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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 21:17 GMT
#741
Innocents die every day there, mainly christians that are hunted down by islam extremists.
Horrible horrible things.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:25:35
April 25 2013 21:23 GMT
#742
On April 26 2013 06:17 Steveling wrote:
Innocents die every day there, mainly christians that are hunted down by islam extremists.
Horrible horrible things.

Everyone is getting killed in Syria. Only the Golden Dawn would turn this conflict into a Christian vs Muslim conflict.

Although, I have to really give it to Assad for being one of the few Middle Eastern countries that does not persecute its Christians. I wish he would do the same to Kurds and Jews.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 21:25 GMT
#743
On April 26 2013 06:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:17 Steveling wrote:
Innocents die every day there, mainly christians that are hunted down by islam extremists.
Horrible horrible things.

Everyone is getting killed in Syria. Only the Golden Dawn would turn this conflict into a Christian vs Muslim conflict.


You have no clue if you think it's not a christian-muslim conflict.
It has always being a christian-muslim conflict in this part of the world.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#744
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 21:31 GMT
#745
On April 26 2013 06:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.


I'm gonna break a leg here and say that there is the possibility for them to not exist at all. lol
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
April 25 2013 21:33 GMT
#746
Well from today's press release it seems that NATO doesn't want to get his hand dirty, and instead of helping the rebels they just are gonna monitor & destroy any SCUD missile that exits syria.

http://www.facebook.com/UgaritNews.English/posts/438837962874886

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Ugarit News || URGENT | PRESS RELEASE BY NATIONAL COALITION

The Position of NATO’s Secretary General Regarding Intervention in Syria

Statement
Syrian Coalition
Istanbul, Turkey
April 24, 2013
The Syrian Coalition is highly disappointed with NATO’s Secretary General, Mr. Anders Fogh Rasmussen’s, conclusions regarding intervention in Syria. Mr. Rasmussen confirmed that NATO has no intention of intervening in Syria within the parameters laid out by the Syrian Coalition. These conclusions were made after Mr. Rasmussen’s own statements about the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian situation in Syria, and the dangers and risks of the Syrian crisis extending beyond Syria’s borders.

NATO has stated that it will only monitor the activity of scud missiles being launched from the Assad camps near Damascus to neighboring towns and villages to the north. NATO’s radars will ensure that those missiles fall within the borders of Syria. However, the fact that these missiles will fall over the heads of innocent civilians and children seems to be of no concern to NATO, even though NATO has the forces and preventive tools to stop these missiles. The Syrian Coalition finds it tragic that NATO has the power to stop further loss of life in Syria, but chooses not to take that course of action.

We do not expect the murderous behaviour of Assad’s regime to change in the near future, and thus we are certain that tomorrow will bring news of more innocent civilians dead in Syria. Therefore, it is our duty to remind the international community once more of the grave dangers facing civilians in all regions of Syria. The international community must rise to its great moral and ethical responsibilities and put an end to this bloodshed. History will not only condemn the murderous criminals, but also those who had the power to intervene but chose to be idle.
American and Russian Views on Syria Must Take into Account the Demands of Syrians

Statement
The Media Office
Istanbul, Turkey
April 24, 2013

According to news sources at the NATO Foreign Ministers Conference in Brussels, U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, and Foreign Minister of Russia, Sergei Lavrov, met and seemed to share similar views regarding the Syrian Crisis.

The Syrian Coalition applauds any efforts to present solutions and reach conclusions regarding the Syrian Crisis. However, this two-year revolution by the people for the people, which calls for freedom and dignity, will continue. Therefore, any solutions must take into account the demands of the Syrian people, which include freedom from tyranny, and most importantly, the departure of Assad.

We have no indications that the Assad regime will change its murderous actions, which is why we know that tomorrow will bring more news of the deaths of Syrian civilians and the destruction of our country. We appeal to the international community once more, and NATO in particular, regarding the gravity of the situation across Syria. Immediate action must be taken to stop the bloodshed led by the Assad regime.
For updates, follow Syrian Coalition on Twitter @EtilafUS.
For media inquiries, please contact Sarah karkour at skarkour@etilaf.org.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 25 2013 21:34 GMT
#747
On April 26 2013 06:31 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.


I'm gonna break a leg here and say that there is the possibility for them to not exist at all. lol


Syria's stockpiles of chemical weapons are well-documented and the Syrian government still tries to maintain the highest security it can around stockpile sites in areas it still controls.

This isn't the US saying one thing and most of the rest of the world disagreeing, everyone was in agreement before this civil war ever started that Syria does have chemical weapons stockpiles.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 21:39 GMT
#748
On April 26 2013 06:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:31 Steveling wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.


I'm gonna break a leg here and say that there is the possibility for them to not exist at all. lol


Syria's stockpiles of chemical weapons are well-documented and the Syrian government still tries to maintain the highest security it can around stockpile sites in areas it still controls.

This isn't the US saying one thing and most of the rest of the world disagreeing, everyone was in agreement before this civil war ever started that Syria does have chemical weapons stockpiles.



Are they well documented? Really? Can you share an official article providing pictures, I would love to see that.
And who's everyone, usa and puppet nations? Yes I'm sure they agree, just like sadam had nuclears or was it bio? Don't even remember.

The rebels have lost almost all control in syria and nato comes for the rescue with this make believe hazard.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 25 2013 21:48 GMT
#749
On April 26 2013 06:39 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:31 Steveling wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.


I'm gonna break a leg here and say that there is the possibility for them to not exist at all. lol


Syria's stockpiles of chemical weapons are well-documented and the Syrian government still tries to maintain the highest security it can around stockpile sites in areas it still controls.

This isn't the US saying one thing and most of the rest of the world disagreeing, everyone was in agreement before this civil war ever started that Syria does have chemical weapons stockpiles.



Are they well documented? Really? Can you share an official article providing pictures, I would love to see that.
And who's everyone, usa and puppet nations? Yes I'm sure they agree, just like sadam had nuclears or was it bio? Don't even remember.

The rebels have lost almost all control in syria and nato comes for the rescue with this make believe hazard.

Go do a Google search. It isn't even debatable that Syria has chemical weapons.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 21:50:26
April 25 2013 21:49 GMT
#750
Don't try to reason with an ultra-nationalist. He has already created historical revisionism for an event that started 2 years ago and I applaud him for that.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 21:50 GMT
#751
On April 26 2013 06:48 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:39 Steveling wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:31 Steveling wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.


I'm gonna break a leg here and say that there is the possibility for them to not exist at all. lol


Syria's stockpiles of chemical weapons are well-documented and the Syrian government still tries to maintain the highest security it can around stockpile sites in areas it still controls.

This isn't the US saying one thing and most of the rest of the world disagreeing, everyone was in agreement before this civil war ever started that Syria does have chemical weapons stockpiles.



Are they well documented? Really? Can you share an official article providing pictures, I would love to see that.
And who's everyone, usa and puppet nations? Yes I'm sure they agree, just like sadam had nuclears or was it bio? Don't even remember.

The rebels have lost almost all control in syria and nato comes for the rescue with this make believe hazard.

Go do a Google search. It isn't even debatable that Syria has chemical weapons.


So that's a no?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
April 25 2013 22:05 GMT
#752
Can someone explain to me why would the Syrian government use chemical weapons? It's like they're giving the world the perfect pretext for military intervention. I know it sounds stupid but it seems like they're doing rebels a favor.
You're now breathing manually
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#753
On April 26 2013 07:05 Sent. wrote:
Can someone explain to me why would the Syrian government use chemical weapons? It's like they're giving the world the perfect pretext for military intervention. I know it sounds stupid but it seems like they're doing rebels a favor.

Assad is getting really desperate right now. The Ba'athists are losing right now due to massive funding from the West with minimal support from Russia, Iran, and China and the whole industrial world seems to care less about the Syrian government except for a few leftists.

Assad seems to have nothing to lose at this point, especially when you put Gaddafi's fate into consideration.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 25 2013 22:11 GMT
#754
On April 26 2013 00:56 ImFromPortugal wrote:
US Defense Secretary Hagel says US intelligence confirms with 'some... confidence' that Syria has used chemical weapons - @Reuters, @AP




the full quote is with 'some varying degree of confidence'

not quite the same sentence.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 22:11 GMT
#755
On April 26 2013 07:09 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:05 Sent. wrote:
Can someone explain to me why would the Syrian government use chemical weapons? It's like they're giving the world the perfect pretext for military intervention. I know it sounds stupid but it seems like they're doing rebels a favor.

Assad is getting really desperate right now. The Ba'athists are losing right now due to massive funding from the West with minimal support from Russia, Iran, and China and the whole industrial world seems to care less about the Syrian government except for a few leftists.

Assad seems to have nothing to lose at this point, especially when you put Gaddafi's fate into consideration.


Seems like the stories we have being reading are vastly different cause it's the rebels that have completely withdrawn from every major city.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 25 2013 22:22 GMT
#756
On April 26 2013 07:11 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:09 Shiragaku wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:05 Sent. wrote:
Can someone explain to me why would the Syrian government use chemical weapons? It's like they're giving the world the perfect pretext for military intervention. I know it sounds stupid but it seems like they're doing rebels a favor.

Assad is getting really desperate right now. The Ba'athists are losing right now due to massive funding from the West with minimal support from Russia, Iran, and China and the whole industrial world seems to care less about the Syrian government except for a few leftists.

Assad seems to have nothing to lose at this point, especially when you put Gaddafi's fate into consideration.


Seems like the stories we have being reading are vastly different cause it's the rebels that have completely withdrawn from every major city.

Aleppo is where it is all at right now :D
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 25 2013 22:36 GMT
#757
What's the point of cities if the rebels control the countryside and can shot down aircraft, which they have, while guerrilla activity goes on inside said cities.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2013 22:48 GMT
#758
On April 26 2013 07:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What's the point of cities if the rebels control the countryside and can shot down aircraft, which they have, while guerrilla activity goes on inside said cities.


I ask you the same question because that's what their primary target was, big cities.
And in the last months they have being gradually pushed out.
Don't forget that assad has long range static artillery, they can't just camp somewhere in the middle of nowhere cause it will rain steel.

It's a fact that they lost the war. And now nato wants to be done with the whole waiting-for-the-rebels-to-win ordeal and decided to go and bomb them with the pretext of chemicals.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 23:57:54
April 25 2013 23:55 GMT
#759
On April 26 2013 06:50 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:48 xDaunt wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:39 Steveling wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:31 Steveling wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:28 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Guys the WMD intelligence is soil samples smuggled out of Syria to the UN that have tested positive. The only thing is there's no way of knowing if the samples are from government firing chemical shells, or the rebels, or the rebels breaking open some shells they've captured and getting soil samples that way.


I'm gonna break a leg here and say that there is the possibility for them to not exist at all. lol


Syria's stockpiles of chemical weapons are well-documented and the Syrian government still tries to maintain the highest security it can around stockpile sites in areas it still controls.

This isn't the US saying one thing and most of the rest of the world disagreeing, everyone was in agreement before this civil war ever started that Syria does have chemical weapons stockpiles.



Are they well documented? Really? Can you share an official article providing pictures, I would love to see that.
And who's everyone, usa and puppet nations? Yes I'm sure they agree, just like sadam had nuclears or was it bio? Don't even remember.

The rebels have lost almost all control in syria and nato comes for the rescue with this make believe hazard.

Go do a Google search. It isn't even debatable that Syria has chemical weapons.


So that's a no?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/syria-we-would-never-use-chemical-weapons-even-against-israel-29219929.html
Even Syria said they have them.......
More:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443437504577544632378473006.html
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
April 26 2013 00:13 GMT
#760
On April 18 2013 05:34 Boblion wrote:
Interesting documentary (graphic content tho)


Thank you for this btw. Whatever happens after the dust settles there is going to be a lot of bad blood in syria... I sometimes wonder if things in the ME would be better if countries were divided by ethnic/tribal affiliation.
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