Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.
Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
On March 17 2011 14:33 Souma wrote: All this fearmongering on American news channels... Holy crap I'm so pissed right now. I'm supposed to study abroad in three months and now my dad is telling me not to because of all this bullshit news.
Of course, I still plan on going, but it's irritating nonetheless.
I agree that it's incredibly frustrating how irresponsible so much of the media is turning out to be. And it is causing all sorts of panic problems like the poor Chinese buying out the iodised salt supply and suchlike.
On your particular issue - three months is a long time, things will be a lot calmer and clearer by then. So don't feel like you have to win the verbal battle with your dad in the next five minutes. Play for the midgame, so to speak. And (I'm sure you know this already but anyway) remember that it's natural for a parent to want to insulate their child from the world. They panic easy. It's frustrating but don't lose sight of where the panic comes from - concern and care for you.
On March 17 2011 14:33 Souma wrote: All this fearmongering on American news channels... Holy crap I'm so pissed right now. I'm supposed to study abroad in three months and now my dad is telling me not to because of all this bullshit news.
Of course, I still plan on going, but it's irritating nonetheless.
I agree that it's incredibly frustrating how irresponsible so much of the media is turning out to be. And it is causing all sorts of panic problems like the poor Chinese buying out the iodised salt supply and suchlike.
On your particular issue - three months is a long time, things will be a lot calmer and clearer by then. So don't feel like you have to win the verbal battle with your dad in the next five minutes. Play for the midgame, so to speak. And (I'm sure you know this already but anyway) remember that it's natural for a parent to want to insulate their child from the world. They panic easy. It's frustrating but don't lose sight of where the panic comes from - concern and care for you.
Where are you coming to in Japan incidentally?
Didn't have a verbal abuse with him, I just let it go and went back to my room. I'm not mad at him, I'm mad at the news. No reason to be mad at him.
I'll be going to Tokyo, so I should be safe regardless.
I decided to donate money to the victims of the crisis but i can't seem to find any site that accepts donations by without paypal. Anyone know any charity organisations that accepts money by other than paypal?
On March 17 2011 14:52 frodoguy wrote: I decided to donate money to the victims of the crisis but i can't seem to find any site that accepts donations by without paypal. Anyone know any charity organisations that accepts money by other than paypal?
I suggest trying to through the website of the red cross in your country. Usually there is the ability to send a bill for the donation, or to pay by credit card, pay pal etc. depending on what country you are in ofcourse.
On March 17 2011 14:33 Souma wrote: All this fearmongering on American news channels... Holy crap I'm so pissed right now. I'm supposed to study abroad in three months and now my dad is telling me not to because of all this bullshit news.
Of course, I still plan on going, but it's irritating nonetheless.
I agree that it's incredibly frustrating how irresponsible so much of the media is turning out to be. And it is causing all sorts of panic problems like the poor Chinese buying out the iodised salt supply and suchlike.
On your particular issue - three months is a long time, things will be a lot calmer and clearer by then. So don't feel like you have to win the verbal battle with your dad in the next five minutes. Play for the midgame, so to speak. And (I'm sure you know this already but anyway) remember that it's natural for a parent to want to insulate their child from the world. They panic easy. It's frustrating but don't lose sight of where the panic comes from - concern and care for you.
Where are you coming to in Japan incidentally?
Didn't have a verbal abuse with him, I just let it go and went back to my room. I'm not mad at him, I'm mad at the news. No reason to be mad at him.
I'll be going to Tokyo, so I should be safe regardless.
The media is absolutely horrendous, and some media is really crossing the line, the most infamous evening paper in sweden have been spouting headlines that are just absolute bullshit. For example, the helicopter missions that were carried out this morning is reported in this paper under the headline in massive letters
I think it's beautiful to see, from both parties. I absolutely love that most of these Netizens believe they can learn from the Japanese and how they reacted to the earthquake. I think everyone can learn from it; some comments make allusion to the looting during Katrina, and I myself though about the riots when a hockey team win/loose. Made me : (
Thanks for that link. It can all get a bit overwhelming at times. Cheered me up.
It's good to see positive reactions. I wish we could love each other in prosperous times as much (or even more?) as we do in hard times. Why so much hate in this world?
I wish good luck and courage to the people who go trough this, and the people that work really hard for them.
Really admirable behavior from the Japanese people.
I'm chatting with one of my ex Japanese professors on MSN.
She has a friend living in Sendai who made it out safe. They evacuated temporarily but it seems Sendai is getting back to normal, although many people lost their homes. Electricity has returned, and there were many who were lucky enough to not lose their homes. That's great news.
Even in the worst-stricken areas, it wasn't all death and destruction.
Yeah the news has been frigging annoying. Try listening to it from this side. We're got a lot of Japanese media and official information that was telling us everything was under control, that continued until around the time of the second explosion at the plant. Now it's pretty dry stuff, telling us just the facts. A lot of people seem leery of just trusting the media without questioning it. Of course, the foreign media has been pretty alarmist in a lot of circles - saying stuff like 'threatening to spiral out of control', 'desperation by the Japanese authorities' etc isn't helping anyone's mindset here right now. It's been a real struggle to find news that is actually informed and not sensationalist.
On March 17 2011 13:36 TalonKarrde wrote: Hey Guys I will be traveling to Japan on Saturday m y wife and 7 month old daughter are there hopefully I will be able to bring em back to Canada and away from this scary nuclear catastrophe wish me luck guys!!!
It seems a woman in Singapore has put her government to shame with the size of her donation towards Japanese quake relief efforts. Elaine Low presented a cheque for 1m Singaporean dollars ($780,000) - or double what the government gave - to Japan's ambassador, Yoichi Suzuki, on Wednesday, an official with the embassy told AFP. Her family runs an Indonesia-based coal mining business that imports equipment from Japan and also supplies coal to Japanese power plants. She said she wanted to do her bit to help out the Japanese affected by the disaster.
How cool is that. Always did like Singaporeans (<3 km!).
On March 17 2011 13:36 TalonKarrde wrote: Hey Guys I will be traveling to Japan on Saturday m y wife and 7 month old daughter are there hopefully I will be able to bring em back to Canada and away from this scary nuclear catastrophe wish me luck guys!!!
Wow, i hope theyre cool. Are they too far away from the plant? when you comback tell us how things are...
Thanks Guys She is close to Tokyo but it`s still closer then I`d like I will be going and bringing some supplies and stuff to her family. I tried to buy some iodine tablets just in case but there are none where I`m at (Whitehorse Yukon). I`m only going for like 1 day but I just pray everything will stay normalish and they can get the situation under control I will bring pics and stuff but nothing super close to the Fukushima plant. But stuff like deserted Tokyo and crowded Narita. Thanks guys !!! TL fighting disasters!
On March 17 2011 14:26 dump wrote: These plants aren't going to be usable after all this, are they?
So once all the dust is settled, Japan's also facing an energy crisis...
Don't think so. Isn't it one of those plant is gonna retire soon. Japan can always replace their short-term need with coal and petrolium.
Yeah, the fukushima plant #2 reactor was suppose to be decommissioned. If anything, it's good that the whole plant is going to be replaced, hopefully with a LFTR which is cheaper, so much safety, and 100% baller
Each plant system that had seawater pumped has to be scrapped. The ones that have run on distilled water the entire time could be reused, but it's way too early to assess their condition. You use distilled water in the reactors for a few reasons, but one is because something like seawater is going to unpredictably affect the surfaces of the reactor, affecting the nuclear energy production in an unpredictable manner (depending on what surfaces changed it's unclear how neutron absorption would change, making it hard to predict the actual temperature / steam / power production.) Nuclear science errs on the side of caution. The reactors with sea water will never be used for power production again.
On March 17 2011 14:52 frodoguy wrote: I decided to donate money to the victims of the crisis but i can't seem to find any site that accepts donations by without paypal. Anyone know any charity organisations that accepts money by other than paypal?
I suggest trying to through the website of the red cross in your country. Usually there is the ability to send a bill for the donation, or to pay by credit card, pay pal etc. depending on what country you are in ofcourse.
Donation links for Credit Cards. Both links are for Japan-specific donations.
On March 17 2011 14:52 frodoguy wrote: I decided to donate money to the victims of the crisis but i can't seem to find any site that accepts donations by without paypal. Anyone know any charity organisations that accepts money by other than paypal?
lots of places accept donations with credit card. is that what you're looking for? i donated to american red cross with a credit card.
there are also many celebrities running donation accounts, but unless you have a japanese bank account, it is much better to just donate to local places instead of having your donation be eaten up by wire transfer fees and currency exchange fees and such.
speaking of which, the amount of aid pouring in from celebrities and companies, whether its monetary or something that makes use of their talents is really touching...
The Belgium Institute for Space Aeronomy has posted projection graphs of the radiation of the recent reactor explosions - not anything to be concerned of but still interesting to note.
God I hope thats fake, I can't imagine how callous you would have to be to actually run that as a front page.
It's almost certainly real. That's the NY Daily News. If people in NY want serious news they buy the Times. If they want something a little...different, they buy the DN or the Post.
I think it's beautiful to see, from both parties. I absolutely love that most of these Netizens believe they can learn from the Japanese and how they reacted to the earthquake. I think everyone can learn from it; some comments make allusion to the looting during Katrina, and I myself though about the riots when a hockey team win/loose. Made me : (
Thanks for that link. It can all get a bit overwhelming at times. Cheered me up.
It's good to see positive reactions. I wish we could love each other in prosperous times as much (or even more?) as we do in hard times. Why so much hate in this world?
I wish good luck and courage to the people who go trough this, and the people that work really hard for them.
In situation of crisis, people are rarelly selfish and almost always show impressive behavior / tremendous courrage. But still, Japan crisis doesn't change anything about the situation in some part of sub saharian africa or the general inequality in our society. I'm not sure the "hate" is gonna go away.
On March 17 2011 15:42 Sanctimonius wrote: Yeah the news has been frigging annoying. Try listening to it from this side. We're got a lot of Japanese media and official information that was telling us everything was under control, that continued until around the time of the second explosion at the plant. Now it's pretty dry stuff, telling us just the facts. A lot of people seem leery of just trusting the media without questioning it. Of course, the foreign media has been pretty alarmist in a lot of circles - saying stuff like 'threatening to spiral out of control', 'desperation by the Japanese authorities' etc isn't helping anyone's mindset here right now. It's been a real struggle to find news that is actually informed and not sensationalist.
Meh.
I have to say BBC is doing a pretty good job. I follow their live feed and they don't try make it look worse but stick to post actual news of what's going on.
On March 17 2011 15:42 Sanctimonius wrote: Yeah the news has been frigging annoying. Try listening to it from this side. We're got a lot of Japanese media and official information that was telling us everything was under control, that continued until around the time of the second explosion at the plant. Now it's pretty dry stuff, telling us just the facts. A lot of people seem leery of just trusting the media without questioning it. Of course, the foreign media has been pretty alarmist in a lot of circles - saying stuff like 'threatening to spiral out of control', 'desperation by the Japanese authorities' etc isn't helping anyone's mindset here right now. It's been a real struggle to find news that is actually informed and not sensationalist.
Meh.
I have to say BBC is doing a pretty good job. I follow their live feed and they don't try make it look worse but stick to post actual news of what's going on.
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