North Korea Fires Artillery Rounds at South Korean Island…
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oRacLeGosu
Norway151 Posts
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Impervious
Canada4173 Posts
On November 24 2010 00:42 Kezzer wrote: wow this is scary... makes me think of all those times playing an assassin in a video game to kill some important figure that is committing genocide/starting a war. Where are those assassins now? :/ Wouldn't help the cause..... They'd be turned into martyrs for the cause..... | ||
mmdmmd
722 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On November 24 2010 00:50 Impervious wrote: Wouldn't help the cause..... They'd be turned into martyrs for the cause..... Then there's the whole 'stepping down to their level' thing going on. If we're running around assassinating (assuming that's even possible) leaders here and there, who the fuck are we to condemn them? An assassination would just give NK a million reason to escalate the conflict. | ||
Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
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DoubleZee
Canada556 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On November 24 2010 00:52 mmdmmd wrote: The main reason why China "appears" to support NK is because it's their backyard. And any war there means a flood of refuges plus if the "invading" forces wins, China will have to border another superpower. Do you think US wants share border with Russia or UK ? They wouldn't mind the UK but you make a valid point, China does not want foreign troops in its backyard and thus will support NK if SK gets support from the west. | ||
DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On November 24 2010 00:53 Khol wrote: I'd pull a fast one on NK. I would tell them that everythings cool and give them w/e they wanted. In the meantime I would do a sneak attack from underground. Bloody genius. wow, how could no one ever think about that?!? seriously, who wants to deal with an army that gives nothing on the Geneva Conventions, millions of (possibly starving) fugitives and a destabilisation of a whole region? | ||
sNes.
United States377 Posts
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Ajunta
Germany522 Posts
On November 24 2010 00:54 Kipsate wrote: They wouldn't mind the UK but you make a valid point, China does not want foreign troops in its backyard and thus will support NK if SK gets support from the west. In case things get worse I feel that China's best course of action is to personally "take care" of NK. This way they would avoid having US and EU troops in their backyard and also settle things between SK and NK, thus saving millions of lives. | ||
Cedwyn
Canada58 Posts
However other countries may lend a hand - probably not on the level of say the problems in the middle east, but more of a defensive aid to SKR (including the US in this case). I am sure SKR can handle their own given their radical growth over NKR. But we all know this will blow over like the marine boat crap that happened a few years ago. | ||
GrazerRinge
999 Posts
When SK becomes so poor as fuck like NK is now? Srly, the politic of SK is just shitty as kespa...and i say it as legit Korean citizen...what makes me really sad...all these shits all the time and no solution although this issue is more then 3 6 decades old... I mean about 9 years ago SK "bought" NK to sit on the table and have some "peace" talk what came out as the biggest bullshit what could ever happen. SK has developed quite well in economical way. but since there were no master plan at all and all these happened in so short time, there is no clear structure there especially politics. + Show Spoiler + If you mods are gonna warn or ban me, go ahead, but i doubt there is no other way to describe the current situation then this way...really, when you research the recent history between SK and NK, you wont believe what kinda retarded shit has been going on. Just unbelievable | ||
Consolidate
United States829 Posts
On November 24 2010 00:45 Mo0Rauder wrote: The reason why N.K is allowed to exist is China. China gets a massive amount of its Coal and Silicon from North Korea, and when North Korea has this regime in power it is very easy for China to get those resources for its growing economy. Think of Civilization, if you have played it. When a city-state has a resources you need say, aluminum(in this case silicon) you just toss them a bunch of shitty low tech units (in this case artillery) and some gold and they hand that silicon, I mean aluminum, right over on a silver platter. Then comes the city-state alerts: "North Korea has a dispute with South Korea and seeks immediate Military action!"-"North Korea has a dispute with South Korea and seeks immediate Military action!"-"North Korea has a dispute with South Korea and seeks immediate Military action!" China can ignore the messages for a long time, but after awhile China's will have to do something either giving N.Korea more gold and military units, or they will have to give in to the demand, or else they can't get that precious ALUMINUM mmm... Unfortunately this is the real-world and not Civ(in Civ city-states don't attack one-another. In the real world fucked up regimes do what they want until the rest of the world stops them). This factor along with the free-world governments having terrible economic macro and not being able stabilize the financial issues quickly enough could lead to a very horrible situation in the Korean peninsula. My heart definitely goes out to anyone in or with loved ones in this ongoing crisis. <3 Do you have a source for outline-ing China and NK's trade agreements? I've had difficulty finding reliable information. | ||
Offhand
United States1869 Posts
I guess we all know what that military parade was about. + Show Spoiler + Also, lol college kids. "Fuck you Dear Leader, I only had one page to go in my paper about relations between North and South Korea and now I have to rewrite the whole thing. " To be fair I felt the same way when this happened the week my US/Israel relations paper was due. | ||
Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On November 23 2010 23:36 kamikami wrote: At this rate NK will win in the long term, just like North VietNam in the past. Just defend and don't attack is not the way you win control over anything. South Vietnam fell because of that, and so will South Korea. What the hell are you talking about. NK and SK now are very difference from what N.VN and S.VN 40 years ago. Try to learn your facts first before posting something like this, since I will not derail this thread and argue with you on this matter. | ||
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:03 GrazerRinge wrote: How long is SK gonna let NK do that kinda shit?? When there is nothing left to blow??? When SK becomes so poor as fuck like NK is? Srly, the politic of SK is just shitty as kespa...and i say it as legit Korean citizen...what makes me really sad... I mean SK "bought" NK to sit on the table and have some "peace" talk what came out as the biggest bullshit could ever happend. SK has developed quite well in economical way. but since there were no master plan at all and all these happened in so short time, its now just bunch of bricks which begins to fall apart. If you mods are gonna warn or ban me, go ahead, but i doubt there is no other way to describe the current situation then this way. Martyrdom is a sad way to express your opinion. But I doubt there will be war to be honest. There will only be a war only if North Korea sends their army across the DMZ. | ||
Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:03 GrazerRinge wrote: How long is SK gonna let NK do that kinda shit?? When there is nothing left to blow??? When SK becomes so poor as fuck like NK is? Srly, the politic of SK is just shitty as kespa...and i say it as legit Korean citizen...what makes me really sad... I mean SK "bought" NK to sit on the table and have some "peace" talk what came out as the biggest bullshit could ever happend. SK has developed quite well in economical way. but since there were no master plan at all and all these happened in so short time, its now just bunch of bricks which begins to fall apart. If you mods are gonna warn or ban me, go ahead, but i doubt there is no other way to describe the current situation then this way. Do you believe in the possibility of Koreas' unification? | ||
mmdmmd
722 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:04 Consolidate wrote: Do you have a source for outline-ing China and NK's trade agreements? I've had difficulty finding reliable information. I hope he didn't get that from Civilization, cause that's the only thing he mentioned in there. | ||
Consolidate
United States829 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:00 Cedwyn wrote: It seems illogical for the US to support SKR offensively in this conflict because they have nothing to gain. Plus I am sure most of the US civilians would concur that sending troops to an ally when they just got them from the East would be a strain on their country. However other countries may lend a hand - probably not on the level of say the problems in the middle east, but more of a defensive aid to SKR (including the US in this case). I am sure SKR can handle their own given their radical growth over NKR. But we all know this will blow over like the marine boat crap that happened a few years ago. Hard to say how well South Korea would fair in a war against North Korea. While SK's military has a significant technological edge, manpower-wise, NK's military outnumbers them roughly 4 to 1. Given the obvious proximity between the two nations, a DPRK invasion would be a significant cause for concern. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:11 Consolidate wrote: Hard to say how well South Korea would fair in a war against North Korea. While SK's military has a significant technological edge, manpower-wise, NK's military outnumbers them roughly 4 to 1. Given the obvious proximity between the two nations, a DPRK invasion would be a significant cause for concern. South Korea would butcher North Korea's military if North Korea attacked. The terrain heavily favors defense. Just look at how many North Koreans/Chinese that the US killed during the Korean War. The real concern would be North Korea bombarding Seoul out of spite. | ||
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