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On November 23 2010 19:29 DavidMcF wrote:
IIRC, NK and SK are only on a cease fire, so war could break out again at anytime.
China supporting NK is what is letting them be so aggressive
>:[ china!
China doesn't support this. They've been patient with NK, but I imagine their patience is starting to wear thin. China just wants the status quo where both sides are separated but peaceful towards each other.
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On November 23 2010 19:27 Benshin88 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 19:24 dasanivan wrote:On November 23 2010 19:18 Benshin88 wrote:
To be honest... the international community probably cares more about korean relations then the SK people it self. This is probably the first time SK citizens will actually start caring about the situation with NK.
not sure what you're basing this on. the "international community"? who are you referring to? Refering to the leaders of the international community.
so you're comparing the leaders of the international community to SK citizens in terms of how much they care?
that aside, nobody cares more about south korea's relations more than... south korea (who woulda thought)
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fck I'm really in shock...
Im really scared...Ii dont want war, because u wont know what is happening, if other countries get involved...
damn.
And btw. how can u make fun of sth like this this is serious shit
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This is all very interesting, in a bad way, i am hoping that this doesn't all go down a bad path and end in all out war.
If it does i cant help but feel the world really is going to end in 2012.
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On November 23 2010 19:31 dinki0825 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 19:26 MrHoon wrote:
Also it wasnt 2 privates who died
it was 1 Sergeant and 1 Private who died I thoughts it was 1 sk marine killed and 13 injured?
another died
total 15 injured afaik
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north says south started it first by shooting at them
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Wheres the U.S. warships and carriers currently at?
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are there any important update?, BBC isn't really informative atm
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nothing really happened recently.
The incident happened, some statemens were made by the us/russia/china/sk/nk.
But aside from that nothing else has happened (just some more detailed info about the actual attack, casualty's/injured/etc)
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ALERT: Russia says both Koreas face "colossal danger," calls for immediate end to all strikes.
What the.
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I'm having a hard time determining what is actually occurring at this point. As I understand it, there was the initial shelling, some return fire from SK, and since then, the situation has stabilized and it's been a battle of words?
It honestly doesn't sound much more significant than the sinking of the South Korea ship a few months back.
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On November 23 2010 19:35 Siqk wrote:
Wheres the U.S. warships and carriers currently at?
I am sure they are primarily split between the Pacific and Atlantic ocean as usual (lesson learned thanks to the Japanese). I have friends in the Navy and they can't ever disclose their locations due to "national security." I am sure there is nothing out of the ordinary with U.S. warships at the moment.
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"The BBC's John Sudworth in Seoul says there has been no sense of panic in the capital, although there are some signs of concern on financial markets. "
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On November 23 2010 19:38 TheNihilist wrote:
I'm having a hard time determining what is actually occurring at this point. As I understand it, there was the initial shelling, some return fire from SK, and since then, the situation has stabilized and it's been a battle of words?
It honestly doesn't sound much more significant than the sinking of the South Korea ship a few months back.
it is only more significant because of the involvement of civilians but your synopsis is pretty much correct.
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On November 23 2010 19:38 Shikyo wrote:
ALERT: Russia says both Koreas face "colossal danger," calls for immediate end to all strikes.
What the.
That twitter is making things up to get views.
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On November 23 2010 19:38 TheNihilist wrote:
I'm having a hard time determining what is actually occurring at this point. As I understand it, there was the initial shelling, some return fire from SK, and since then, the situation has stabilized and it's been a battle of words?
It honestly doesn't sound much more significant than the sinking of the South Korea ship a few months back.
as far as i can tell. one huge factor is that it's a blatant attack in open air, rather than a stealthy submarine torpedo strike that the dprk continues to deny being responsible for
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I've been following the development pretty consistently for about a year and - although obviously I have little insight being from Austria - I can NOT believe that China would support NK if it continued their provocation.
China isn't the same country as it was not long ago, I'm deeply convinced China won't risk economic conflict with the western world just to support an ally that has caused them nothing but troubles. Times of decisionmaking based on pure ideology are over in China, and without support from China NK can't do anything.
Let's hope I'm not wrong, otherwise things could turn out pretty badly, considering the shape China is right now - I can't even think about the tragic results if NK and SK went to war and US supported SK while China supported NK. Horrible.
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On November 23 2010 19:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 19:38 Shikyo wrote:
ALERT: Russia says both Koreas face "colossal danger," calls for immediate end to all strikes.
What the. That twitter is making things up to get views.
It really feels like half the stuff is completely made up, yeah. There's some really nice pictures, though.
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On November 23 2010 19:25 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 19:18 Benshin88 wrote:On November 23 2010 19:09 zatic wrote:On November 23 2010 19:02 Benshin88 wrote:On November 23 2010 18:57 zatic wrote:On November 23 2010 18:55 Benshin88 wrote:On November 23 2010 18:52 kwkwookw wrote:On November 23 2010 18:50 Hinanawi wrote:
Would you stop blabbering about how invincible and movie-star Ramboish U.S. soldiers apparently are? There's a serious news story here and I'm facepalming pretty hard at this whole debate over "hurrr which country's soldiers are the most badass?" Yes seriously....sheesh you'd think this thread was run by immature children This pretty big event in the S. Korea. The people are probably emotional like something along time lines of 9/11. NK has NEVER NEVER attacked on SK soil. this is the first time in ~60years. Take a trip to Wikipedia please. This shit happens all the time. Not so much recently, true, but you certainly don't have to go back to the Korean war. Your Average SK will not care what happens around the border. Let alone all the events that occured in the borders. 1980s were probably the most tense years but those events were provoked. The recent boat incidents were provoked as well. This was unprovoked AND was on Korean SOIL!! This is the worst thing they've done since the korean war. You were wrong and you continue to be wrong. There is no shame in admitting it, even on the internet. Dude I'm south Korean American. All you are doing is speculating that those had a large impact. I'm discussing on a korean forum as well. The impact of those events are ZIP nothing. People stopped caring within a month or so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_KoreaWhen bombs start coming down and citizens actually get injured. Things just got real. People start realizing the current situation in S. Korea and realize sensitive it really is. South Koreans do not think about there neighbor at all. To be honest... the international community probably cares more about korean relations then the SK people it self. This is probably the first time SK citizens will actually start caring about the situation with NK. SK will probably care about this situation for at least a year or so. Majority of things become history IE that boat incident. It was only on the Korean news for like 2 months and that event has never been mentioned up until now. Ugh. How about we just draw the line at saying that ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS, BOTH OF YOU, ARE GENERALIZED, thus there is no right or wrong. There are people who care a WHOLE lot and there are those who couldn't give a rat's ass. I know Koreans here who worry a lot about what's gonna happen. Then I know those who don't care. So both of you, this is not a place to argue over some stupid generalization that you've come to via wikipedia or a korean forum. Just in case Benshin88 doesn't know, I'm a Korean-American living in Seoul currently.
What i've been trying to say is this "There are people who care a WHOLE lot and there are those who couldn't give a rat's ass. " I'm just trying to clarify the bigger picture. IMO more people don't give a rat's ass. Your doing some generalization there too... "WHOLE lot"...
The korean netizens have never said much until the recent ship incident. Korean netizens started to care. The funeral for the dead south korean soldiers was a pretty big national event. I was really suprised by its size. I'm just saying that this will amplify the reaction of the Korean netizens. I'm just discussing political science while the German dudes trying to teach me history with wiki links.
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