Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
On March 15 2011 04:57 acker wrote: Best comment from Reddit:
"No one is going to understand this because of some very serious problems with our culture and a general inability to think rationally, but when a child approaches another child and punches him in the face, that is assault.
The word 'bully' should be removed from the vocabulary. There is no excuse for criminal behavior at any age. It is completely irresponsible to allow children to behave this way. That criminal behavior continues into adulthood, and the children who are assaulted physically or emotionally are affected just the same or even worse than you would be if it happened to you in your parking lot at work.
Just so people can try to comprehend this, imagine, you have just driven up to your building at work, and get out of the car. As you approach the building, one of the other employees starts yelling at you and calling you names. Several other people are walking by at the time, including one of the bosses. The boss stops for a moment to look sternly at the employee who is calling you names and yelling at you, and tells him, "knock off the bullying Tom, its time to get to work".
Then, as you boss walks into the building, Tom, your coworker, punches you in the face.
There is a belief that physical and emotional assault should be treated differently in children. In fact, it is tolerated, and those children being abused are expected to retaliate physically. What should happen is that those children who physically or emotionally assault other children should be removed from the school immediately and rehabilitated."
Great comment and exactly right. It's unfortunate that we live in a world with so many obstinate people who will shrug bullying off as 'boys will be boys'.
okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?
This is what I mean when I say people in TL started to talk like lawyers. And stupid ones at that. Seriously, when did he said all bullies deserve their necks to be snapped?
On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote: Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
Yes, I'm twisting the truth so heavily
Attributing the quote of the guy you responded to to everybody else who responded to you isn't twisting the truth so heavily?
Sorry, if you jump into an argument whose crux was whether bullies deserve to have their necks broken in defense of the "pro" position without specifying that you don't agree with that person, I'm going to assume that you agree with them.
Are you guys sure this story is accurate? The little kid who is punching the other guy in the face has to be the bullied kid who is taking a courageous stand... If the bigger kid isn't looking at the smaller kid, he probably wouldn't even realize he has been touched. Probably the only way you are going to faze him is if you're video taping a bunch of sissy girls poking him. They should be held back a couple of grades. I saw the big kid teach the little kid why there are weight distinctions/classes in fighting. Suspend him? They should make him a tutor for the kid. The guy probably saved his life in the future.
That type of violence is terrible. Kids need to be unafraid to tell an adult when they're being bullied, and I think we can thank macho macho american media like movies and TV shows for burning that into their minds. It's ok to tell an adult!
Really? I'm almost being forced to think this is fake. Who the fuck in 5th grade fucks with someone that is like 30lbs heavier than them? Perhaps the kid was hella timid in the past, and if he was constantly being picked on ect then congrats, I just don't believe anyone would actually pick on a kid twice their size. Rofl slam 10/10
I don't understand how most people seem to think it's all black and white. What he did was completly unacceptable, you can not throw someone head first into the pavement, ever. I know what it's like to be bullied, and I know what it's like to be big. I'm 2 meters tall and I'm no Peter Crouch. I had 3, 3 year older kid torment me for well over 3 years, and I mean proper torment. Such as wrestle you to the ground take your cloths and burn them torment.
I'm happy that this guy stood up to a bully, but he did it in a very wrong way. Nobody deserves to live their lives with a broken neck. The fear I have for this is that getting this much recognition for doing this will make this a "Signature move" something he'll use everytime ´he gets in a fight. And one day someone will get really badly hurt or worse, and trust me if that happens regardless of how much of a bully the other guy is two lives will be ruined that day.
So actually in terms of punishment ratio I think the school got it right. The bully got the worst punishment becuase he did a really bad thing over a long period of time and the kid got a punishment for handling it in a unacceptable way.
As for not thinking that way when in a fight... If you are big you have to, every single time. I've been in plenty of fights in my life and I've held back in every single one of them because it's really easy to be hard on the internet say that killing someone is deserved, but in real life if you harm someone that will scar them for life it will haunt you, regardless of how much of an ass they've been to you.
What worries me more than anything is 1. He got suspended. 2. A lot of people are saying he should be suspended.
I dunno how other countries work, but here in Norway you'd have to kill someone to get suspended. Fights break out all the time, and you can't do anything about it. Kids are kids after all.
Also, there is this..I dunno, what is it called? Oh yeah, a LAW that says you have the right to defend yourself with similar means as the attacker. I can't tell for sure what country this is, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't have this exact law. The bully in this video is clearly shown punching Casey.
The video finally loaded, and holy fuck that was awesome. The immense power from an adrenaline fueled rage... so beast. Casey, you're incredible. Stand up for yourself mate!
You could say he was... incontrol. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
On March 15 2011 05:06 NoobSkills wrote: Really? I'm almost being forced to think this is fake. Who the fuck in 5th grade fucks with someone that is like 30lbs heavier than them? Perhaps the kid was hella timid in the past, and if he was constantly being picked on ect then congrats, I just don't believe anyone would actually pick on a kid twice their size. Rofl slam 10/10
Note the two+ people in the background, waiting to help out and videotaping the event. You really think this coward would have picked on him by himself? Assholes had it all laid out for humiliation before Casey pulled a Zangief.
And bullying by smaller people happens all the time, simply because most people expect the larger person to be the bully most of the time for some strange reason. And because they don't look like bullies, smaller bullies are the hardest to pin down and easiest to sympathize with.
Plus it's easier to blame the victim if he goes for a teacher.
I felt a small feel of adrenaline rushing through me when I watched him getting punched in the face. I was bullied a few times, but not the degree of the video but enough to retaliate and release my anger. Though all those times I was too scared to do anything because I thought I would seriously hurt the other person.
Maybe I might've done the same thing that this kid did (not that I could've grabbed someone and slammed them on the floor but to do something drastic) but again I was afraid of seriously hurting the other person. I was the type and still am to keep my anger in so I felt like I could've done anything to make sure I won the fight (of course to not seriously injure but to make sure the other guy stayed down) with my bare hands.
Hopefully the kids will leave him alone... or they'll just gang up on him and jump him when he's alone. I'm glad he stood up for himself good job yo.
On March 15 2011 05:06 NoobSkills wrote: Really? I'm almost being forced to think this is fake. Who the fuck in 5th grade fucks with someone that is like 30lbs heavier than them? Perhaps the kid was hella timid in the past, and if he was constantly being picked on ect then congrats, I just don't believe anyone would actually pick on a kid twice their size. Rofl slam 10/10
You clearly haven't seen many kids that are bigger than the bully but still getting picked on. There are a lot of reasons why he was getting picked on and you listed one of them.
There was a time at a family party that this kid was sprinkling confetti all over me and it itched with annoyance like a motherfucker. I looked at my grandpa and he made a little "wack him with the piñata stick" so I did and we probably would've fought. I was super nervous and scared but I stayed calm and stood my ground until he did something but it got broken up by some dude. Then later he left me alone and I think I sensed a little fear in him which was cool but weird at the same time.
On March 15 2011 05:06 Hynda wrote: I don't understand how most people seem to think it's all black and white. What he did was completly unacceptable, you can not throw someone head first into the pavement, ever. I know what it's like to be bullied, and I know what it's like to be big. I'm 2 meters tall and I'm no Peter Crouch. I had 3, 3 year older kid torment me for well over 3 years, and I mean proper torment. Such as wrestle you to the ground take your cloths and burn them torment.
I'm happy that this guy stood up to a bully, but he did it in a very wrong way. Nobody deserves to live their lives with a broken neck. The fear I have for this is that getting this much recognition for doing this will make this a "Signature move" something he'll use everytime ´he gets in a fight. And one day someone will get really badly hurt or worse, and trust me if that happens regardless of how much of a bully the other guy is two lives will be ruined that day.
So actually in terms of punishment ratio I think the school got it right. The bully got the worst punishment becuase he did a really bad thing over a long period of time and the kid got a punishment for handling it in a unacceptable way.
As for not thinking that way when in a fight... If you are big you have to, every single time. I've been in plenty of fights in my life and I've held back in every single one of them because it's really easy to be hard on the internet say that killing someone is deserved, but in real life if you harm someone that will scar them for life it will haunt you, regardless of how much of an ass they've been to you.
Sorry to say but your reasoning and excuses have credited three years of torment while this kid who stood up for himself probably won't get bullied anymore.
On March 15 2011 05:06 Excludos wrote: What worries me more than anything is 1. He got suspended. 2. A lot of people are saying he should be suspended.
I dunno how other countries work, but here in Norway you'd have to kill someone to get suspended. Fights break out all the time, and you can't do anything about it. Kids are kids after all.
Also, there is this..I dunno, what is it called? Oh yeah, a LAW that says you have the right to defend yourself with similar means as the attacker. I can't tell for sure what country this is, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't have this exact law. The bully in this video is clearly shown punching Casey.
Does schools circumvent their own national laws?
No you're allowed to defend yourself, but you're not allowed to use excessive force. If this had been between adults he would have been convicted of using excessive force. He had the guy completly pinned down and trying to break his neck would never ever hold up as self defence.
Yer it could have ended bad but tbh if he's getting bullied im right behind him in saying the small guy got what he deserved imo.
To the people saying Casey should have told parents/teachers etc, from experience nothing will change and the little kid will keep on bulling him. How do you stop it, prower slam the bully into the floor.
On March 15 2011 05:13 Kennigit wrote: If he wants real #tigerblood he should come back from his suspension, walk up to the short kid and body slam him again LOL.
LMAO so true. Bring his own camera crew. Here's another you tube link btw:
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, the quality of the slam was epic.
