I'm in the process of building a presentation on eSports. I am studying Software Engineering and the main aspect of this presentation is how software development has the ability to create an entire industry and I will be using Korean eSports as the main topic.
Now I need some suggestions for photographs you think define eSports. Jaedong kissing a trophy, 10,000 spectators in a stadium, a PC bang filled with gamers etc.
Make sure to use a picture from the Korean Air OSL Finals player entrance! huge number of fans in a massive hangar and players entering via jumbo jet is epic.
If you can find a bigger version of this: That would be good, not to forget NeverGG has a large archive of photos listed on this website that you can use. In addition, remember that its not only Starcraft that is big in Korea, there where a number of leagues for Kart Rider and DnF.
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
On January 18 2011 11:26 Juliette wrote: being an FPS fan..
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
Thanks for thinking of me guys :D I'm fine with my photos being used, but please don't use any of the really old/crappy ones thanks. That Boxer photo is one of my favorites that I ever shot.
On January 18 2011 16:18 NeverGG wrote: Thanks for thinking of me guys :D I'm fine with my photos being used, but please don't use any of the really old/crappy ones thanks. That Boxer photo is one of my favorites that I ever shot.
How can we have a thread about Korean e-sports photos without thinking of you ? This Boxer photo is also one of my favorite, and every time I think about Boxer, I have this picture in mind. Thanks !
Lol I love combofiend's reaction, at least I think that's him in the glasses.
Yeah thats combofiend lol.
Not a picture, but Mike Ross is the peoples champ, and this video reminds me of summarizing esports, at least summarizing hype, in the fighting game community
Start the video at 2 minutes 55 seconds or so, I can't set it up on TL to embed the time.
I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
I was gonna write something out but frankly the most upvoted comment does it justice far better than I could.
Anyone would expect the move to win the match. And as we can all see, Ken didn't just pull off the 15 consecutive ticks at the 15 right moments, he used the slight opening exposed as Chun-Li finished her move, and landed a combo on her that took away half of her life bar - and won the match. Under the high-stress world champion tournament situation. Is it surprising that he got a standing ovation and made fighting game history?
Not to mention EVO is the olympics of fighting games, and they were playing for gold.
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
Its a full parry, normally if you block you take chip damage, so he'd be dead in that situation since he has 1 pixel of hp left.
Meanwhile Chun Li is using the super ability which is extremely fast.
To do a full parry you have to hit a certain button and aim your stick in the exact direction that the incoming strike hits you.
Basically you have to time and hit your buttons exactly in like 20 situations then reverse the situation to come back. Extremely difficult to do, but for a pro who has done it so much, he has surely seen the situation and parried it before, fact is that was during the semifinals of the largest fighting game tournament in the world, so the setting is pretty insane.
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
Its a full parry, normally if you block you take chip damage, so he'd be dead in that situation since he has 1 pixel of hp left.
Meanwhile Chun Li is using the super ability which is extremely fast.
To do a full parry you have to hit a certain button and aim your stick in the exact direction that the incoming strike hits you.
Basically you have to time and hit your buttons exactly in like 20 situations then reverse the situation to come back. Extremely difficult to do, but for a pro who has done it so much, he has surely seen the situation and parried it before, fact is that was during the semifinals of the largest fighting game tournament in the world, so the setting is pretty insane.
Sorry guy, but you don't need to press any buttons to parry. All you need to do is press into the direction of the attack (i.e. forward or down).
Everything else you said is spot on. =D It was an insane moment and what got me to play 3S.
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
Its a full parry, normally if you block you take chip damage, so he'd be dead in that situation since he has 1 pixel of hp left.
Meanwhile Chun Li is using the super ability which is extremely fast.
To do a full parry you have to hit a certain button and aim your stick in the exact direction that the incoming strike hits you.
Basically you have to time and hit your buttons exactly in like 20 situations then reverse the situation to come back. Extremely difficult to do, but for a pro who has done it so much, he has surely seen the situation and parried it before, fact is that was during the semifinals of the largest fighting game tournament in the world, so the setting is pretty insane.
Sorry guy, but you don't need to press any buttons to parry. All you need to do is press into the direction of the attack (i.e. forward or down).
Everything else you said is spot on. =D It was an insane moment and what got me to play 3S.
haji and I discussed this before so I'll add this as well
Justin wasn't a main 3s player, but good enough to get there. Daigo is daigo (he reads people extremely well blah blah)
Basically, round 1 of that match, daigo rapes justin round 2 justin beats daigo (daigo was playing stupid like c.mk xx shoryu regardless if c.mk was blocked or hit)
Now before the super parry at round three, you see daigo throw an ex fireball then another regular fireball. Now that's just useless really in 3s given that justin can parry all that without pressure, but for you non-3s players, parrying gives you some super meter. daigo threw those ON PURPOSE so justin would get the meter to super because he knows Justin will try to chip him out.
You can see before the super comes out daigo's ken inches forward, already expecting the super and land the parry.
Also the presence of mind by daigo to jump at the last kick and parry for a maximum damage combo based on the situation instead of just normally parrying the last kick.
On January 18 2011 16:18 NeverGG wrote: Thanks for thinking of me guys :D I'm fine with my photos being used, but please don't use any of the really old/crappy ones thanks. That Boxer photo is one of my favorites that I ever shot.
How can we have a thread about Korean e-sports photos without thinking of you ? This Boxer photo is also one of my favorite, and every time I think about Boxer, I have this picture in mind. Thanks !
Thank you :D I've had kind of a crappy day, so hearing something like this really cheered me up ^_^
At first i thought it was huk looking rather aggressive, then i looked at picture 2 then i seen him. Definitely the funniest thing i've seen this month.
Haha, BRAT_OK is damn intimidating. If only he played more, and play in more tournaments, i never really see him around anymore, but still, he seems like a badass dude
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
Its a full parry, normally if you block you take chip damage, so he'd be dead in that situation since he has 1 pixel of hp left.
Meanwhile Chun Li is using the super ability which is extremely fast.
To do a full parry you have to hit a certain button and aim your stick in the exact direction that the incoming strike hits you.
Basically you have to time and hit your buttons exactly in like 20 situations then reverse the situation to come back. Extremely difficult to do, but for a pro who has done it so much, he has surely seen the situation and parried it before, fact is that was during the semifinals of the largest fighting game tournament in the world, so the setting is pretty insane.
Sorry guy, but you don't need to press any buttons to parry. All you need to do is press into the direction of the attack (i.e. forward or down).
Everything else you said is spot on. =D It was an insane moment and what got me to play 3S.
haji and I discussed this before so I'll add this as well
Justin wasn't a main 3s player, but good enough to get there. Daigo is daigo (he reads people extremely well blah blah)
Basically, round 1 of that match, daigo rapes justin round 2 justin beats daigo (daigo was playing stupid like c.mk xx shoryu regardless if c.mk was blocked or hit)
Now before the super parry at round three, you see daigo throw an ex fireball then another regular fireball. Now that's just useless really in 3s given that justin can parry all that without pressure, but for you non-3s players, parrying gives you some super meter. daigo threw those ON PURPOSE so justin would get the meter to super because he knows Justin will try to chip him out.
You can see before the super comes out daigo's ken inches forward, already expecting the super and land the parry.
Also the presence of mind by daigo to jump at the last kick and parry for a maximum damage combo based on the situation instead of just normally parrying the last kick.
That is awesome. I have seen the video before too, not being a SF player, but rewatching it and understanding the context makes it so much more enjoyable. Thank you!
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
for context, this is what chun li's special looks like if you dont parry it, it happens when you see her charge up and zooms in, she does it twice in the video
To parry an attack you must move your controller the exact moment the attack hits, which is quite hard to do but obviously not impossible
Gah, I was SUCH a hater at Na'Vi back in January/Februray 2010 when they won the IEM World Championships holy crap lol, I said it was a fluke, they had an easy bracket, etc. etc.
Then in the following months you watch each and every tournament, see that markeloff is the greatest awper we've seen in years, that edward is completely unrivaled with the pistol, and starix is a genuine superstar.
I'm a big fan of theirs now, I'm glad they destroyed fnatics prize money record and hope they continue to succeed this year. (Especially after one of the most thrilling finishes ever in WCG World Finals when they beat MTW in that triple overtime set, omg)
Since you guys are talking about SF, this is what hooked me in to Marvel (yeah, many people hate it, whatever)
Don't care what you guys say, a pixel comeback in a game where 90% of the stuff done can actually do chip damage is amazing. =)
as for pics
I know it looks simple, but back when I was a newcomer to pro-BW (2007.. late I know T_T) hype pictures like these helped stir up interest at how such a community can be so awesome enough to do these things.
It would be great if entrance pictures of those competing in the finals in BW were here. For example, the hangar entrance. That was cool renting/using planes, also going down an elevator in a hangar.
That Street Fighter game is really great. Wow..... I guess that would make him a "legend". Like, whenever you mention something, it automatically connects/refers to that certain person.
Great thread, as a new-comer to e-sports it's great to be able to see some of the iconic photos/clips from it's history, especially the Street Fighter moment. I've never liked fighting games but.... damn. Talk about epic.
On January 18 2011 11:26 Juliette wrote: being an FPS fan..
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
I find it funny that youre a fan of FPS yet still post a picture of a consolegame which is the most horrid atrocitiy when it comes to FPS :D But true, its a good picture.
I'm getting serious goosebumps every single time I see this.
NEver been a streetfighter fan or anything; however after getting the back story of this; you cant help but get goosebumps even though you have no relevant knowledge of the players.
You know its epic when the crowd reacts after he parries the first few hits.
Lovin this thread. Any chance we could get some context/descriptions on all of these images? Something along the lines of who, when, and why it was so important.
On January 18 2011 11:26 Juliette wrote: being an FPS fan..
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
I find it funny that youre a fan of FPS yet still post a picture of a consolegame which is the most horrid atrocitiy when it comes to FPS :D But true, its a good picture.
i enjoyed h3's lifespan . h3 was a better console game then gears2 lol. at least
i have another one actually (just dug it up, couldnt find exactly the one i wanted )
On January 18 2011 11:26 Juliette wrote: being an FPS fan..
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
I find it funny that youre a fan of FPS yet still post a picture of a consolegame which is the most horrid atrocitiy when it comes to FPS :D But true, its a good picture.
i enjoyed h3's lifespan . h3 was a better console game then gears2 lol. at least
i have another one actually (just dug it up, couldnt find exactly the one i wanted )
Saying its better than gears2 doesn't say anything lol, 3rd person shooters have never done anything, nor have games with health regen, in a global setting.
Anyways, that was the beginning of TD's downfall when they were stupid enough to piss off heinz and have him leave, which pissed off pistola which made him leave, which meant gg. those two were the team.
I don't really play smash, (watch it sometimes) but TBQH I didn't really understand it =\ can someone enlighten me? (seems to me jigglypuff is bad? + Comeback factor, something like that?)
On January 23 2011 04:58 myrmidon2537 wrote: I don't really play smash, (watch it sometimes) but TBQH I didn't really understand it =\ can someone enlighten me? (seems to me jigglypuff is bad? + Comeback factor, something like that?)
Jigglypuff isn't really used much from my understanding, but the attack that ended up finshing Peach off is hard as hell to land, especially at high levels. You basically have to be inside the opponent. If you miss, Puff falls asleep.
Also, Complexity Redemption is a really good esports video. I don't have a link 'cause I'm lazy. Maybe later. :B
On January 23 2011 04:58 myrmidon2537 wrote: I don't really play smash, (watch it sometimes) but TBQH I didn't really understand it =\ can someone enlighten me? (seems to me jigglypuff is bad? + Comeback factor, something like that?)
Jigglypuff isn't really used much from my understanding, but the attack that ended up finshing Peach off is hard as hell to land, especially at high levels. You basically have to be inside the opponent. If you miss, Puff falls asleep.
Also, Complexity Redemption is a really good esports video. I don't have a link 'cause I'm lazy. Maybe later. :B
No, Puff is actually considered top tier, difficult to make top tier though since survivability is low, but with a lot of proper air normals, puff is amazing.
The down B attack is difficult to pull off but for a pro its actually natural, but a risky move which is why you won't see it much, it was just a combination of that being the finishing blow in a tournament with some hype involved, but there is really nothing special about that video.
And if you guys are all going to be posting videos instead of the thread title of PHOTOS that define esports, and if yo'ure all going to be posting fighting game hype, you can't beat this.
15,000 dollar money match, another 42,000 dollars worth of side bets at the venue.
PS: For all who don't get it, strider/doom is a team in MvC3 that Clockw0rk immortalized and perfected, you'll see that even day[9]'s old livestream account was called "striderdoom".
Unfortunately, it'll only be the 2nd best team in MvC2 history
About that "downfall of an emperor" post, which effectively answered my question of who it was, can someone tell me when that picture was taken? I'm guessing it was when he lost to iloveoov back in 2004 ish 2-3 where he would otherwise have won a Golden Mouse award?
Credit to another guy on the semi final thread for making this
Then how about this:
Also I see a lot of these pictures are branching away from the OP's goal of defining *Korean* esports - topic subject being a bit too broad.
I would say the picture of the massive crowd arena and the *many* tears shed would easily define the eSports of Korea. Many non-gamers have the perception that gamers are just rotting their lives away. To the professionals in Korea, this is their passion. Games aren't just a medium to escape reality.
^ That was probably my fav wcg moment. I remember watching the first game thinking creo would get rolled, then the series ended up like that.. so epic.
Didn't Day9 say that he actually knows Clockw0rk? I've also known that tasteless played marvel 2 as well so its not far off to assume that day plays it as well (I think I heard tasteless plays team scrub, he even gave a shoutout to SRK before)
TL fan made magazines have awesome photos as well, but I don't have time to search for it right now though =( just a heads up
On January 18 2011 11:26 Juliette wrote: being an FPS fan..
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
lol, Walshy was on my first cs team [poo] back in the day. He went by Walshypimp back then and wasn't very good. I guess he was meant for consoles.
On January 23 2011 04:58 myrmidon2537 wrote: I don't really play smash, (watch it sometimes) but TBQH I didn't really understand it =\ can someone enlighten me? (seems to me jigglypuff is bad? + Comeback factor, something like that?)
Jigglypuff isn't that bad at all, probably top 3. The hype was from that it was the finals and it was Armada (best European player) vs Mango (best american).
Mango had dominated America for a long time and practically never lost, until this 16 year old kid from Sweden showed up and raped all of USA without effort, the only one that stod a chance was Mango.
Armada was a few hits from victory (and becoming world champion), when Mango just said "Fuck it" and jumped and rested (down-B) Armada. It's the hardest move to land in the game pretty much, and if you miss it Jigglypuff will fall asleep for around 5-6 seconds, giving the opponent the chance to charge any attack and probably kill you.
It was also at Genesis, the biggest Smash tournament ever held, with almost 1000 people participant.
On January 23 2011 04:58 myrmidon2537 wrote: I don't really play smash, (watch it sometimes) but TBQH I didn't really understand it =\ can someone enlighten me? (seems to me jigglypuff is bad? + Comeback factor, something like that?)
Jigglypuff isn't that bad at all, probably top 3. The hype was from that it was the finals and it was Armada (best European player) vs Mango (best american).
Mango had dominated America for a long time and practically never lost, until this 16 year old kid from Sweden showed up and raped all of USA without effort, the only one that stod a chance was Mango.
Armada was a few hits from victory (and becoming world champion), when Mango just said "Fuck it" and jumped and rested (down-B) Armada. It's the hardest move to land in the game pretty much, and if you miss it Jigglypuff will fall asleep for around 5-6 seconds, giving the opponent the chance to charge any attack and probably kill you.
It was also at Genesis, the biggest Smash tournament ever held, with almost 1000 people participant.
Thanks, re-watching this now and perhaps make better sense of it :D
yeah the fact that he jumped to parry the last hit to be able to finish him in one combo was just .............. this dude is ridiculous, I get massive chills every time I watch this
yeah the fact that he jumped to parry the last hit to be able to finish him in one combo was just .............. this dude is ridiculous, I get massive chills every time I watch this
really that's nothing special, he personally said in an interview that he does that he parries that combo all the time, this was nothing new to him.
It was a nice comeback tho, and cool because of the hype.
A video not an image, but this was basically the height of CS 1.6.
Edit: This is ESWC 2007 finals. In the intro the guy's giving the number of live viewers from the various streams and HLTV adding up to roughly 300K, with 5K in the building.
On January 18 2011 11:26 Juliette wrote: being an FPS fan..
Team carbon 09 (defy, walshy, shockwave, naded some backstory: + Show Spoiler +
the guy standing up with his arms up is walshy, basically the most successful halo player in the game. he'd been playing and winning since halo 1 and in halo 3 his old team, final boss (THE halo team) kicked him off. In halo 2 there were 2 dominant teams, Final Boss and Carbon. Walshy joins carbon in halo 3 and defeats his old team final boss at the LB finals to face the then #1 team. basically his moment of triumph since he hadnt done much in halo 3 and neither had carbon. being a carbon fan i was ecstatic.
its that victory feeling where you're like, i finally did it that makes this so defining for me.
lol the most successful halo player ever is ogre 2 by far mlg did a video about how he was the most successful halo player of all time
You see more passion in E sports photos because they practice more than most sports and do it purely for competition and love of the game rather than money. In most other sports the players have a hard time holding on to why they originally loved the game. Great thread.
OMG the Mango vs Armada match was amazing. If I recall, Armada basically dominated Mango for the first half of that set, and Mango was down 0-2 and rallied back. The whole match was straight up mind games and who was one step ahead. The other notable thing about that video was Mango hadn't done a single Rest (the instant kill move he uses at the end) the entire match. So to see that end the very last game was incredible.
That is such an awesome picture! Really shows Artosis' passion for the game, I love it!
Seriously? I like Artosis and I think thats a pretty good picture but I think saying that shows anything other than Artosis is standing really really close to a huge ass screen.. is overstating it. A lot.
On December 14 2011 16:02 reptile wrote: I know this is blasphemy, but can someone tell me the story behind this photo of the player crying? I'm dying to know.
On December 14 2011 16:02 reptile wrote: I know this is blasphemy, but can someone tell me the story behind this photo of the player crying? I'm dying to know.
me too. Who is the guy crying and why?
The guy crying is boxer. The guy patting his back is iloveoov. iloveoov was like MMA in that he was someone no one had heard of, and then boxer took him under his wing, but oov had far more success than MMA. When boxer decided to create his own progaming team, there were 4 players, Boxer (the best terran), one of the best zergs, one of the best protosses, and some kid no one had ever heard of named iloveoov.
So, back in 2001, boxer won two OSLs in a row, and made the final of the next one. OGN decided that if someone (aka boxer) was to win three lifetime osls they would win an additional trophy, the golden mouse. He lost that third finals in 2001, then lost in 2002. Then came 2004, where boxer played his protoge oov in the finals. The five game series (it was a Bo5) is still one of the best osls ever, and oov won it 3-2. That show was immediately after, with boxer crying about getting so close to the golden mouse and missing out. Boxer only made it to the finals one other time, and would never win the trophy that was specifically made for him.
edit: oops, the guy patting his back is the coach. The third guy is oov. Keep in mind that this is oov's first osl, and just won $40000, and he still looks so sad.
It's been already explained I believe. The guy crying is BoxeR. Behind him is his protégé, iloveoov, who just beat him in the finals of the Starleague. Although he just won a Starleague, iloveoov feels really sad to have defeated his master.
On December 14 2011 16:02 reptile wrote: I know this is blasphemy, but can someone tell me the story behind this photo of the player crying? I'm dying to know.
On December 14 2011 16:02 reptile wrote: I know this is blasphemy, but can someone tell me the story behind this photo of the player crying? I'm dying to know.
me too. Who is the guy crying and why?
The guy crying is boxer. The guy patting his back is iloveoov. iloveoov was like MMA in that he was someone no one had heard of, and then boxer took him under his wing, but oov had far more success than MMA. When boxer decided to create his own progaming team, there were 4 players, Boxer (the best terran), one of the best zergs, one of the best protosses, and some kid no one had ever heard of named iloveoov.
So, back in 2001, boxer won two OSLs in a row, and made the final of the next one. OGN decided that if someone (aka boxer) was to win three lifetime osls they would win an additional trophy, the golden mouse. He lost that third finals in 2001, then lost in 2002. Then came 2004, where boxer played his protoge oov in the finals. The five game series (it was a Bo5) is still one of the best osls ever, and oov won it 3-2. That show was immediately after, with boxer crying about getting so close to the golden mouse and missing out. Boxer only made it to the finals one other time, and would never win the trophy that was specifically named for him.
edit: oops, the guy patting his back is the coach. The third guy is oov. Keep in mind that this is oov's first osl, and just won $40000, and he still looks so sad.
Thanks a lot for that. I can't imagine the pressure/desire/determination boxer must've been struggling with trying to win.
Ah, thanks so much for the story there. I really hate that I missed out on BW. I always feel like I'm late to the party since I didnt even know TL or Starcraft existed before SC2.
It's not too late. Knowledge of sc2 TvT should be good enough to get the jist of that finals, just keep in mind that no infantry is used. It was the ever 2004 finals boxer vs iloveoov. Give it a shot.
um some really good halo 2 snaps where final boss played carbon. Id try to find them but its pretty hard! here is a bad quality trash talk vid but shows how i feel about esports i used to play halo 2 reallly really hard and rememer all of these moments in the vid.
I looked through the first five pages and didn't see it but if somebody posted it after that then disregard this. I saw a picture of Boxer still practicing in a completely empty room that had a ton of computers lined up in it too. It was pretty epic especially because everything except him was in black and white. Edit: Just found it on here. Makes me proud to play Terran every time.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
I love boxer as much as the next person; I had the privilege of speaking to him after MLG Anaheim - he's always been my favourite progamer, and he's a big reason of why SC2 exists in such a large way today. However, favouritism is still favouritism.. it's frustrating to see this picture and everyone herald him for it (instead of his many other achievements) when, if given the opportunity, every single computer would be taken by someone that would rather practice at the time.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
I love boxer as much as the next person; I had the privilege of speaking to him after MLG Anaheim - he's always been my favourite progamer, and he's a big reason of why SC2 exists in such a large way today. However, favouritism is still favouritism.. it's frustrating to see this picture and everyone herald him for it (instead of his many other achievements) when, if given the opportunity, every single computer would be taken by someone that would rather practice at the time.
Not like there are portable computers that you could take and use in a hotel room to practice or anything...
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
I love boxer as much as the next person; I had the privilege of speaking to him after MLG Anaheim - he's always been my favourite progamer, and he's a big reason of why SC2 exists in such a large way today. However, favouritism is still favouritism.. it's frustrating to see this picture and everyone herald him for it (instead of his many other achievements) when, if given the opportunity, every single computer would be taken by someone that would rather practice at the time.
Not like there are portable computers that you could take and use in a hotel room to practice or anything...
That's such a stupid argument man. Buying a laptop purely for when I'm at an event where I don't have a PC within reach, which is very very rare, is a huge waste of money, and not even the point..
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
I love boxer as much as the next person; I had the privilege of speaking to him after MLG Anaheim - he's always been my favourite progamer, and he's a big reason of why SC2 exists in such a large way today. However, favouritism is still favouritism.. it's frustrating to see this picture and everyone herald him for it (instead of his many other achievements) when, if given the opportunity, every single computer would be taken by someone that would rather practice at the time.
That's the thing; every single computer wouldn't have been taken. In fact, only one computer was taken. I wonder why that is... not because of favoritism, but because only one person sat down and practiced through the night while everyone else was sleeping.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
I love boxer as much as the next person; I had the privilege of speaking to him after MLG Anaheim - he's always been my favourite progamer, and he's a big reason of why SC2 exists in such a large way today. However, favouritism is still favouritism.. it's frustrating to see this picture and everyone herald him for it (instead of his many other achievements) when, if given the opportunity, every single computer would be taken by someone that would rather practice at the time.
Not like there are portable computers that you could take and use in a hotel room to practice or anything...
That's such a stupid argument man. Buying a laptop purely for when I'm at an event where I don't have a PC within reach, which is very very rare, is a huge waste of money, and not even the point..
I bought a laptop and it was one of the best decisions in my life! I can now play from anywhere, just pack my bag and go to friends houses, lans, starbucks, w/e im playing.
The problem with this, is that every other player gets -kicked- out of the playing area by staff. The fact that they let BoxeR stay and keep playing is ridiculous favouritism.
I don't agree. I do not see this as a problem. IMHO, these kind of privileges are earned. I would find it more disrespectful to ask him to leave. (Like asking MJ to clear the court when he wants to shoot a few extra free throws after a big game ♥). I actually have this picture (different text) as background on my laptop. To me it represents achievement and the will to stay on top. I find it inspiring.
I do agree that all players, in competition, should be treated the same.
I love boxer as much as the next person; I had the privilege of speaking to him after MLG Anaheim - he's always been my favourite progamer, and he's a big reason of why SC2 exists in such a large way today. However, favouritism is still favouritism.. it's frustrating to see this picture and everyone herald him for it (instead of his many other achievements) when, if given the opportunity, every single computer would be taken by someone that would rather practice at the time.
That's the thing; every single computer wouldn't have been taken. In fact, only one computer was taken. I wonder why that is... not because of favoritism, but because only one person sat down and practiced through the night while everyone else was sleeping.
...I don't think you are reading what I'm writing.. if anyone else besides BoxeR (maybe White-Ra would get away with it) attempted to walk into the playing area, they were kicked out almost immediately.
On January 03 2012 05:56 ComaDose wrote: I would be like asking Micheal Jordan to get off the court. It's either favoritism, earned, or an imposed will, or a little bit of all three.
I'm okay with the favouritism, but the picture itself devalues each and every progamer at that event, as it pretty much says that they weren't dedicated enough to keep playing.
On January 03 2012 05:56 ComaDose wrote: I would be like asking Micheal Jordan to get off the court. It's either favoritism, earned, or an imposed will, or a little bit of all three.
I'm okay with the favouritism, but the picture itself devalues each and every progamer at that event, as it pretty much says that they weren't dedicated enough to keep playing.
On January 03 2012 05:56 ComaDose wrote: I would be like asking Micheal Jordan to get off the court. It's either favoritism, earned, or an imposed will, or a little bit of all three.
I'm okay with the favouritism, but the picture itself devalues each and every progamer at that event, as it pretty much says that they weren't dedicated enough to keep playing.
And rightly so.
...Does this make you feel sorry for other players?
Hard work beats talent every time that talent doesn't work hard.
On January 03 2012 05:56 ComaDose wrote: I would be like asking Micheal Jordan to get off the court. It's either favoritism, earned, or an imposed will, or a little bit of all three.
I'm okay with the favouritism, but the picture itself devalues each and every progamer at that event, as it pretty much says that they weren't dedicated enough to keep playing.
And rightly so.
...Does this make you feel sorry for other players?
Hard work beats talent every time that talent doesn't work hard.
Except for the part where the other players weren't allowed to keep playing, but he was. But enough about that picture, honestly. I respect Boxer and all, but how many Koreans practice a million hours a day? Exactly.
On January 18 2011 18:42 Freezy3 wrote: I remember seeing this video before, I've never been a big street fighter fan, or a console fan at all. Would anybody be able to explain the context of it? I take it the block was hard to do?
I was gonna write something out but frankly the most upvoted comment does it justice far better than I could.
Anyone would expect the move to win the match. And as we can all see, Ken didn't just pull off the 15 consecutive ticks at the 15 right moments, he used the slight opening exposed as Chun-Li finished her move, and landed a combo on her that took away half of her life bar - and won the match. Under the high-stress world champion tournament situation. Is it surprising that he got a standing ovation and made fighting game history?
Not to mention EVO is the olympics of fighting games, and they were playing for gold.