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On April 27 2012 23:15 BlazingSonic wrote: could someone describe the sound/ characteristics of the Denon 2000 and the Audiotechnika ATH A(D)700? As these are the only ones I couldn´t test I would like to know how they sound like? To what other headphones could they compare? How´s the bass tone?
Completely different headphones. The ATH AD-700 is open hence the overall sound signature will sound thin and definitely leak. The Denon D2000 is closed so the low end will have much more of a presence. I've had both headphones in the past, got rid of the ATH AD-700 almost immediately, it just felt lacking in everything apart from the comfort. Although it was a clear downgrade from the other headphones I've used.
The Denon D2000 on the other hand is surprisingly for its size a very good portable headphones, again only if you can stand its size. It sounds like a DT770 except much more efficient. The mid range on the D2000 can be somewhat slightly lacking and/or veiled. Treble can be edgy at best. But the low end is where the D2000 shines! It makes the music very engaging and enticing to listen too reminds me of the clarity, punch of the bass in JH16s custom IEMs.
Both headphones will not greatly benefit from amping so I'd you're thinking of amping these headphones I'd recommend you spend that extra cash into a better headphone instead.
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On April 27 2012 23:51 essencez wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:15 BlazingSonic wrote: could someone describe the sound/ characteristics of the Denon 2000 and the Audiotechnika ATH A(D)700? As these are the only ones I couldn´t test I would like to know how they sound like? To what other headphones could they compare? How´s the bass tone?
Completely different headphones. The ATH AD-700 is open hence the overall sound signature will sound thin and definitely leak. The Denon D2000 is closed so the low end will have much more of a presence. I've had both headphones in the past, got rid of the ATH AD-700 almost immediately, it just felt lacking in everything apart from the comfort. Although it was a clear downgrade from the other headphones I've used. The Denon D2000 on the other hand is surprisingly for its size a very good portable headphones, again only if you can stand its size. It sounds like a DT770 except much more efficient. The mid range on the D2000 can be somewhat slightly lacking and/or veiled. Treble can be edgy at best. But the low end is where the D2000 shines! It makes the music very engaging and enticing to listen too reminds me of the clarity, punch of the bass in JH16s custom IEMs. Both headphones will not greatly benefit from amping so I'd you're thinking of amping these headphones I'd recommend you spend that extra cash into a better headphone instead.
The D2000 does well, and yes, its mid range is not necessarily veiled but rather than the presence of the treble (which is ever so sibilant and the sub-bass combined with the mid-bass leads to a slightly v-shaped sound signature.
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On April 27 2012 13:46 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 09:46 kineSiS- wrote: sound quality in almost every true closed headphone is lacking (except certain top tier ones like the excessively overpriced Edition 8 Ultrasones).
Haha, good one. Almost thought you praised Ultrasone seriously for a second there!
Me, praising Ultrasone? You kidding me? They legit just slap random numbers after "Edition" and if it's a "Limited Edition" they arbitrarily add like 1000 USD. But you have to admit that the Edition 8 is a good headphone and quite stylish with the thin veneer of precious metals and the Ethiopian leather ear pads. I personally would never buy one of them as I'm quite an IEM fanboy as opposed to over-ears. I don't know why... they're just supremely more comfortable, natural and portable.
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I'm in the market for some new studio headphones for music production. Price range around $300-400. Pretty clueless at this price range. I'm looking for a pair with really high quality bass and great attention to detail for mastering. suggestions much appreciated!
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I have Sennheiser HD280's and I can't wear them for more than 10 minutes without vomiting. They literally clamp my head so hard I feel my temples throbbing and I worry my skull might change shape over time. I have a pretty big head, but I don't see how this design is reasonable at all! Is there any solution to this, or should I just give them to a friend and buy different headphones?
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On April 28 2012 13:11 LambtrOn wrote: I'm in the market for some new studio headphones for music production. Price range around $300-400. Pretty clueless at this price range. I'm looking for a pair with really high quality bass and great attention to detail for mastering. suggestions much appreciated! Sennheiser HD 600? Prices on 600 and 650 are higher than they used to be though. If you need a mild amount of isolation, maybe Denon AH-D2000. They're getting discontinued soon though.
On April 28 2012 13:48 fatfail wrote: I have Sennheiser HD280's and I can't wear them for more than 10 minutes without vomiting. They literally clamp my head so hard I feel my temples throbbing and I worry my skull might change shape over time. I have a pretty big head, but I don't see how this design is reasonable at all! Is there any solution to this, or should I just give them to a friend and buy different headphones? They're HD 280s. There's only a certain amount you can do, which mostly involves trying to stretch them out by placing them around books or something else to try to loosen the clamp whenever you're not wearing them.
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On April 28 2012 13:48 fatfail wrote: I have Sennheiser HD280's and I can't wear them for more than 10 minutes without vomiting. They literally clamp my head so hard I feel my temples throbbing and I worry my skull might change shape over time. I have a pretty big head, but I don't see how this design is reasonable at all! Is there any solution to this, or should I just give them to a friend and buy different headphones?
I am sorry but this post in combination with your ID made me laugh pretty hard.
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Straight to the point, what do you think about AKG K450 and Razer Orca guys? I've set my eyes on one of these. I'm looking for something affordable, so if any alternatives I would be very thankful.
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I'm probably gonna build my own set of in-ear monitors soon. Any other DIYers out there? :D
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my friend recently got some marshall majors...whats the verdict on that? im thinking of spending ~100 USD on a new set of headphones just for everything.. ie. gaming, music. ive tried the majors out and i would like to use them as sort of a benchmark...what are some other good headphones out tehre for general use?
Thanks
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Absolutely terrific cans, though it's past the point where diminishing returns hit hardest. But if you have the money you won't be regretting the purchase. Great all rounder that simply works for everything. Isolation is pretty much non-existant though, if that's an issue.
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On April 30 2012 19:36 spaZzNx-` wrote: my friend recently got some marshall majors...whats the verdict on that? im thinking of spending ~100 USD on a new set of headphones just for everything.. ie. gaming, music. ive tried the majors out and i would like to use them as sort of a benchmark...what are some other good headphones out tehre for general use?
Thanks
VSonic GR07 - Around 150 an amazing all arounder.
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If you really want a pair of nice looking heaphones though, invest 600 dollars (that is what they cost nowadays) into the Denon AH-D7000, which has the least mid-bass and an amazing sub-bass leaving for a more reference and appreciated sound. It's not as much reference, as that it is in all ways technically better and more "fun" and enjoyable.
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^ I so love the looks and possibly the sound of Denons but i will forever refuse to pay the 600+ on Chinese assembled product.. specially when there are still cheaper alternatives built in their countries of origin.
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Posted this before, if anyone has more suggestions:
What are some good quality (that is, they last longer than a year; I tried several under $50 they usually wear and break within months) open air headphones that do "not" fully surround the ear? (Basically the earpad doesn't cover the entire ear.)
For example, a style of headset like this click.
Here's direct image: + Show Spoiler +
The reason why I want something that doesn't cover the entire ear is because:
1. Wearing long time during hot days may make my ears too warm.
2. I wear glasses, so that means the headphones usually cover the handle part of the glasses. It hurts after long usage.
Any suggestions? Sadly I can't seem to find ones where no one complains that it breaks after a few months. I'd like ones that last at least a year and are comfortable to wear + don't surround the entire ear.
Thanks in advance for any help .
Seems like all the high end headphones cover the entire ear .
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Sennheiser HD 238 might fit your bill. I used to use those and they are pretty comfy. Grado SR80 might also fit you.
Basically you're looking for supra-aural open-back headphones.
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On May 01 2012 12:10 QuackPocketDuck wrote: ^ I so love the looks and possibly the sound of Denons but i will forever refuse to pay the 600+ on Chinese assembled product.. specially when there are still cheaper alternatives built in their countries of origin.
You do realize that some of the best crafted custom in ear monitors are from China and they beat out Westone and JH Audio in terms of build quality. It's not where, it's how. Although, it does make sense to associate China to with outsourcing and low quality because that's how profit margins are maximized, if you purchase the AH-D7000's you'll realize it oozes of quality.
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Sennheiser HD 598s best for the 250$ price?
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