EPTOn May 01 2012 14:48 -HonestlyZerg wrote:
Sennheiser HD 598s best for the 250$ price?
Sennheiser HD 598s best for the 250$ price?
in terms of what.
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
I gather by reading this thread that Audio-Technica ATH-M50's are mid-level headphones (according to the audiophiles). I was just about to buy a pair based on two high recommendations from personal acquaintances who are audio professionals. My questions for the community are: 1) What defines these as midlevel? I've seen charts indicating that they stomp all over some of the much more expensive isolating, circumaural headphones, and they make the responses of the drivers in the most expensive Beats look like shit... what more is it that they would need to do in order to be considered high-level? Is it components, audio response, frequency range...? I assume an untrained ear like mine won't be able to tell the difference. 2) Are they as well-priced for the value as I hear? I'm told that performance per dollar they are a very good buy. Is there something else that beats them out in this area? Thanks for your opinions. -Crush | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:10 squattincassanova wrote: sups? Where'd you get that headphone stand? | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:09 Crushgroove wrote: I have a question for the knowledgable community: I gather by reading this thread that Audio-Technica ATH-M50's are mid-level headphones (according to the audiophiles). I was just about to buy a pair based on two high recommendations from personal acquaintances who are audio professionals. My questions for the community are: 1) What defines these as midlevel? I've seen charts indicating that they stomp all over some of the much more expensive isolating, circumaural headphones, and they make the responses of the drivers in the most expensive Beats look like shit... what more is it that they would need to do in order to be considered high-level? Is it components, audio response, frequency range...? I assume an untrained ear like mine won't be able to tell the difference. 2) Are they as well-priced for the value as I hear? I'm told that performance per dollar they are a very good buy. Is there something else that beats them out in this area? Thanks for your opinions. -Crush 1. What are these "charts" you speak of? If you mean "specs" such as impedance, sensitivity, frequency range etc, it is often not possible to determine whether a pair of headphones are better than another solely based on these "specs". They can tell you how loud the headphones will be driven out of a specific source, and that's about it. The same applies for frequency response graphs - they provide a reference but never a substitute for actual listening. Your other point of reference, the "most expensive" Beats, is also a poor one. Beats are well-known for being overpriced and mediocre-sounding, and are also certainly not even close to being "the most expensive". For what it's worth though, yes the M-50s should be superior to the Beats. What makes something "high-level"? It is everything you listed and more. It's hard to come up with a definition - the build quality and technical capability are certainly major factors. Assuredly, as long as your sources are up to par, any pair of functional ears will be able to tell the difference between mid-fi and hi-fi. Basically they sound better. 2. Yes, the M-50s are great value. Whether they are the absolute best for your buck depends on your tastes in music and sound signature - but with the M-50s you are very unlikely to go too far wrong. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
Does anyone have advice on a high-quality, preferably wireless headset that I could get for around 150-200$? | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KI7BOI/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00 | ||
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:20 uriel- wrote: 1. What are these "charts" you speak of? If you mean "specs" such as impedance, sensitivity, frequency range etc, it is often not possible to determine whether a pair of headphones are better than another solely based on these "specs". They can tell you how loud the headphones will be driven out of a specific source, and that's about it. The same applies for frequency response graphs - they provide a reference but never a substitute for actual listening. Your other point of reference, the "most expensive" Beats, is also a poor one. Beats are well-known for being overpriced and mediocre-sounding, and are also certainly not even close to being "the most expensive". For what it's worth though, yes the M-50s should be superior to the Beats. What makes something "high-level"? It is everything you listed and more. It's hard to come up with a definition - the build quality and technical capability are certainly major factors. Assuredly, as long as your sources are up to par, any pair of functional ears will be able to tell the difference between mid-fi and hi-fi. Basically they sound better. 2. Yes, the M-50s are great value. Whether they are the absolute best for your buck depends on your tastes in music and sound signature - but with the M-50s you are very unlikely to go too far wrong. When I said "most expensive beats"... I was referring to the highest price headphone in the Beats line.... not at all implying that beats are the most expensive par of cans. =/ Thanks for the help though... sounds like listening to them and comparing is something I should workout. Also: One such chart: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5fXn1.png) Edit: I guess by definition, this is a line graph, not a chart. But yes, it compares the specs of multiple headphones... Should have said graph. My bad. Edit #2: You mentioned type of music. I listen to a lot of house/dub. Bassy junk, but with complicated highs that need heard. | ||
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
Thank you for the response. Picking that bad boy up, really like it, not even sure why. I'm jealous of the headphones too... way outta my price-range. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
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spaZzNx-`
Hong Kong1221 Posts
On May 01 2012 11:54 kineSiS- wrote: VSonic GR07 - Around 150 an amazing all arounder. outside of my budget TT something similar to that but at a lower price..? | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:09 Crushgroove wrote: I have a question for the knowledgable community: I gather by reading this thread that Audio-Technica ATH-M50's are mid-level headphones (according to the audiophiles). I was just about to buy a pair based on two high recommendations from personal acquaintances who are audio professionals. My questions for the community are: 1) What defines these as midlevel? I've seen charts indicating that they stomp all over some of the much more expensive isolating, circumaural headphones, and they make the responses of the drivers in the most expensive Beats look like shit... what more is it that they would need to do in order to be considered high-level? Is it components, audio response, frequency range...? I assume an untrained ear like mine won't be able to tell the difference. 2) Are they as well-priced for the value as I hear? I'm told that performance per dollar they are a very good buy. Is there something else that beats them out in this area? Thanks for your opinions. -Crush They used to be amazing value for the money, then AT realized how popular they were and bumped the price up 40%. Now they're slightly overpriced if anything. Doesn't make them bad by any means but I wouldn't recommend them personally unless you're looking for something portable. And if you wanted to get something portable I'd recommend the HD25-1 II instead, better SQ more portable. Costs a bit more though. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
I'll probably use those for extended studio sessions (4-6 hours nonstop working) as well Is it a good buy for the price? | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:38 joohyunee wrote: Hi, I'm thinking about getting westone's UM1 for gaming/listening to music/making music/maybe some isolation I'll probably use those for extended studio sessions (4-6 hours nonstop working) as well Is it a good buy for the price? I have the Westone 3 which looks similar. Its great and comfortable and really molds to your ears. Only bad thing about it is that that ear foams turn yellow. I tried cleaning i with rubbing alcohol and it sort of degraded the thing. Ended up buying some more ear cushions. | ||
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spaZzNx-`
Hong Kong1221 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
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Ikidomari
Australia485 Posts
Would recommend this pair to anyone looking to spend under $150 | ||
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Gr1m-
Belgium22 Posts
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kineSiS-
Korea (South)1068 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:08 spaZzNx-` wrote: outside of my budget TT something similar to that but at a lower price..? VSonic GR06. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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