ||
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RajaF
Canada530 Posts
On May 03 2011 22:46 Achilles wrote: At least there's(re) no nonsense or absurdities is in his own fear mongering and bashing campaign You're all pissed off about how they've governed thus far yet they cannot pass a single bill without the help of the opposition parties. Take responsibility yourself before putting it on somebody else's lap. I'm not pissed off on how they governed thus far. It was a bad government, but nothing that could not be fixed. What I am upset about is how the country will be governed under King Harper. No more government transparency, cutting to social programs, no more free internet (see how you like playing SC2 when you're paying by the MB cuz bell and Rogers will soon have free reign to give you that 25GB cap you so love), increased crime rates (guess what new prisons do), crappy or expensive healthcare... I could go on. I hope I'm wrong on each account, but I'm 99% certain I'm not. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
We basically have the second worse democratic system of the G8ish countries, just above the United States. | ||
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
New prisons house the criminals we already have instead of letting them go free early because we can't house them all If you have the money you deserve to have access to better healthcare as long as the universal option is present for those who don't. I agree we should push for proportional representation, though. As was John Herron's (prominent PC who rep'd my riding) push. | ||
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