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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
Algar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States27 Posts
March 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#281
It's funny reading the differences of opinion on here and on Sherdog about this same video.
Thanks. I like to play.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
March 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#282
serves the little shit.

@matjlav, yes, they do. Bullies can ruin your social life. They make your life miserable and should burn.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
March 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#283
On March 15 2011 04:50 exploding.godhand wrote:
serves the little shit.

@matjlav, yes, they do. Bullies can ruin your social life. They make your life miserable and should burn.


kids act stupid and hurt someone during grade school, ergo they deserve to have their entire lives ruined

forgive me if I don't follow the logic.
Kniwom
Profile Joined February 2011
South Africa17 Posts
March 14 2011 19:53 GMT
#284
On March 15 2011 04:32 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:28 Kniwom wrote:
If a kid plays in traffic, and gets hit by a car, did he deserve it? If a kid shoots himself in the head while playing with his father's gun, did he deserve it? Not really, the blame lies on his parents for not teaching him that it is dangerous and irresponsible.

A kid punches and teases someone 3 times their size until the guy snaps and breaks their neck... did the kid deserve it, probably not. It is his parent's fault for raising him to believe that that kind of behavior is acceptable. The blame cannot be put on Casey.


30% parents 70% stupid child's own fault.

You can't just randomly sit your child down and say 'son, don't pick on people who look like mike haggar, they might slam your head into the cold hard concrete'. You can't lay too much blame on the parents. It's not like what this kid was doing was particularly unusual behaviour, most kids do it. It's hard to school your kid not to poke fun at people.



I do see what you are saying. However, I don't think its unreasonable to sit your son down and say "don't fight/pick on/bully anyone at school (irrespective of how big they are)", and then to punish them if any bullying is done.
The fact that most kids do it is all the more disturbing, it means that parents/teachers are not taking it as seriously as they should. Apart from the obvious mental and physical trauma the victim goes through, this video shows that it can be very dangerous and possibly even fatal for the bully.

Kids minds are simple, if they do something and it benefits them, they do it again. If it has negative consequences for them, then not so much. At the moment, the only negative consequences a bully ever gets are from the victim when they finally stand up for themselves, which means they do not stop until it is (possibly) too late.

Punishment for bullying should be severe, not just a suspension from school (Free days off school is not a punishment imo).



Kishuu
Profile Joined January 2010
Brazil108 Posts
March 14 2011 19:54 GMT
#285

okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?


This is what I mean when I say people in TL started to talk like lawyers. And stupid ones at that. Seriously, when did he said all bullies deserve their necks to be snapped?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 14 2011 19:55 GMT
#286
On March 15 2011 04:48 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:41 andrewlt wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:35 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:33 andrewlt wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:26 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:24 RoosterSamurai wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:20 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:15 andrewlt wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:59 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:55 Ocedic wrote:
[quote]

Kids being kids argument is fine and dandy then you have shit like Columbine happen BECAUSE of bullies. Sorry but bullying isn't as harmless as you make it out to be. Are you going to tell me that rape is just 'men being men?'


bullying is common behavior in kids, and kids who bully often turn out just fine in adulthood. and no, Columbine didn't happen because of bullies; it happened because two kids brought guns to school and opened fire on their classmates. Bullying was one of the factors that contributed to their decision, but that doesn't mean that somehow bullies are directly responsible for school shootings.

i am so bewildered right now, are you actually arguing that kids who bully deserve broken necks? what. the. fuck. that is all I have to say.


Completely wrong. Bullies don't turn out to be fine. They're the ones who fill up prisons when they grow older. People don't just grow out of this phase. The little shithead was obviously a habitual bully and this type of behavior doesn't just go away when people grow up.


show me a study that shows that above 90% or so of children that exhibit bullying behaviors end up incarcerated, and maybe i'll give a thought to your idea that bullies should be thought of as if they are predestined to end up as the scourge of society. i'm guessing there isn't one.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/healthmedical/a/bullying.htm


that's not what i asked for


You're asking for too much and your stance that bullying is essentially harmless is ridiculous.


I'm not asking for too much to justify the idea that bullies, as a general rule, "don't turn out to be fine." In fact, I think that statistically speaking, 90% is still not enough to make that generalization.

and show me where I said that bullying is essentially harmless.



Your second paragraph contradicts the first. If 90% is still not enough to make that generalization, then bullying is essentially harmless.


okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?



I didn't say they all deserve their necks snapped. I took issue with your statement that they often turn out fine in adulthood. They don't.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 14 2011 19:55 GMT
#287
We always ask "why don't kids toughen the fuck up when being picked on." Well, that's exactly what this kid fucking did, props too him, the other kids even had the audacity to try and video record it, that's intentionally going out of your way to bully someone particularly, kid fucking deserved it.
InsaniaK
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden120 Posts
March 14 2011 19:56 GMT
#288
On March 15 2011 04:19 Almin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:15 InsaniaK wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:30 Almin wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:21 carloselcoco wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.



I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!

I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.

Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.



LOL! I think you just proved my point. It is quite clear that you were/are a bully. You feel sorry for the bully because he got owned by the bullied kid. Is that bullies #1 fear?

BTW, the kid would not have gone to jail if he had killed the guy who was bulling him. He did it in self defense and that gets him out of trouble with the law.

Tell me, a guy with a revolver shoots in the arm another guy for no reason. The wounded guy sees a shotgun, takes it and fires back, killing the guy who first shot him. Would you feel sorry for the guy who died instead of being wounded like he wounded the other guy or would you prise the actions of the guy who killed as an act of self defense?

No, I never was a bully, but when i was bullied, I beat the shit out of the guy so he never messed with me again. I didn't almost kill him but I made sure he didn't mess with me again.

The kid would've gone to court and would've probably been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter or some other charge.

Your example is terrible, guns are designed to kill. Punches are to hurt people, body slams have a chance of killing people/hurting them severely.

Both the kids were wrong, I would be defending Casey too, if he chose to beat the crap out of him with HIS FISTS/legs, but to throw the kid nearly head first on the pavement? You guys are taking it way too far.


Ehm, so considering Casey's height/weight, he could probably 1hit KO that kid. You'd actually prefer him knocking him out and possibly breaking his neck on something then start kicking him?
So: Body slam = possible broken neck
Fists/feet = Possible broken neck + broken ribs/nose etc

Which one would you prefer?

Hitting someone, a low chance of knocking him unconscious(especially at that age, i mean comon)

Kicking them in the stomach or something yeah, not the face, too dangerous, but not too high imo.

Bodyslam=high chance, considering if he landed wrong.

Yeah I would've preferred to see a fistfight, much less dangerous, you're blowing your statistics out of control.



Ok, so. First you say that fists/feet would be a lot better, then you say that he should only kick him in certain spots. Next are you going to say that he only should stroke him with a feather?
Seriously, if he had hit him with all he had in the face, that kid'd be down.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 19:56:58
March 14 2011 19:56 GMT
#289
On March 15 2011 04:54 Kishuu wrote:
Show nested quote +

okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?


This is what I mean when I say people in TL started to talk like lawyers. And stupid ones at that. Seriously, when did he said all bullies deserve their necks to be snapped?


On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.


Yes, I'm twisting the truth so heavily
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 19:59:35
March 14 2011 19:57 GMT
#290
Best comment from Reddit:

"No one is going to understand this because of some very serious problems with our culture and a general inability to think rationally, but when a child approaches another child and punches him in the face, that is assault.

The word 'bully' should be removed from the vocabulary. There is no excuse for criminal behavior at any age. It is completely irresponsible to allow children to behave this way. That criminal behavior continues into adulthood, and the children who are assaulted physically or emotionally are affected just the same or even worse than you would be if it happened to you in your parking lot at work.

Just so people can try to comprehend this, imagine, you have just driven up to your building at work, and get out of the car. As you approach the building, one of the other employees starts yelling at you and calling you names. Several other people are walking by at the time, including one of the bosses. The boss stops for a moment to look sternly at the employee who is calling you names and yelling at you, and tells him, "knock off the bullying Tom, its time to get to work".

Then, as you boss walks into the building, Tom, your coworker, punches you in the face.

There is a belief that physical and emotional assault should be treated differently in children. In fact, it is tolerated, and those children being abused are expected to retaliate physically. What should happen is that those children who physically or emotionally assault other children should be removed from the school immediately and rehabilitated."

On March 15 2011 04:56 matjlav wrote:
Yes, I'm twisting the truth so heavily


Yes, you are.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 14 2011 19:57 GMT
#291
[image loading]

Hopefully he gets on the high school wrestling teams and ends up with a scholarship to a div 1 school
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 20:00:36
March 14 2011 19:58 GMT
#292
On March 15 2011 04:53 Kniwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:32 sc4k wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:28 Kniwom wrote:
If a kid plays in traffic, and gets hit by a car, did he deserve it? If a kid shoots himself in the head while playing with his father's gun, did he deserve it? Not really, the blame lies on his parents for not teaching him that it is dangerous and irresponsible.

A kid punches and teases someone 3 times their size until the guy snaps and breaks their neck... did the kid deserve it, probably not. It is his parent's fault for raising him to believe that that kind of behavior is acceptable. The blame cannot be put on Casey.


30% parents 70% stupid child's own fault.

You can't just randomly sit your child down and say 'son, don't pick on people who look like mike haggar, they might slam your head into the cold hard concrete'. You can't lay too much blame on the parents. It's not like what this kid was doing was particularly unusual behaviour, most kids do it. It's hard to school your kid not to poke fun at people.



I do see what you are saying. However, I don't think its unreasonable to sit your son down and say "don't fight/pick on/bully anyone at school (irrespective of how big they are)", and then to punish them if any bullying is done.
The fact that most kids do it is all the more disturbing, it means that parents/teachers are not taking it as seriously as they should. Apart from the obvious mental and physical trauma the victim goes through, this video shows that it can be very dangerous and possibly even fatal for the bully.

Kids minds are simple, if they do something and it benefits them, they do it again. If it has negative consequences for them, then not so much. At the moment, the only negative consequences a bully ever gets are from the victim when they finally stand up for themselves, which means they do not stop until it is (possibly) too late.

Punishment for bullying should be severe, not just a suspension from school (Free days off school is not a punishment imo).



Yeah I agree with all you say I just personally can't see any more blame being laid on the parents. It's hard to get through to your kids about the negative impact of bullying and what it feels like for the other party involved. It can take until someone is 20+ to experience any real feelings of sympathy...It's the school who needs to have immense reprimanding ability, like you said. You need to have zero tolerance on bullying. So maybe it should be 30% parents, 30% kid and 40% school or something.

Still, epically badass street justice, I'm still reeling from the high levels of awesome.

Haha I hope they make more SF style vids like this, already laughing my ass off:


andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 14 2011 19:58 GMT
#293
On March 15 2011 04:56 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:54 Kishuu wrote:

okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?


This is what I mean when I say people in TL started to talk like lawyers. And stupid ones at that. Seriously, when did he said all bullies deserve their necks to be snapped?


Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.


Yes, I'm twisting the truth so heavily



Attributing the quote of the guy you responded to to everybody else who responded to you isn't twisting the truth so heavily?
Klunssila
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
March 14 2011 19:58 GMT
#294
This video made my day

-bullied person.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
March 14 2011 19:59 GMT
#295
On March 15 2011 04:55 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:48 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:41 andrewlt wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:35 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:33 andrewlt wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:26 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:24 RoosterSamurai wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:20 matjlav wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:15 andrewlt wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:59 matjlav wrote:
[quote]

bullying is common behavior in kids, and kids who bully often turn out just fine in adulthood. and no, Columbine didn't happen because of bullies; it happened because two kids brought guns to school and opened fire on their classmates. Bullying was one of the factors that contributed to their decision, but that doesn't mean that somehow bullies are directly responsible for school shootings.

i am so bewildered right now, are you actually arguing that kids who bully deserve broken necks? what. the. fuck. that is all I have to say.


Completely wrong. Bullies don't turn out to be fine. They're the ones who fill up prisons when they grow older. People don't just grow out of this phase. The little shithead was obviously a habitual bully and this type of behavior doesn't just go away when people grow up.


show me a study that shows that above 90% or so of children that exhibit bullying behaviors end up incarcerated, and maybe i'll give a thought to your idea that bullies should be thought of as if they are predestined to end up as the scourge of society. i'm guessing there isn't one.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/healthmedical/a/bullying.htm


that's not what i asked for


You're asking for too much and your stance that bullying is essentially harmless is ridiculous.


I'm not asking for too much to justify the idea that bullies, as a general rule, "don't turn out to be fine." In fact, I think that statistically speaking, 90% is still not enough to make that generalization.

and show me where I said that bullying is essentially harmless.


Your second paragraph contradicts the first. If 90% is still not enough to make that generalization, then bullying is essentially harmless.


okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?


I didn't say they all deserve their necks snapped. I took issue with your statement that they often turn out fine in adulthood. They don't.


Okay, show me the study. Show me that the majority of kids who bully (or kids who get bullied) during school don't grow up to be normal, productive adults.

And if we're going to get back on this argument, let me clarify that just because kids on both sides get through the bullying experience to become successful adults, does NOT mean that the experience was "essentially harmless." I don't know why you equate these two things.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#296
My jaw dropped when i saw him body slam the kid. Kid could easily have died. That kid deserves something, but not death. If his leg was broken I'd smile.

I'm surprised a big kid like that would take it for that long. He shoulda floored that kid off the first punch. Not the first punch that day, but the first punch the kid ever threw at him however long ago it would have been.
BoldMan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States168 Posts
March 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#297
what i don't understand is how a little frail 3 year old can have the guts (even with the support of his group) to "bully" someone bigger, stronger, and taller than him

lol wtf?

nice body slam though, that was like BATISTA style

the little kid bully probably got abused (read: raped in the ass by his dad) as a kid

some fucked up shit
[b] Bold men make bold statements [/b]
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
March 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#298
On March 15 2011 04:57 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:56 matjlav wrote:
Yes, I'm twisting the truth so heavily


Yes, you are.


what a detailed argument
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
March 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#299
Man this got my blood boiling really hard. Fuck yeah Casey, you're the man!
God is dead.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 14 2011 20:01 GMT
#300
I think the kid deserved it. I hate idiots like that.

Go casey!
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