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ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
September 19 2004 23:36 GMT
#1
I just wanted to ask some koreans about korean name structure. This question is bothering every time i watch some vod =)
In wcg pages i saw that they write name then surename, but silent_control's name was writen: Do Hyun, Na.
So i assume that his name is Do Hyun and surename is Na.
But then i would think that there are a lot brothers in the progaming scene - all the Baks (BakJeongSuk, BakTaeMin, BakKyungRak and others)
and the other thing about Nal_Ra, why his name is so exceptional? only 2 sylables?
asking just for knowledge, thx in advance =)
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 20 2004 00:17 GMT
#2
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lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
September 20 2004 00:23 GMT
#3
occasionally people do have 2 syllable names like nalra
azndng
Profile Joined July 2004
United States344 Posts
September 20 2004 00:24 GMT
#4
nal ra did an interview, i think its on here, about why he chose that name.
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
September 20 2004 00:33 GMT
#5
i'm curious too
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pkbabanim
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada36 Posts
September 20 2004 00:39 GMT
#6
in korean, family name is at start
bak = family name
i dont like zerg -_-;;
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2004 00:40 GMT
#7
Bak (often romanized Park) is a family name (one of the most common names in korea I think, like top 3).
Which means Jeong Seok (Bak Jeong Seok = Reach) is his name and I guess friends call him by that name (I dont know how it works exactly and I think it differs from person to person how personal they want to get).

Jeong Seok means normal or standard but I'm not sure if it still holds that meaning when you have it as a name. Oh and Yo Hwan means 'from the forest' right?
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Fedaykin
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands2003 Posts
September 20 2004 00:41 GMT
#8
nal ra is not his real name

Nal_ra's name is kang min, which is 'diffrent' since most korean names have a 2 syllable 'first name', and a 1 syllable family name, I think there's been a threat about this.

but, in names we all know:

Hong Jin-ho
Lim Yo-Hwan
Jang Jin-su

The first are family names the other are given names, if I remember correctly
beowolf7
Profile Joined November 2002
Korea (South)68 Posts
September 20 2004 01:09 GMT
#9
On September 20 2004 09:41 Fedaykin wrote:
nal ra is not his real name

Nal_ra's name is kang min, which is 'diffrent' since most korean names have a 2 syllable 'first name', and a 1 syllable family name, I think there's been a threat about this.

but, in names we all know:

Hong Jin-ho
Lim Yo-Hwan
Jang Jin-su

The first are family names the other are given names, if I remember correctly


You are very correct , sir!
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
September 20 2004 03:44 GMT
#10
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
September 20 2004 06:44 GMT
#11
Also remember that last names in Korea (family name I should say) are not so diverse compared to many cultures or countries. Lees and Kims are together like 40% of the population (Don't quote me lol, I'm estimating). Last Name + First Name structure is also used in Japan and I'm sure a few other countries.

Common Family Names: Lee Kim Park Choi Jang Yoo Yoon Goh Cho Jun Im (often spelled Lim in English) Hong

So if you see these in a name, there is a good chance it is the family name.
('''(G_G/'''')
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 20 2004 06:49 GMT
#12
Yeah, there are few Koreans with a 2 syllable name, the only ones I know that are famous are Kang Min [ Nal_ Ra; actually my last name in English is Kang too, my Korean name is Kang Chul Min, so in English my middle name is Chul Min, and Korean people who know me well or my mom well call me Chul Min-a or Chul Min-e, the a and e are added to most all names, don't know the exact rule, it's basically how you call each other if you know them ]

Then there is Kang Ta who is member of H.O.T whom H.O.T.- Forever is named after.

But yeah it's pretty much covered here.

Just because John Brown and Joe Brown have same last names don't mean they are brothers, and neither are Kang Min and I, otherwise I would be fucking awesome at starcraft (--v)
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
September 20 2004 08:00 GMT
#13
haha john brown joe brown my friend's name is morgan freeman shes white morgan freeman is the name of a black actor
related? i think so!
troi oi thang map nai!!!
1024MB
Profile Joined May 2004
United States1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 09:05:03
September 20 2004 09:03 GMT
#14
While we're on the topic of Korean names I'd also like to point out to those of you who don't know that in English, whenever you see an "i" in a Korean name it is always pronounced "EEEEE" as in "beam." For example Kim is not pronounced Kim as in "it" but it sounds more like KEEEM or GEEEM.

Also, all As are pronounced AHHH like the a in "hahaha" Not AYYYY.

Often you will hear journalists totally butcher Korean (and other Asian) names. It makes me upset.

For example the other day I was watching the news and they were talking about a Dr. named Dr. Wang. This is not pronounced "Wayng" as in "way" but rather "WAHng." Watch the BoxeR vs Joyo VOD to see what I am talking about. Joyo's name is Do Jin Kwang (also spelled Doh Jin Kwang). Listen to how they pronounce that.

It annoys me so much when journalists do that.
You learn from losing.
SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
September 20 2004 09:08 GMT
#15
to add to that last post.. Lim Yo Hwan is said "eam yo hwan" the example 1024MB said is correct..
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
September 20 2004 09:14 GMT
#16
While we're on this subject, I was wondering how everyone pronounces these:

Gaema Gowon - I say like Gay-Mah Gow-ahn
Gamei - I say Gahm-eee
Namja Iyagi - Nahm-Jah Eee-yah-gee
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1024MB
Profile Joined May 2004
United States1455 Posts
September 20 2004 09:17 GMT
#17
On September 20 2004 18:14 EvilTeletubby wrote:
While we're on this subject, I was wondering how everyone pronounces these:

Gaema Gowon - I say like Gay-Mah Gow-ahn
Gamei - I say Gahm-eee
Namja Iyagi - Nahm-Jah Eee-yah-gee


I know that Namja one is correct. Not sure about the others though. If I could see them in Hangul it'd be easier.
You learn from losing.
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
September 20 2004 09:17 GMT
#18
my korean friend just says Game I
All Those beneath an angry star
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 20 2004 09:21 GMT
#19
its Game-I

'Gamei' isnt a word as far as i know =/
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iLoveLulu
Profile Joined August 2004
Venezuela457 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 09:30:16
September 20 2004 09:27 GMT
#20
Nal_rA didn't choose his nickname, his team leader (When he Join Nal) choose that for him =P

Interesting, what you all say, ^^ I'm learning :D

Edit:

How to pronunce this:
Requiem - Ri-ki-em ?
Nostalgia - Nos-tel-giah ?
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 20 2004 09:32 GMT
#21
On September 20 2004 18:27 iLoveLulu wrote:
Nal_rA didn't choose his nickname, his team leader (When he Join Nal) choose that for him =P

Interesting, what you all say, ^^ I'm learning :D

Edit:

How to pronunce this:
Requiem - Ri-ki-em ?
Nostalgia - Nos-tel-giah ?


Correct.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 20 2004 09:51 GMT
#22
On September 20 2004 18:27 iLoveLulu wrote:
Nal_rA didn't choose his nickname, his team leader (When he Join Nal) choose that for him =P

Interesting, what you all say, ^^ I'm learning :D

Edit:

How to pronunce this:
Requiem - Ri-ki-em ?
Nostalgia - Nos-tel-giah ?


These are English words, look them up on m-w.com and they will have a pronunciation button next to the word.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 20 2004 09:53 GMT
#23
On September 20 2004 18:03 1024MB wrote:
While we're on the topic of Korean names I'd also like to point out to those of you who don't know that in English, whenever you see an "i" in a Korean name it is always pronounced "EEEEE" as in "beam." For example Kim is not pronounced Kim as in "it" but it sounds more like KEEEM or GEEEM.

Also, all As are pronounced AHHH like the a in "hahaha" Not AYYYY.

Often you will hear journalists totally butcher Korean (and other Asian) names. It makes me upset.

For example the other day I was watching the news and they were talking about a Dr. named Dr. Wang. This is not pronounced "Wayng" as in "way" but rather "WAHng." Watch the BoxeR vs Joyo VOD to see what I am talking about. Joyo's name is Do Jin Kwang (also spelled Doh Jin Kwang). Listen to how they pronounce that.

It annoys me so much when journalists do that.


It annoys me too, join the club.

What annoys me further is that Koreans changed their names so English speakers could better pronounce it but they still suck at it.

But it doesn't bother me to the point where I go around yelling and correcting people about it. Everywhere people call me ' K-ang ' like ' Angry ' and it's pointless trying to get them to say ' Ghang ' Plus Kang is cooler most of the time.

Except for this one time in 5th grade....

Damn that faggot.


' Alex Kang lost his wang when the telephone rang '
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
September 20 2004 09:54 GMT
#24
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
September 20 2004 09:55 GMT
#25
ioi
JAM THE FUCKER!
1024MB
Profile Joined May 2004
United States1455 Posts
September 20 2004 09:56 GMT
#26
On September 20 2004 18:54 Casper... wrote:
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG


You learn from losing.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 10:29:51
September 20 2004 10:28 GMT
#27
Bah didn't see there was a second page answering what I answered in this thread!
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Only)blue
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada113 Posts
September 20 2004 10:37 GMT
#28
it's the same with chinese also.
boxer vs joyo..fat joyo looked like crap before he played.....fat joyo looked like crap AFTER he played.
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
September 20 2004 10:42 GMT
#29
Well they pronouce my last name "Kong" as in King Kong but i have no problem with it =)
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hustler100
Profile Joined August 2004
Korea (South)149 Posts
September 20 2004 13:03 GMT
#30
about the syllables this is what i learned in middle skool when i was here in korea. China back then in the old times were like the big brother to korea. and since names are based on chinese chracters. (so this is before korea had hangul) the chinese would use 2 chinese characters to write their name and korea would use 3. korea passed on chinese chracters to japan. and since korea taught japan and we use 3 chracters japanese people use 4 characters to write their name.
Only)blue
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada113 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 13:07:53
September 20 2004 13:07 GMT
#31
chinese is 3 characters.
boxer vs joyo..fat joyo looked like crap before he played.....fat joyo looked like crap AFTER he played.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
September 20 2004 13:09 GMT
#32
Chinese mainly use 3 characters for their names. The first one is the family name, and is sort of equivelant to the last names in English. Very rarely, a person may have a name with 2 characters or 4 characters. I have never heard of any Chinese person with 1, 5, or more characters in their name.
Only)blue
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada113 Posts
September 20 2004 13:15 GMT
#33
Koreans and Japanese were descendants of chinese werent they?
boxer vs joyo..fat joyo looked like crap before he played.....fat joyo looked like crap AFTER he played.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
September 20 2004 13:16 GMT
#34
On September 20 2004 18:53 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2004 18:03 1024MB wrote:
While we're on the topic of Korean names I'd also like to point out to those of you who don't know that in English, whenever you see an "i" in a Korean name it is always pronounced "EEEEE" as in "beam." For example Kim is not pronounced Kim as in "it" but it sounds more like KEEEM or GEEEM.

Also, all As are pronounced AHHH like the a in "hahaha" Not AYYYY.

Often you will hear journalists totally butcher Korean (and other Asian) names. It makes me upset.

For example the other day I was watching the news and they were talking about a Dr. named Dr. Wang. This is not pronounced "Wayng" as in "way" but rather "WAHng." Watch the BoxeR vs Joyo VOD to see what I am talking about. Joyo's name is Do Jin Kwang (also spelled Doh Jin Kwang). Listen to how they pronounce that.

It annoys me so much when journalists do that.


It annoys me too, join the club.

What annoys me further is that Koreans changed their names so English speakers could better pronounce it but they still suck at it.

But it doesn't bother me to the point where I go around yelling and correcting people about it. Everywhere people call me ' K-ang ' like ' Angry ' and it's pointless trying to get them to say ' Ghang ' Plus Kang is cooler most of the time.

Except for this one time in 5th grade....

Damn that faggot.


' Alex Kang lost his wang when the telephone rang '


not as bad as linh-dang...

that gay little rhyme song that starts oooh eeee oooh ah ah
well heres how my friend changed it...
oooh eeee ooooh ah ah linh dang never gonna get banged oooh eeeee oooh ah ah linh dangs never gonna get banged! -_-;;;;;;;; the class sang that too embarrasing and it was in highschool wtf!
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Fobbish
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Korea (South)1071 Posts
September 20 2004 13:17 GMT
#35
On September 20 2004 22:15 Only)blue wrote:
Koreans and Japanese were descendants of chinese werent they?


no
강함은 타고나는 것이 아니라 만들어 지는 것이다! - 외인구단
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
September 20 2004 13:18 GMT
#36
There are some exceptions to the common 3 sylybles in Korean names, but almost all the names stick to that. Like my brother has 4, but that's even rarer than 2, kinda like Kang-Min (nal_ra) has.
Only)blue
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada113 Posts
September 20 2004 13:19 GMT
#37
fobbish u wouldnt know, are you asian?
boxer vs joyo..fat joyo looked like crap before he played.....fat joyo looked like crap AFTER he played.
Fobbish
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Korea (South)1071 Posts
September 20 2004 13:20 GMT
#38
yes
강함은 타고나는 것이 아니라 만들어 지는 것이다! - 외인구단
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
September 20 2004 13:20 GMT
#39
On September 20 2004 18:32 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2004 18:27 iLoveLulu wrote:
Nal_rA didn't choose his nickname, his team leader (When he Join Nal) choose that for him =P

Interesting, what you all say, ^^ I'm learning :D

Edit:

How to pronunce this:
Requiem - Ri-ki-em ?
Nostalgia - Nos-tel-giah ?


Correct.


not really
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
September 20 2004 13:25 GMT
#40
i like to say Gamei "Game-Eee" just sounds cooler, even if its pronounced wrong..
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
Only)blue
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada113 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 13:28:56
September 20 2004 13:28 GMT
#41
the chinese history is longer is it not?

japanese is for sure they use chinese characters.
boxer vs joyo..fat joyo looked like crap before he played.....fat joyo looked like crap AFTER he played.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
September 20 2004 13:44 GMT
#42
Japanese have some characters that are same and similar, but have a different language.
Only)blue
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada113 Posts
September 20 2004 13:48 GMT
#43
obviously. they copied it from chinese.
boxer vs joyo..fat joyo looked like crap before he played.....fat joyo looked like crap AFTER he played.
Minam_Lee
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)59 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 14:33:18
September 20 2004 14:31 GMT
#44
On September 20 2004 09:41 Fedaykin wrote:
nal ra is not his real name

Nal_ra's name is kang min, which is 'diffrent' since most korean names have a 2 syllable 'first name', and a 1 syllable family name, I think there's been a threat about this.

but, in names we all know:

Hong Jin-ho
Lim Yo-Hwan
Jang Jin-su

The first are family names the other are given names, if I remember correctly


actually boxer is Yim yo hwan
not Lim
and also Lee => Yi
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
September 20 2004 14:32 GMT
#45
On September 20 2004 18:27 iLoveLulu wrote:
Nal_rA didn't choose his nickname, his team leader (When he Join Nal) choose that for him =P

Interesting, what you all say, ^^ I'm learning :D

Edit:

How to pronunce this:
Requiem - Ri-ki-em ?
Nostalgia - Nos-tel-giah ?


Rehk-wee-um
Nohs-tahl-juh
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
September 20 2004 14:36 GMT
#46
requiem and nostalgia are english words
[BOyGiRl]ShaRp
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (S)1912 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 14:41:41
September 20 2004 14:40 GMT
#47
Okay,,, lets learn about Korean names. Bahamut has the right idea about Korean names. Most of them are three syllables but sometimes there are names with two syllables or four syllables. Korean names are composed of a surname (Park, Kim, Lee, Kang) and a name. Korean names are very special in that they have meanings. The surname, like America, is usually dependant on where your ancestors used to live. For example if you are a Mr. Lee, you can suspect that your ancestors come from a city called Kwang Ju, or a few other places. In my case, My surname is An, and since An is not a widespread name, all an's come from a city called Sun-Hung.

And your name also has a meaning too. Most Korean letters are based on Chinese characters and have meanings to it. In my case my name is An-Young-Soo. Young means a road, and Soo means extravagant. So my name means extravagant road; my grandparents wanted my road of life to be extravagant thus my name. Bahamut, your name Chul Min has a meaning too, ask your parents, its really fun to find out. One of my favorite names is Dong-il, which means number one in the east. My friend has that name and he told me his parents gave him the name because they want him to become the number one man in east asia. Anyways, that how Korean names are made.

And to add to that, putting -a or -e next to a name is used for calling. But you only put -e or -a when you call a name that ends with a consonant, and you can only use -ya with a name that ends with a vowel. For example; Chul-Min-a, Chul-Min-e, Young-Soo-ya.
Hexatron Bba!!
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
September 20 2004 15:38 GMT
#48
That's cool.
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
September 20 2004 15:39 GMT
#49
On September 20 2004 23:31 Minam_Lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2004 09:41 Fedaykin wrote:
nal ra is not his real name

Nal_ra's name is kang min, which is 'diffrent' since most korean names have a 2 syllable 'first name', and a 1 syllable family name, I think there's been a threat about this.

but, in names we all know:

Hong Jin-ho
Lim Yo-Hwan
Jang Jin-su

The first are family names the other are given names, if I remember correctly


actually boxer is Yim yo hwan
not Lim
and also Lee => Yi





Reluctant as I am to question a statement by someone from Korea on the subject of a Korean name... I cannot understand why you say it is 'Yim'. I can read Korean and speak it conversationally and I have seen Boxer's name written down on hundreds of occasions. I cannot see any reason to believe there should be anything resembling an English 'y' sound at the start. I have also spoken with countless Koreans about Boxer and never heard any of them pronounce it with a 'y' sound. Same goes for 'Lee' and 'Yi'.

If I have missed something here I would be grateful to know more about it.
We are vigilant.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 20 2004 15:42 GMT
#50
Requiem-> Rek-Wee-Em

Arbiter[frolix]-> ARBITERFROLIX
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 20 2004 15:43 GMT
#51
and the 'a' in 'Nost ->a<- lgia is pronounced like in "pal" not like in "tall"
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
September 20 2004 15:44 GMT
#52
On September 21 2004 00:42 Rt-S.FakeSteve wrote:
Requiem-> Rek-Wee-Em

Arbiter[frolix]-> ARBITERFROLIX


Yes, it must be pronounced in a suitably menacing tone, conveyed by those written capitals.
We are vigilant.
ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
September 20 2004 16:11 GMT
#53
On September 20 2004 18:54 Casper... wrote:
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG


British people would pronounce it correctly
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33608 Posts
September 20 2004 16:15 GMT
#54
Yi still sounds closer the Lee -.-

Ee looks weird -.-
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ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
September 20 2004 16:25 GMT
#55
oh, [BOyGiRl]ShaRp, then it means that bigface nal_rock is from your town, right? (An Ki Ho) -__-;

and about Lim, I just pronounce it as Im, but why you say Yim?

And another thing is about Suma Go, why koreans say Shuma Go? I know that 's' before 'i' is pronounced as 'sh', but before 'u'

And, btw, it would be nice to know what does progamer names mean
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
September 20 2004 16:30 GMT
#56
On September 21 2004 01:25 ram wrote:
And, btw, it would be nice to know what does progamer names mean


There was an entire thread on that somewhere around here... try using the search function, should be either the General or Brood War forum iirc.
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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
September 20 2004 16:32 GMT
#57
On September 21 2004 01:15 Waxangel wrote:
Yi still sounds closer the Lee -.-

Ee looks weird -.-


Well yeah, in that there is no 'l' sound in it at all. But then the romanisation as 'Lee' dates back to the original written and spoken form which was changed during the 20th century, doesn't it Wax?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33608 Posts
September 20 2004 16:46 GMT
#58
hoho, I dunno about the history of Korean in relation to its conversion to alphabet characters . I should ask one of my teachers.

NK Does prounounce Lee as Lee/Ree though.

I don't know exactly when the rule of dropping the R sound of some characters when they appear at the beginning of a word started though ;/

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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 17:02:59
September 20 2004 17:02 GMT
#59
I think it was some time in the late 40s or early 50s.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33608 Posts
September 20 2004 18:04 GMT
#60
I'm not so sure about that though, I think I've seen old literature that followed the modern rule
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 20 2004 18:07 GMT
#61
On September 20 2004 18:54 Casper... wrote:
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG
ALEX KANG LOST HIS WANG WHEN THE TELEPHONE RANG


lol
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chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
September 20 2004 18:08 GMT
#62
On September 20 2004 09:40 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Bak (often romanized Park) is a family name (one of the most common names in korea I think, like top 3).
Which means Jeong Seok (Bak Jeong Seok = Reach) is his name and I guess friends call him by that name (I dont know how it works exactly and I think it differs from person to person how personal they want to get).

Jeong Seok means normal or standard but I'm not sure if it still holds that meaning when you have it as a name. Oh and Yo Hwan means 'from the forest' right?


hihi, Lim from the forest

:D
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Fedaykin
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands2003 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-20 18:27:04
September 20 2004 18:26 GMT
#63
On September 21 2004 00:39 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2004 23:31 Minam_Lee wrote:
On September 20 2004 09:41 Fedaykin wrote:
nal ra is not his real name

Nal_ra's name is kang min, which is 'diffrent' since most korean names have a 2 syllable 'first name', and a 1 syllable family name, I think there's been a threat about this.

but, in names we all know:

Hong Jin-ho
Lim Yo-Hwan
Jang Jin-su

The first are family names the other are given names, if I remember correctly


actually boxer is Yim yo hwan
not Lim
and also Lee => Yi





Reluctant as I am to question a statement by someone from Korea on the subject of a Korean name... I cannot understand why you say it is 'Yim'. I can read Korean and speak it conversationally and I have seen Boxer's name written down on hundreds of occasions. I cannot see any reason to believe there should be anything resembling an English 'y' sound at the start. I have also spoken with countless Koreans about Boxer and never heard any of them pronounce it with a 'y' sound. Same goes for 'Lee' and 'Yi'.

If I have missed something here I would be grateful to know more about it.

I so agree, it was weird hearing that from a korean.
I know I don't know a lot about korean, but if his name was 'Yim', shouldn't it also be written with a Y-vowel. The name Lim has 3 'letters', the silent one, the I and the M. Nothing that even looks like a Y in there

The only thing I do which to know why names like Lee and Lim are pronounced with (according to me) an unwritten L
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2730 Posts
September 20 2004 19:34 GMT
#64
So Nal_Ra was on orphan and doesnt have a family name? Or he has a family name and one 'real name' like Mr.T?
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likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
September 20 2004 19:46 GMT
#65
On September 21 2004 04:34 8882 wrote:
So Nal_Ra was on orphan and doesnt have a family name? Or he has a family name and one 'real name' like Mr.T?


'kang' is family name and 'min' is first name.

ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
September 20 2004 20:36 GMT
#66
On September 21 2004 03:08 chicken` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2004 09:40 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Bak (often romanized Park) is a family name (one of the most common names in korea I think, like top 3).
Which means Jeong Seok (Bak Jeong Seok = Reach) is his name and I guess friends call him by that name (I dont know how it works exactly and I think it differs from person to person how personal they want to get).

Jeong Seok means normal or standard but I'm not sure if it still holds that meaning when you have it as a name. Oh and Yo Hwan means 'from the forest' right?


hihi, Lim from the forest

:D


That perfectly explains his nick WoodJohn -__-;
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