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ILOVEKITTENS
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Korea (South)112 Posts
April 09 2011 15:36 GMT
#21
Sultan summons all of his viziers. He says "Tomorrow I am going to put all of you in a line and place a hat on each of your heads. The hat will either be red or blue. You will not be able to see the hat on your head. However, because you are my royal viziers, you must be able to tell me what color hat is on your head. Only one of you may be wrong - otherwise, you all die. You can tell me the color of your hat in any order, and you are only allowed to say the color and nothing else - no communication with other viziers." How do the viziers keep their jobs and their lives (what is their strategy)?
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 09 2011 15:37 GMT
#22
On April 10 2011 00:29 Munk-E wrote:
Of course I must add,
If you have 2 pieces of string that when you light in fire take an hour to burn how do you measure 45 minutes?
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on 1 string light both ends at the same time light 1 end of the other string, as soon as the first string is completely burned up, light the other end of the second string when the second string is burned up, it's been 45 minutes!


you're missing the rather important condition that the strings burn unevenly otherwise it's a trivial problem where you can just cut one string into 3/4, 1/4 and burn it without even using the 2nd stirng
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
iMbc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States55 Posts
April 09 2011 15:38 GMT
#23
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about the water one...im guessing that you fill up the 5 liter jug using the 3 liter jug until the 5 liter jug is full and 1 liter of water is left in the three liter jug.

5 liter jug = full
3 liter jug = 1 liter

then you empty the 5 liter jug, pour the 3 liter jug into the 5 liter jug and, after filling the 3 liter jug, pour the 3 liters into the 5 liter jug making 4 amirite?
gerundium
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands786 Posts
April 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#24
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1. fill the 3 liter and throw those 3 liters in the 5 liter. now fill the 3 liter again and fill the 5 liter. there is now one liter in the 3 liter jug. empty the 5. throw the one liter from the 3 into the 5. fill the 3 liter jug and add to the 5 liter jug. you now have 4 liters.

2. take nothing out of bag 1, take 1 coin out of bag 2, 2 out of bag 3, 3 out of bag 4 etc. put all the bags on the scale. check to see how many weight you miss. if you miss nothing then bag 1 is the counterfeit. if you miss 0,1 gram bag 2 is the counterfeit bag, miss 0,2 bag 3 is fake etc.

3. set the 7 and the 11 minute glass. drop in the egg when the 7 runs out. then flip the 11 minute hourglass when it runs out. egg is done when the 11 is done the second time (4+11)

4. 1:07 but you need some trig to solve this, too lazy to do this. should be pretty easy someone in high school did this in ~3rd year.

5. surface area of the disks: PI*1^2 * 25 = 25PI

other disks: PI* 0,5^2 * 100 = 0,25*100*PI = 25PI . yes you can.

stepover12
Profile Joined May 2010
United States175 Posts
April 09 2011 15:46 GMT
#25
Ahh, for number 5, showing that the area is enough to cover may suggest the answer is yes. But it is not a definite proof that there is a way to cover the rectangle with those smaller disks.
Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
April 09 2011 15:47 GMT
#26
On April 10 2011 00:23 ghrur wrote:
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On April 10 2011 00:15 blackbean wrote:
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For #3, 1) flip both hour glasses over, 2) flip over the 11 minute hourglass when it finishes. The time between when the 7 minute hourglass finishes and the 11 minute hourglass finishes (for the second time) is exactly 15 minutes.


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What? Flip both, flip 11 when 7 finishes? That'd be 7+11.
1. Flip both
2. Let 7 finish.
3. As 7 finishes, flip it. This will leave 4 minutes left on 11, and 7 minutes on 7.
4. 11 finishes, with 3 minutes left on 7. Flip 7. Since it's an hour glass, if there's 3 minutes on one side, there's 4 minutes on the other.
5. When 7 finishes once more, 15 minutes are gone.

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It's not 7+11, you begin boiling then egg when the 7 finishes, leaving 4 minutes on the 11 hour glass, when the four minutes is over, you flip it for another 11 minutes. 4+11 is 15
staplestf2
Profile Joined January 2011
United States147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:05:13
April 09 2011 15:47 GMT
#27
On April 10 2011 00:05 stepover12 wrote:
For your curious minds

- Feel free to discuss your thoughts, but please put solution in + Show Spoiler +
here

- Feel free to post your own brainteaser/problem, use bold font so I can find them and paste into original post.
- Don't troll plz <3

1. (accessible to everyone) you have a 5-liter jug and a 3-liter jug and a pool of water. How can you produce exactly 4 liters of water? (a classic one, appeared in a "die hard" movie lol)





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fill the 3 liter jug full and pour it in the 5 liter jug then fill the 3 liter jug again and pour till the 5 liter jug is full you now have 1 liter in the 3 liter jug. pour out the 5 liter jug then pour 1 liter of water from the 3 liter jug in to the 5 liter jug and then fill the 3 liter jug one more time and pour it in the 5 liter jug
"I live in Australia so it's a completely different set of rules. you need to be good at boomerang dodging and kangaroo boxing."
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 17:26:54
April 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#28
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1:
Fill the 5l can, fill the 3 liter with as much as u can from the 5 liter = 2lites left in the 5 liter. empty out the 3l. Pour the 2 liters that are in the 5 liter in to the 3 liter. Fill the five liter and fill the 3 liter with the water from the 5 liter = there will be 4 liters left in the 5 liter can.

2:
take 1 coin from the first bag, 2 from the next etc up to the tenth. If none of them were fake they should weigh 55 grams. But since one of the stacks where fake and only weighed 0.9 grams per coin. They will weigh anything between 54.9- 54 and that is how u determine which one is fake since the fake ones will be in the X stack when the weigh is 55- x*0.1

3: start both hourglasses when 7 minute runs out start boiling the egg. That means that it's 4 min left on the 11 minute hour glass. and when it runs out just flip it over again 4+ 11 = 15.

4:
12 hours later?

5: Reducing the radius of an object means that it reduces it's size both in height and width. this being said if if scale this whole question down to it being only 2 disks in the beginning and that the end result would be 4 times more (8) if you reduce the radius to half of it's current state it's real easy to picture it in you're head. half the radius = 3 more disc fit for each existing disc as one is added to it's width and height and one diagonally as this space is freed up as well = there are 3 more per disc than before that there is room for.

6: mind blown :/ gonna think about it...

7: gonna think about it...

8. light up both ends on one of the strings and just one on the other. When the first one burns out light the other end on the second piece of string.

9: 31 - prime 31mod 30 = 1-not prime.

10: yet another one I don't know .p




Here's a real brain teaser though it's a paradox but it was the first paradox that was introduced to me by my math teacher and I thought it was pretty interesting.

"Suppose there is a town with just one male barber; and that every man in the town keeps himself clean-shaven: some by shaving themselves, some by attending the barber. It seems reasonable to imagine that the barber obeys the following rule: He shaves all and only those men in town who do not shave themselves."

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since it's a paradox it doesn't have an answer but still it's a nice brain teaser
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 15:57:12
April 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#29
On April 10 2011 00:35 ghrur wrote:
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On April 10 2011 00:33 blackbean wrote:
On April 10 2011 00:23 ghrur wrote:
On April 10 2011 00:15 blackbean wrote:
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For #3, 1) flip both hour glasses over, 2) flip over the 11 minute hourglass when it finishes. The time between when the 7 minute hourglass finishes and the 11 minute hourglass finishes (for the second time) is exactly 15 minutes.


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What? Flip both, flip 11 when 7 finishes? That'd be 7+11.
1. Flip both
2. Let 7 finish.
3. As 7 finishes, flip it. This will leave 4 minutes left on 11, and 7 minutes on 7.
4. 11 finishes, with 3 minutes left on 7. Flip 7. Since it's an hour glass, if there's 3 minutes on one side, there's 4 minutes on the other.
5. When 7 finishes once more, 15 minutes are gone.


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my answer isn't 7+11, it's 4+11 if you read my explanation after the flipping steps, when the 7 finishes for the first time, there is 4 minutes left in the 11 minute hourglass, so if you flip that after it finishes you get 4+11=15


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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh My bad. xD Sorry. yours is so much more elegant too. ^_^


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I got a even more elegant solution.
1)flip both over
2)When 7 min hourglass runs out, flip it over and over again.
3) Let 7 min hourglass finish when 11 min hourglass runs out.
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What do you think infinite APM is for?
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 15:57:13
April 09 2011 15:56 GMT
#30
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9. No, it doesn't have to be prime. 31 is prime, divide by 30, remainder 1. 1 isn't prime
darkness overpowering
stepover12
Profile Joined May 2010
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:04:43
April 09 2011 16:00 GMT
#31
On April 10 2011 00:56 ghrur wrote:
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9. No, it doesn't have to be prime. 31 is prime, divide by 30, remainder 1. 1 isn't prime


Ahhh you clever person! Let's change the question to assume the original prime is at least 32.
:p

edit: Actually, let's assume that the remainder R is not 1. Then, must R be a prime?
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
April 09 2011 16:05 GMT
#32
On April 10 2011 01:00 stepover12 wrote:
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On April 10 2011 00:56 ghrur wrote:
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9. No, it doesn't have to be prime. 31 is prime, divide by 30, remainder 1. 1 isn't prime


Ahhh you clever person! Let's change the question to assume the original prime is at least 32.
:p


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I'm afraid not still. Give any prime who's modulus 30 is 1 and it'll disprove your conjecture. 61 disproves, 151 disproves, 541 disproves, etc. In other words, if (x-1)/30=integer, where x is a prime number, then your idea doesn't work. Maybe exclude 1 and it'll work.
darkness overpowering
stepover12
Profile Joined May 2010
United States175 Posts
April 09 2011 16:08 GMT
#33
On April 10 2011 01:05 ghrur wrote:
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On April 10 2011 01:00 stepover12 wrote:
On April 10 2011 00:56 ghrur wrote:
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9. No, it doesn't have to be prime. 31 is prime, divide by 30, remainder 1. 1 isn't prime


Ahhh you clever person! Let's change the question to assume the original prime is at least 32.
:p


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I'm afraid not still. Give any prime who's modulus 30 is 1 and it'll disprove your conjecture. 61 disproves, 151 disproves, 541 disproves, etc. In other words, if (x-1)/30=integer, where x is a prime number, then your idea doesn't work. Maybe exclude 1 and it'll work.


Yes, exactly. Let's say R is not 1, then must R be prime?
I was planning an argument in my head and didn't consider the case R=1 hehe, you got me.
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
April 09 2011 16:08 GMT
#34
Question to #6
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Is it correct to assume that the guru is completely useless and only built in as a distraction?
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
April 09 2011 16:10 GMT
#35
I got to say, plz put the number you will spoil in front of the spoilers lol. Else spoiler tags don't fully make sense.
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:14:49
April 09 2011 16:11 GMT
#36
On April 10 2011 00:05 stepover12 wrote:
9. (if you know what prime numbers are) If a prime number greater than 30 is divided by 30, you get a remainder R. Must the remainder R be a prime number? Why or why not?


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30 = 2*3*5, which means that the remainder can't have any of those factors, else:
Let p be a prime > 30
p mod 30 = R => p = 30*n + R
if R = m*5
p = 30x + 5m = 5*(6x+m) => 5|p => p can't be a prime if it has 5 as a factor (we assume p>30)
same for R=2m and R=3m
So the only possible remainders are:
1, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29
1 happens to be not a prime.
91 mod 30 = 1
;o
Greek Mythology 2.0: Imagine Sisyphos as a man who wants to watch all videos on youtube... and Tityos as one who HAS to watch all of them.
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
April 09 2011 16:21 GMT
#37
On April 10 2011 01:08 Slunk wrote:
Question to #6
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Is it correct to assume that the guru is completely useless and only built in as a distraction?

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Nope, the guru plays a roll in the solution, it's a rather famous riddle, the numbers could be anything though, the logical conclusion goes for every number of people
Greek Mythology 2.0: Imagine Sisyphos as a man who wants to watch all videos on youtube... and Tityos as one who HAS to watch all of them.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:25:33
April 09 2011 16:22 GMT
#38
1 3 4 5 7 answered

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1. fill 5, pour 5 into 3, empty 3, pour 5 into 3, fill 5, pour 5 into 3. 5 jug now has 4 in it.

3. flip 7 and 11. when 7 is done, flip 7 again. when 11 is done, flip 7 (with 3 on it) and 11. when 3 is done, neutralize 11 (8 on it.) get egg in pan, flip the 8, when 8 is done, flip 7

4. if both hands are infinitely thin then they will always coincide but the real answer you seek is some point near 1:05 that i am too lazy to calculate. you just have to remember it isn't 1:05 because the hour hand will have moved up 1/12 of the distance between 1 and 2 at that point.

5. yes. 25 * 1 * 3.14 = 78.5 100 * 0.5 * 0.5 * 3.14 = 78.5 its the same.

7. yes. weigh 3 on one side and 3 on the other. if one side weighs less, that advances to step two. if both sides are equal, the unweighed 3 coins advance to step 2. then in step 2, weigh any 2 random coins. if equal, its the unweighted 1. otherwise its on the scale.

azn_dude1
Profile Joined October 2010
162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:30:12
April 09 2011 16:25 GMT
#39
For 7:
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Weigh 3 coins on each side. If they weight the same, then none were counterfeit and you have 3 coins left. You would then choose 2 of those coins and weigh them. If they're the same, then the third one is counterfeit. If not, then it's the lighter one.

If the initial weighing gives you that one side is lighter, then you have 3 coins, one of which is counterfeit. You can just choose 2 and weigh them. If they weight the same, then the third one is counterfeit. If not, then it's the lighter one.


For 10:
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The first person calls out red if he sees an odd number of red hats and blue if he sees an even number. This person might die. But he calls out red, the next person looks back and if he sees an odd number, then he must be wearing blue. If not, then he must be wearing red.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:28:27
April 09 2011 16:26 GMT
#40
6. http://xkcd.com/blue_eyes.html

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This is a simple inductive reasoning problem. This means we have to take it one step at a time, starting with 1 blue-eyed person.

1. If there is 1 person he leaves on the first night because he knows he must be the only one with blue eyes.

2. If there are 2 people, each one of them sees each other. The next day, they wonder why the other person didn't leave, because if they were the only blue-eyed person, they would have left. Both of them being perfectly logical come to this conclusion and leave on the second night.

3. If there are 3 people, each one of them sees each other. The second day, no one left, because if there were 2 people they would have to wait until the second night anyways. The third day, they realize that none of them left because there must be 3 people on the island with blue eyes, because otherwise if there were 2 people then the 2 would have left on the second night. So, they leave on the third night.

... So on and so forth until...

100. If there are 100 people, all of them see 99 people. The 100th day, no one left, because if there were only 99 people on the island, they would have left on the 99th night. So, the 100 people leave on the 100th night.
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