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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
November 29 2010 14:43 GMT
#2701
On November 29 2010 18:50 ReaverDrop! wrote:

Damnit I forgot to post this awesome North Korean documentary,

http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3

Take a good look.

incredible documentary. thank you for sharing.
Hark!
Mo0Rauder
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada182 Posts
November 29 2010 15:04 GMT
#2702
On November 29 2010 22:58 hideo wrote:
Are all you Canadians posting indignantly here going to enlist if WW3 breaks out? Are you going to vote for increased military spending? Those are the only ways we're going to see Canada return to its WW2-era war-like posture, and I don't think many of us want that anyways.


Yes. I would instantly enlist, are you saying you wouldn't?
Yes, I do vote for increased military spending.
And No, We will never return to our post WW2 Era ever IMO. The times are different. Our army will never be large enough to fight as it did in WW2, as other countries have much larger populations and therefor larger gross numbers in their armies. However that doesn't mean that as Canadians we can't flex our nuts in confrontations on a global scale with high tech fighter jets, a small naval force, and a few platoons of highly trained soldiers. Along with our billions upon billions of dollars we spend rebuilding countries our allies destroy.

We do what we can.
All work or all play? Nive to five? Or, five to nine?
Hyukiliation
Profile Joined November 2010
14 Posts
November 29 2010 15:27 GMT
#2703
Anyone can refer to BBCnews then ?:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11859913

"separate live-fire drill on Yeonpyeong on Tuesday was announced by local military officials but later cancelled. "
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
November 29 2010 15:38 GMT
#2704
On November 29 2010 23:42 iG.ClouD wrote:
I am very scared of this. Everything is leaning towards a large scale war.


why would u be scared?, u always end up winning anyway...
Hemling
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden93 Posts
November 29 2010 16:20 GMT
#2705
South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft."
link
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/246845/1/Hemligt/
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 29 2010 16:24 GMT
#2706
On November 30 2010 01:20 Hemling wrote:
South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft."
link

quite old but still

the retaliation delay was only 13 minutes, not to mention it was a total surprise attack
I don't understand why the defense minister 'retired'
The South Korean navy assembled around 8-10 K9 thunders, loaded them with weapons, went up a relatively large hill and returned fire within 13 minutes.

Can any of you tech/war/army buffs explain to me why this response is criticized for being incredibly 'slow'? (serious question no sarcasm intended)
dats racist
Duban
Profile Joined July 2009
United States548 Posts
November 29 2010 16:48 GMT
#2707
the retaliation delay was only 13 minutes, not to mention it was a total surprise attack
I don't understand why the defense minister 'retired'
The South Korean navy assembled around 8-10 K9 thunders, loaded them with weapons, went up a relatively large hill and returned fire within 13 minutes.

Can any of you tech/war/army buffs explain to me why this response is criticized for being incredibly 'slow'? (serious question no sarcasm intended)

Nope. Honestly I'm willing to bet more was going on behind the scenes that we don't know about even though that was the "official" reason.
An ignorant person makes a mistake. A stupid person makes it again.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 17:51:25
November 29 2010 17:48 GMT
#2708
On November 30 2010 01:24 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 01:20 Hemling wrote:
South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft."
link

quite old but still

the retaliation delay was only 13 minutes, not to mention it was a total surprise attack
I don't understand why the defense minister 'retired'
The South Korean navy assembled around 8-10 K9 thunders, loaded them with weapons, went up a relatively large hill and returned fire within 13 minutes.

Can any of you tech/war/army buffs explain to me why this response is criticized for being incredibly 'slow'? (serious question no sarcasm intended)


Well if you want a description of what they could've done...

Instead of some brief return fire that was promptly ordered to stop, they could have ordered air strikes until the firing NK emplacements were confirmed destroyed, and went to full alert all along the DMZ mobilizing everything and waiting on NK's next move at full readiness.


of course, the economic consquences would not have been very nice.
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
November 29 2010 21:09 GMT
#2709
Well a country won't have their anti battery guns just lying around. They need to be moved, deployed, fire needs to be tracked, then they actually have to fire.
13 minutes sounds pretty good for this
DaVinci
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands27 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 21:48:06
November 29 2010 21:42 GMT
#2710
Interesting new development, latest wikileaks story:

China ready to abandon North Korea

And the NY Times article:
Leaked Cables Depict a World Guessing About North Korea
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 29 2010 21:48 GMT
#2711
On November 30 2010 06:42 DaVinci wrote:
Interesting new development, latest wikileaks story:

China ready to abandon North Korea


So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?
Life?
Lowkin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 22:13:10
November 29 2010 22:01 GMT
#2712
[B]
Are all you Canadians posting indignantly here going to enlist if WW3 breaks out? Are you going to vote for increased military spending? Those are the only ways we're going to see Canada return to its WW2-era war-like posture, and I don't think many of us want that anyways.


If world war 3 broke out I believe under the current government we would see concsription and Canada would have a pretty good army for its population. Not to mention we would be supplying the US with alot of its oil and fresh water needs. Also the US would collaborate(give us their war tech) with us and get us up to speed.

Would not vote for increased military spending to defend us against an invisible enemy. However if we were to go to war and I mean fullscale world war were are country and way of life is at risk then you would see a lot of canadians change their attitude.

We will go to Korea if war happens and the UN sanctions it. We wont see a huge canadian force there relatively speaking unless China gets involved but it doesn't look like that will be the case. However Canadians will put there lives at risk.

Anyways I am not ignorant in thinking that canada is badass when it comes to military. I also dont take for granted the fact that we have the US as and ally and directly to our south. Actually I guess I do because I dont want to increase military spending.
lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 22:17:30
November 29 2010 22:16 GMT
#2713
On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 06:42 DaVinci wrote:
Interesting new development, latest wikileaks story:

China ready to abandon North Korea


So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?


How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.
--
Lowkin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada232 Posts
November 29 2010 22:24 GMT
#2714
On November 30 2010 07:16 lvatural wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 30 2010 06:42 DaVinci wrote:
Interesting new development, latest wikileaks story:

China ready to abandon North Korea


So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?


How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.


Yea I agree, I think the only nice thing about hearing this is that a lot of people that were stressing China getting involved and WW3 happening are going to relax a bit.
DisBabylonSystem
Profile Joined October 2010
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 22:38:36
November 29 2010 22:28 GMT
#2715
On November 30 2010 07:16 lvatural wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 30 2010 06:42 DaVinci wrote:
Interesting new development, latest wikileaks story:

China ready to abandon North Korea


So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?


How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.


All this bullshit is probably just some propaganda

Anyone ever read 1984, Well we are living it, or soon to be.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 22:44:39
November 29 2010 22:44 GMT
#2716
On November 30 2010 07:28 DisBabylonSystem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 07:16 lvatural wrote:
On November 30 2010 06:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 30 2010 06:42 DaVinci wrote:
Interesting new development, latest wikileaks story:

China ready to abandon North Korea


So some good did actually come out of those leaks eh?


How is this good? This will only bring more tension to the current relationship between China and NK; it's better to keep this stuff secret. This is generally why I don't like the idea of just shooting all this info into the internet stream. It's great for the general public since we get to see the behind the scenes stuff, but that hardly compensates for the detrimental effect it may have on some rather tenuous/flimsy/sensitive international relations that are just getting off the ground or are in a state of repair. Pretty irresponsible and stupid if you ask me, but that's just my opinion.


All this bullshit is probably just some propaganda

Anyone ever read 1984, Well we are living it, or soon to be.


tbh the world we're living is more Kafka's Trial then 1984 :/.

I mean have you had rats strapped to your face lately ?
Too Busy to Troll!
DisBabylonSystem
Profile Joined October 2010
56 Posts
November 29 2010 22:46 GMT
#2717
I haven't read Kafka's Trial but ill check it out if its decent.

LOL no I havent, xD
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
November 29 2010 22:49 GMT
#2718
Wow that video of the malnourished woman is really sad. My country needs to go and liberate North Korea.
Marines > everything
DisBabylonSystem
Profile Joined October 2010
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 22:53:56
November 29 2010 22:53 GMT
#2719
On November 30 2010 07:49 vnlegend wrote:
Wow that video of the malnourished woman is really sad. My country needs to go and liberate North Korea.

I dont want to fight in any wars period.

You could do it by yourself, if thats what really you believe is right. Ill call u Rambo once your done
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 22:56:03
November 29 2010 22:55 GMT
#2720
There isn't going to be a war over this. South Korea has no balls, and the US doesn't have the stomach for getting involved in another war right now. Back to South Korea though: how many times must an opposing country make acts of war against you (such as shelling your territory or sinking one of your ships) before you retaliate? South Korea has no credibility right now, and its failure to respond will simply embolden North Korea to keep doing what it's doing. War sucks and should always be avoid when possible. However, sometimes it simply isn't possible.
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