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Kagin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6 Posts
May 03 2011 05:36 GMT
#621
I was just hoping for a majority regardless of the party. If the NDP was official opposition without the conservative majority this could have been very hard for small businesses.

Working for a small business I know a lot of people who are worried about the surge the NDP has been having.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
May 03 2011 05:42 GMT
#622
On May 03 2011 14:36 Kagin wrote:
I was just hoping for a majority regardless of the party. If the NDP was official opposition without the conservative majority this could have been very hard for small businesses.

Working for a small business I know a lot of people who are worried about the surge the NDP has been having.


Uh, NDP wants to lower taxes on small businesses, helping small businesses is one main elements of their platform.
Tamerlane
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada424 Posts
May 03 2011 05:44 GMT
#623
On May 03 2011 14:03 SMD wrote:

If you implement a proportional system i have a few questions on it:
Is the number of MPs in the House still 308? Most probably not.
How is it split (50%ridings/50% proportional?) or some other way. It can be any way, but I think most of the population would want more than 50% for ridings.
Which ridings do those 50% propotional represent? No riding, the MPs are appointed from a list submitted by the political party, the first names on the list would be the people at the house of commons, at least that's how most proportionnals work.
do we combine ridings to make room for the proportional MP's, or do some ridings not have candidates and just get candidates assigned to them based on proportional vote? The ridings would be completely redrawn, unless the proportionnals would be added on top of the current 308
If the decision to change the system is made, who changes it? The house? the PM? the GG? the senate? the people? (didnt we vote on it already???) It would require a constitutional amendment, which process is contained in the Constitional Law of 1982 (in short: the proposal have to be ratified - ie. adopted in provincial parliament - for at least 7 provinces comprising more than 50% of the population). Then the GG places the royal stamp of approval because the Premier told him to do so. In the absurd case the GG would refuse, then the Queen of Canada would most certainly fire her representative and appoint a new GG.
If you lose your riding can you be appointed to a different riding because of the proportional vote? or are proportional voters just ridingless and don't represent anyone except their party? Since there's no "proportionnal riding" I think your question is moot, although it would have to be decided if a candidate for a riding could be on the list for the proportionnal - most likely, yes. And if he/she do get elected, then his name is removed from the list so that he can't hold 2 offices at once.


I am a graduate applied political studies student and I answered your question the best I could without doing extensive research.
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
May 03 2011 05:44 GMT
#624
On May 03 2011 14:42 Xafnia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 14:36 Kagin wrote:
I was just hoping for a majority regardless of the party. If the NDP was official opposition without the conservative majority this could have been very hard for small businesses.

Working for a small business I know a lot of people who are worried about the surge the NDP has been having.


Uh, NDP wants to lower taxes on small businesses, helping small businesses is one main elements of their platform.


I guess those business owners are just ignorant hicks then. C'mon. Give them some credit. There are benefits and problems with both approaches.
Guess who`s special?!
Fraud
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada108 Posts
May 03 2011 05:55 GMT
#625
I see a bit of hate against corporations. Who owns corporations in Canada? The evil people? Or perhaps it's the average Canadian with their RRSP and pension plan. Most corporate taxation is stealing from ourselves.

My problem with redistribution is this elitist attitude of "you work hard, I take it away". While all canadians agree for the need of regulation and social safety nets, there are different extremities. I don't work 60 hour weeks so that half my salary goes to people that don't know the value of a dollar.
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
May 03 2011 06:01 GMT
#626
^ hear, hear.
Guess who`s special?!
Kagin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6 Posts
May 03 2011 06:02 GMT
#627
On May 03 2011 14:42 Xafnia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 14:36 Kagin wrote:
I was just hoping for a majority regardless of the party. If the NDP was official opposition without the conservative majority this could have been very hard for small businesses.

Working for a small business I know a lot of people who are worried about the surge the NDP has been having.


Uh, NDP wants to lower taxes on small businesses, helping small businesses is one main elements of their platform.


I was just saying that several successful people who I have known for years and respect are very worried about it, and that gives me reason to worry as well.

Part of this may be my bias being from BC where the NDP did a poor job when there were in power several years ago. They ended up wasting a lot of our money on big ticket promises that did not pan out and this campaign felt similar to me.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
May 03 2011 07:23 GMT
#628
I'm hoping for a speedy abolition of the gun registry. Hopefully it will be gone within a year.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
May 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#629
On May 03 2011 14:55 Fraud wrote:
I see a bit of hate against corporations. Who owns corporations in Canada? The evil people? Or perhaps it's the average Canadian with their RRSP and pension plan. Most corporate taxation is stealing from ourselves.

My problem with redistribution is this elitist attitude of "you work hard, I take it away". While all canadians agree for the need of regulation and social safety nets, there are different extremities. I don't work 60 hour weeks so that half my salary goes to people that don't know the value of a dollar.

It's even more than that. Big business is essential to Canada and NDP policies only push it away.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 03 2011 10:04 GMT
#630
On May 03 2011 16:23 OsoVega wrote:
I'm hoping for a speedy abolition of the gun registry. Hopefully it will be gone within a year.

I havnt been able to find any info on this. Whats this gun registry business?
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
May 03 2011 10:06 GMT
#631
On May 03 2011 19:04 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 16:23 OsoVega wrote:
I'm hoping for a speedy abolition of the gun registry. Hopefully it will be gone within a year.

I havnt been able to find any info on this. Whats this gun registry business?


you have to register all firearms you own. costs you money aswell to register those firearms..
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 03 2011 10:07 GMT
#632
That's what it sounded like.
That sounds completely reasonable to me...

I guess that's what Canada needs... more weapons...
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 10:10:56
May 03 2011 10:09 GMT
#633
its actually completely useless which is why the conservatives wanna get rid of it. the good samaritans out there register there firearms and pay the fees. well the bad ones whom murder/steal and so on don't thus making it useless.

it has nothing todo with more or less weapons.
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
officearshdeep
Profile Joined May 2011
India1 Post
May 03 2011 10:30 GMT
#634
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Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
May 03 2011 12:10 GMT
#635
Fucking who cares about firearms when people with small revenu only think that with smaller taxes they'll get more money . Ok sure they will but the'll lose all the "revenu" from corporation and taxes to help them in everything else like health care and other things like that.

The conservatives played the economy card the firearm card and farmers accross canada fell for it like ...

I think this summarizes very well what's happening:

"Give a Majority to a government found in contempt of Parliament. A government that campaigned on transparency. Good Job Conservative voters.


Now you can scrap the Gun Registery because registering a gun was such a huge deal.

Deregulate the banks.

Give Corporate Tax Cuts while driving up debt.

Then say we have to make some cuts.. and slowly privatize health care.

With the green light that was given to him. He will no longer communicate to Canadians how their money is spent. That is what the contempt issue was about.

He can also remove politcal funding to the political parties. Thus leaving them to focus on special interest groups and the rich to get donations. The poor will have less of a voice now.

"The greatest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter"


While your at it you can scrap the CBC and just listen to your biased rightwing sun media."

Taken from a cbc comment
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 03 2011 12:16 GMT
#636
On May 03 2011 14:44 Tamerlane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 14:03 SMD wrote:

If you implement a proportional system i have a few questions on it:
Is the number of MPs in the House still 308? Most probably not.


I am a graduate applied political studies student and I answered your question the best I could without doing extensive research.


Well, considering a party needs 155 seats for majority, 154 seats should be 50%, and therefore not majority. 154*2 = 308. So yes, I believe there still is 308 MPs.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
May 03 2011 12:39 GMT
#637
On May 03 2011 12:37 Galleon.frigate wrote:
it was only 10 years ago that 70% of canadians voted...


amazing how things can change


Amazing how many immigrants we let in, you mean.

And I'm not even joking about this, there is a reason it's so low.
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Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
May 03 2011 12:43 GMT
#638
figgy , the population of canada is based on Immigration... whats your point?
RoseTempest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
May 03 2011 12:46 GMT
#639
thus is the solution, don't let any immigrants in, and more people will vote :D
gold_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada312 Posts
May 03 2011 12:51 GMT
#640
I for one am very disappointed with a Conservative majority, but we will see how good it turns out won't we. How so many people could vote for them baffles me, especially in Ontario. After forcing HST onto us, seriously guys? I guess once he completely destroys our health care, spends billions on our military and renames us the United States of Harper ( The flag will be his fucking creepy face! ) people might wake up. But then again, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah?
I am from Canada, eh!
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