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incredible documentary. thank you for sharing.
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On November 29 2010 22:58 hideo wrote: Are all you Canadians posting indignantly here going to enlist if WW3 breaks out? Are you going to vote for increased military spending? Those are the only ways we're going to see Canada return to its WW2-era war-like posture, and I don't think many of us want that anyways.
Yes. I would instantly enlist, are you saying you wouldn't? Yes, I do vote for increased military spending. And No, We will never return to our post WW2 Era ever IMO. The times are different. Our army will never be large enough to fight as it did in WW2, as other countries have much larger populations and therefor larger gross numbers in their armies. However that doesn't mean that as Canadians we can't flex our nuts in confrontations on a global scale with high tech fighter jets, a small naval force, and a few platoons of highly trained soldiers. Along with our billions upon billions of dollars we spend rebuilding countries our allies destroy.
We do what we can.
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On November 29 2010 23:42 iG.ClouD wrote: I am very scared of this. Everything is leaning towards a large scale war.
why would u be scared?, u always end up winning anyway...
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South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft." link
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On November 30 2010 01:20 Hemling wrote:South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft."link quite old but still
the retaliation delay was only 13 minutes, not to mention it was a total surprise attack I don't understand why the defense minister 'retired' The South Korean navy assembled around 8-10 K9 thunders, loaded them with weapons, went up a relatively large hill and returned fire within 13 minutes.
Can any of you tech/war/army buffs explain to me why this response is criticized for being incredibly 'slow'? (serious question no sarcasm intended)
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the retaliation delay was only 13 minutes, not to mention it was a total surprise attack I don't understand why the defense minister 'retired' The South Korean navy assembled around 8-10 K9 thunders, loaded them with weapons, went up a relatively large hill and returned fire within 13 minutes.
Can any of you tech/war/army buffs explain to me why this response is criticized for being incredibly 'slow'? (serious question no sarcasm intended) Nope. Honestly I'm willing to bet more was going on behind the scenes that we don't know about even though that was the "official" reason.
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On November 30 2010 01:24 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 01:20 Hemling wrote:South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft."link quite old but still the retaliation delay was only 13 minutes, not to mention it was a total surprise attack I don't understand why the defense minister 'retired' The South Korean navy assembled around 8-10 K9 thunders, loaded them with weapons, went up a relatively large hill and returned fire within 13 minutes. Can any of you tech/war/army buffs explain to me why this response is criticized for being incredibly 'slow'? (serious question no sarcasm intended)
Well if you want a description of what they could've done...
Instead of some brief return fire that was promptly ordered to stop, they could have ordered air strikes until the firing NK emplacements were confirmed destroyed, and went to full alert all along the DMZ mobilizing everything and waiting on NK's next move at full readiness.
of course, the economic consquences would not have been very nice.
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Well a country won't have their anti battery guns just lying around. They need to be moved, deployed, fire needs to be tracked, then they actually have to fire. 13 minutes sounds pretty good for this
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So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?
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[B] Are all you Canadians posting indignantly here going to enlist if WW3 breaks out? Are you going to vote for increased military spending? Those are the only ways we're going to see Canada return to its WW2-era war-like posture, and I don't think many of us want that anyways.
If world war 3 broke out I believe under the current government we would see concsription and Canada would have a pretty good army for its population. Not to mention we would be supplying the US with alot of its oil and fresh water needs. Also the US would collaborate(give us their war tech) with us and get us up to speed.
Would not vote for increased military spending to defend us against an invisible enemy. However if we were to go to war and I mean fullscale world war were are country and way of life is at risk then you would see a lot of canadians change their attitude.
We will go to Korea if war happens and the UN sanctions it. We wont see a huge canadian force there relatively speaking unless China gets involved but it doesn't look like that will be the case. However Canadians will put there lives at risk.
Anyways I am not ignorant in thinking that canada is badass when it comes to military. I also dont take for granted the fact that we have the US as and ally and directly to our south. Actually I guess I do because I dont want to increase military spending.
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On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?
How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.
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On November 30 2010 07:16 lvatural wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh? How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.
Yea I agree, I think the only nice thing about hearing this is that a lot of people that were stressing China getting involved and WW3 happening are going to relax a bit.
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On November 30 2010 07:16 lvatural wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh? How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.
All this bullshit is probably just some propaganda
Anyone ever read 1984, Well we are living it, or soon to be.
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On November 30 2010 07:28 DisBabylonSystem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 07:16 lvatural wrote:On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh? How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion. All this bullshit is probably just some propaganda Anyone ever read 1984, Well we are living it, or soon to be.
tbh the world we're living is more Kafka's Trial then 1984 :/.
I mean have you had rats strapped to your face lately ?
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I haven't read Kafka's Trial but ill check it out if its decent.
LOL no I havent, xD
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Wow that video of the malnourished woman is really sad. My country needs to go and liberate North Korea.
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On November 30 2010 07:49 vnlegend wrote: Wow that video of the malnourished woman is really sad. My country needs to go and liberate North Korea. I dont want to fight in any wars period.
You could do it by yourself, if thats what really you believe is right. Ill call u Rambo once your done
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There isn't going to be a war over this. South Korea has no balls, and the US doesn't have the stomach for getting involved in another war right now. Back to South Korea though: how many times must an opposing country make acts of war against you (such as shelling your territory or sinking one of your ships) before you retaliate? South Korea has no credibility right now, and its failure to respond will simply embolden North Korea to keep doing what it's doing. War sucks and should always be avoid when possible. However, sometimes it simply isn't possible.
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