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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 11 2011 22:36 GMT
#1121
Normal background radiation for the Continental US (courtesy of USGS):
[image loading]
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
March 11 2011 22:38 GMT
#1122
AP: Japan says radiation levels surged outside nuclear plant.
Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 22:41:49
March 11 2011 22:38 GMT
#1123
On March 12 2011 07:34 kaisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 07:15 Serpico wrote:

Did you guys catch a car driving the OTHER way of the direction in that video?


Yes. This is nothing more than a fake troll video for attention =/

On March 12 2011 07:36 Dimagus wrote:
Normal background radiation for the Continental US (courtesy of USGS):
[image loading]


This will hopefully quell some of the "omg meltdown" concerns a few people here have. The radiation levels are serious, but mostly for the facility itself and not the environment or surrounding residents.

I think the worst part of the radiation would either be a decrease in public approval of nuclear, or damage to the facility rendering power issues and whatnot.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 22:44:10
March 11 2011 22:43 GMT
#1124
http://www.ustwrap.info/multi/foxtokimekitonight::tbstv::yokosonews

More feeds (3 streams together). seems like there are some snow avalances at nigata(?)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
March 11 2011 22:44 GMT
#1125
On March 12 2011 05:02 e4e5nf3 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2011 04:39 lokiM wrote:

havent seen this posted here, pretty scary stuff



Geezus. You can actually see several cars driving in the background, seconds before the wave reaches the roads. It's pretty much guaranteed they and others off camera got engulfed by the water and debris. Poor souls.


I see this and then I read the reports about a couple of hundreds missing and three hundred dead. I just can't believe those numbers.
I
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 11 2011 22:49 GMT
#1126
On March 12 2011 07:38 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 07:34 kaisen wrote:
On March 12 2011 07:15 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COqOWwVKr98

Did you guys catch a car driving the OTHER way of the direction in that video?


Yes. This is nothing more than a fake troll video for attention =/

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 07:36 Dimagus wrote:
Normal background radiation for the Continental US (courtesy of USGS):
[image loading]


This will hopefully quell some of the "omg meltdown" concerns a few people here have. The radiation levels are serious, but mostly for the facility itself and not the environment or surrounding residents.

I think the worst part of the radiation would either be a decrease in public approval of nuclear, or damage to the facility rendering power issues and whatnot.


51,207 people are being evacuated. There are hospital patients that can't be transported.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 22:51:14
March 11 2011 22:51 GMT
#1127
On March 12 2011 07:38 Serejai wrote:
This will hopefully quell some of the "omg meltdown" concerns a few people here have. The radiation levels are serious, but mostly for the facility itself and not the environment or surrounding residents.

I think the worst part of the radiation would either be a decrease in public approval of nuclear, or damage to the facility rendering power issues and whatnot.


If everyone sat down and did nothing then yes, there would be a meltdown risk. The reactors are supposed to automatically shut down in the event of a large earthquake but apparently a backup power generator failed and one of the reactors did not complete its full shut down. There's still heat inside the system which is causing 1.5x normal pressure, power is down, and there is fire damage to the plant.

We'll know more in the next few hours, but as long as they manage to cool it back down (a continuous process over 2 days) there's not going to be any disaster.
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
March 11 2011 22:55 GMT
#1128
Man, that's unbelievable. I couldn't imagine going through something like that. I'd not know what the hell to do.

I hope only the worst is over =/
XK ßubonic
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 11 2011 22:56 GMT
#1129
[image loading]

Do you guys see the jets?

:/
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 11 2011 22:56 GMT
#1130
On March 12 2011 07:49 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 07:38 Serejai wrote:
On March 12 2011 07:34 kaisen wrote:
On March 12 2011 07:15 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COqOWwVKr98

Did you guys catch a car driving the OTHER way of the direction in that video?


Yes. This is nothing more than a fake troll video for attention =/

On March 12 2011 07:36 Dimagus wrote:
Normal background radiation for the Continental US (courtesy of USGS):
[image loading]


This will hopefully quell some of the "omg meltdown" concerns a few people here have. The radiation levels are serious, but mostly for the facility itself and not the environment or surrounding residents.

I think the worst part of the radiation would either be a decrease in public approval of nuclear, or damage to the facility rendering power issues and whatnot.


51,207 people are being evacuated. There are hospital patients that can't be transported.


2239: Japanese nuclear safety officials have said the problems at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power plant represent "no immediate health hazard" to people living nearby. Some 45,000 people living within a 10km (6-mile) radius of the plant were told to evacuate as radiation levels rose to 1,000 times above normal in one reactor.

It doesn't matter that they're being evacuated - nobody said they weren't. But there's currently no danger to anyone in the area. It's simply a precautionary measure.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
March 11 2011 22:57 GMT
#1131
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2011/03/11/exp.irpt.mcdonald.skype.quake.cnn.html

This is my apartment building behind the guy you can hear - Ryan lives two doors down. Right now back at home after spending the night at an evac centre, trying to get a grasp on what's happening. Listening for everything we can about the nuclear plant, people are being told to stay indoors within 10k of the plant. We're further away so no warnings as yet. Ambulances are constantly passing by, helicoptors are flying overhead. We may have to go back to the ecac centre as we have no water and little food, but we have heat and the emergency services can reach us. We are lucky.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/11/us-japan-quake-reactor-idUSTRE72A2NR20110311?pageNumber=2

No idea is this was posted yet but this is a reuters report - looks like pressure will be vented giving some release of what's built up, and the US army is bringing in coolant to help deal with the problem. Snow is falling and the roads are iced up, but that's not the biggest worry - outside our apartments a sinkhole seems to be developing, so a water main may have burst. Fun times.
You live the life you choose.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 22:58:02
March 11 2011 22:57 GMT
#1132
On March 12 2011 07:56 kaisen wrote:
Do you guys see the jets?
:/


At first I thought they were whales, which would be rather ironic given Japan's illegal whaling industry. But knowing they're jets.. that's even worse.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 11 2011 22:58 GMT
#1133


dont know if this was posted already....
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 23:01:06
March 11 2011 22:58 GMT
#1134
Apparently, they are from Matsushima Airbase, so yeah... those are definitely fighter jets...
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#1135
On March 12 2011 07:56 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 07:49 dump wrote:
On March 12 2011 07:38 Serejai wrote:
On March 12 2011 07:34 kaisen wrote:
On March 12 2011 07:15 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COqOWwVKr98

Did you guys catch a car driving the OTHER way of the direction in that video?


Yes. This is nothing more than a fake troll video for attention =/

On March 12 2011 07:36 Dimagus wrote:
Normal background radiation for the Continental US (courtesy of USGS):
[image loading]


This will hopefully quell some of the "omg meltdown" concerns a few people here have. The radiation levels are serious, but mostly for the facility itself and not the environment or surrounding residents.

I think the worst part of the radiation would either be a decrease in public approval of nuclear, or damage to the facility rendering power issues and whatnot.


51,207 people are being evacuated. There are hospital patients that can't be transported.


2239: Japanese nuclear safety officials have said the problems at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power plant represent "no immediate health hazard" to people living nearby. Some 45,000 people living within a 10km (6-mile) radius of the plant were told to evacuate as radiation levels rose to 1,000 times above normal in one reactor.

It doesn't matter that they're being evacuated - nobody said they weren't. But there's currently no danger to anyone in the area. It's simply a precautionary measure.


Thanks, I'm not exactly a physicist so I couldn't really figure out why they're making a big deal.
NoUShutUp
Profile Joined January 2008
United States172 Posts
March 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#1136
2252: The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said the cooling systems of three reactors at second nuclear power plant, Fukushima-Daini, are malfunctioning, according to the Kyodo news agency. The plant is 11km (7 miles) to the south of Fukushima-Daiichi, where the cooling system one of its reactors is not working and pressure is rising.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 11 2011 23:06 GMT
#1137
On March 12 2011 08:02 NoUShutUp wrote:
2252: The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said the cooling systems of three reactors at second nuclear power plant, Fukushima-Daini, are malfunctioning, according to the Kyodo news agency. The plant is 11km (7 miles) to the south of Fukushima-Daiichi, where the cooling system one of its reactors is not working and pressure is rising.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698


If it's not one thing, it's another. Guess we'll have to wait for more info on this one now.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#1138
So, does nuclear reactor actually explode when the temperature keeps rising? Or will there be just a radioactive leak?
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 11 2011 23:14 GMT
#1139
On March 12 2011 08:12 kaisen wrote:
So, does nuclear reactor actually explode when the temperature keeps rising? Or will there be just a radioactive leak?

If anything it would be a leak if pressure continues to rise inside.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
March 11 2011 23:14 GMT
#1140
2310: More from the Tokyo Electric Power Company: It says the ability to control pressure in some of the reactors at Fukushima-Daini has been lost. Pressure is stable inside the reactors, but rising in the containment vessels, a company spokesman says.
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