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Please guys, stay on topic.
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Would be kind of a role reversal that Europe provides the weapons, Jordan, Turkey, and the Saudis provide the training while the US provides humanitarian aid.
The United States has approved providing Syrian rebels with $123m in new nonlethal aid that may include body armour and other types of supplies that have not been part of the assistance package in the past.
The additional money will double the nonlethal assistance to the Syrian opposition as well as increase humanitarian aid.
"This bloodshed needs to stop and that's what brought us here tonight on Saturday and a very early Sunday morning to talk about the possibilities for peace and transition," US Secretary of State John Kerry said at a Friends of Syria meeting in Istanbul.
The nonlethal aid could include armoured vehicles, night vision goggles and advanced communications equipment.
Al Jazeera’s Hashem Ahelbarra, reporting from Istanbul, said that while the Syrian opposition said that the increase in aid was a step forward, the nature of the support coming from the West remains “very limited”.
“The major demand by the opposition has been basically ... some tactical weapons to be able to even the playing field and be able to cope with the massive weaponry that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had.”
Foreign ministers from the main supporters of the rebels trying to topple the Syrian government were meeting in Istanbul over the weekend to increase pressure on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down.
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Giving 123 million dollars to terrorists seems like a smart move. Good job.
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Some guys in the boston bombing thread were asking why the global anti-usa agenda.
Well here's the answer.
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This sounds like good news to me. Even though we don't know very much about the opposition, the old government must be put to justice.
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On April 22 2013 02:24 Steveling wrote:
Some guys in the boston bombing thread were asking why the global anti-usa agenda.
Well here's the answer.
Shows how little you know on the Syrian situation.
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On April 22 2013 02:28 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 02:24 Steveling wrote:
Some guys in the boston bombing thread were asking why the global anti-usa agenda.
Well here's the answer. Shows how little you know on the Syrian situation.
Do enlighten me.
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On April 22 2013 02:17 Zeo wrote:
Giving 123 million dollars to terrorists seems like a smart move. Good job.
Not 123 million dollars. Did you even read the quoted text?
Nonlethal material aid worth 123 million dollars.
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Davutoglu is a very funny guy.
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On April 22 2013 02:38 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 02:17 Zeo wrote:
Giving 123 million dollars to terrorists seems like a smart move. Good job. Not 123 million dollars. Did you even read the quoted text? Nonlethal material aid worth 123 million dollars.
And the terrorists trade the $123m of 'nonlethal' aid for $123m worth of weapons ect. Same thing, less illegal wording
EDIT: Or they can spend more money on guns now that they have some 'nonlethal' aid.
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On April 22 2013 02:38 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 02:17 Zeo wrote:
Giving 123 million dollars to terrorists seems like a smart move. Good job. Not 123 million dollars. Did you even read the quoted text? Nonlethal material aid worth 123 million dollars.
Read StealthBlue's quoted article. It still includes equipment used in combat operations.
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I guess you guys also believe that the rebels are "liberating" syria from the big bad dictator right?
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Following this logic, we should give the opposants of Obama some nuclear war heads to even the playing field
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On April 22 2013 02:49 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 02:38 Praetorial wrote:On April 22 2013 02:17 Zeo wrote:
Giving 123 million dollars to terrorists seems like a smart move. Good job. Not 123 million dollars. Did you even read the quoted text? Nonlethal material aid worth 123 million dollars. Read StealthBlue's quoted article. It still includes equipment used in combat operations.
Time and time again it seems like the U.S. pulls this kind of thing. I wonder when we will realize that funding rebels in an attempt to nation build even when it isn't top down building doesn't work ;_;.
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On April 22 2013 02:53 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 02:49 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On April 22 2013 02:38 Praetorial wrote:On April 22 2013 02:17 Zeo wrote:
Giving 123 million dollars to terrorists seems like a smart move. Good job. Not 123 million dollars. Did you even read the quoted text? Nonlethal material aid worth 123 million dollars. Read StealthBlue's quoted article. It still includes equipment used in combat operations. Time and time again it seems like the U.S. pulls this kind of thing. I wonder when we will realize that funding rebels in an attempt to nation build even when it isn't top down building doesn't work ;_;.
What do you mean? Of course the government realizes this.
You're under the assumption the the US govt. is run by a bunch of 5 year-olds. Sure, it seems that way when they give their "justifications" for doing what they do ("democracy", "nation building", etc.), but that's not the truth. On the contrary, they are incredibly effective in what they're actually doing.
Our intent (and no one's ever in history in similar situations) is not to nation build. It's to topple an unsubmissive regime in the hopes of establishing a submissive one, even if it is led by Islamic terrorists. If Assad played ball like the Bahraini king, we'd be supporting him in crushing rebellions. Kinda like how the French pretty much gave even half a shit about the American Revolution because it would significantly weaken their British enemies.
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US Defense Secretary Hagel says US intelligence confirms with 'some... confidence' that Syria has used chemical weapons - @Reuters, @AP
US intelligence assessments on Syria chemical weapons are not enough; credible and corroborated facts needed, White House says - @Reuters
More: US prepared for 'all contingencies' on Syria to respond to any confirmed use of chemical weapons, White House says - @Reuters
More: US intelligence community assesses with varying degrees of confidence that Syrian regime used sarin on a small scale, White House says - @Reuters
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Really? they are playing the WMD card again?
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On April 22 2013 02:51 Diks wrote:
Following this logic, we should give the opposants of Obama some nuclear war heads to even the playing field
didnt realize Obama was shooting civilians in hospitals.
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More: US intelligence assesses Syria used chemical weapons, but facts needed, White House says - @Reuters
Sen. Dianne Feinstein says 'Syria has used chemical weapons on a small scale'; 'It is clear that "red lines" have been crossed and action must be taken to prevent larger scale use' - statement via @NBCNews
White House official alludes to Iraq weapons of mass destruction reports when saying it needs to verify chemical weapons claims further - @AliNBCNews
White House official: If a determination is reached that a 'red line' on chemical weapons use in Syria is crossed, US will consult with allies on next steps - @Reuters
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Sigh, it seems NATO and the US is gearing up for another war in the Middle East, now that this "red line" has been crossed. Who knows if it was really Assad who deployed these chemical weapons or the glorified rebels themselves. I truly fear what the Middle East will look like within the next five years, given the current escalation of events in Syria as well as tensions between Israel and Iran.
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