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On December 12 2011 20:52 FinBenton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 10:10 Djzapz wrote:Buying those HD650's has been a nightmare... (and pretty awesome, can't wait to get them) 1- My source has a small glitch so I'd like a new one but I'm already well beyond my budget. 2- I don't know which amp to pick to get the most out of the headphones 3- Head-fi people seem to think I need to spend another $500 =P Really wish my Bravura would stop sucking  If you use PC then just get Asus Xonar soundcard http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_Essence_STX/Its way enough for HD600-650, always take everything from head-fi with a grain of salt as there are a lot of people who doesnt have any experience in lesser expensive equipment. Its a great forum though but you need to know how to read it 
Yeah I'm strongly considering the Essence STX. Hopefully they start falling from the sky :D
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On December 12 2011 21:42 Cereb wrote:Do anyone own a pair of Beats by Dr Dre? It seems litterally every big named DJ uses them in their music video at least so was wondering if anyone has experienced them ? 
It's all marketing
There are a lot more better priced headphones out there that cost way less
Not saying they are bad, just overpriced
Hence why they are not looked to favorably among the hifi community 
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On December 13 2011 10:27 JSH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:42 Cereb wrote:Do anyone own a pair of Beats by Dr Dre? It seems litterally every big named DJ uses them in their music video at least so was wondering if anyone has experienced them ? It's all marketing There are a lot more better priced headphones out there that cost way less Not saying they are bad, just overpriced Hence why they are not looked to favorably among the hifi community
From my understanding, they reproduce sound really, really poorly but they increase some things that people like. I don't know what terms audiophiles really use but something like deeper lows and brighter highs (whatever). They basically trade true sound for "exciting" sound. And they're overpriced anyway
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On November 17 2011 22:11 iMYoonA wrote:
If you think those are comfortable, I assure you that if you bought a pair of AD700's which are ACTUAL headphones, then the comfort level would be out of this world. To this day the AD700's are still the most comfortable headphone I have owned.
I used to be one to buy gaming headsets : I had both the Steelseries 3H and the 5Hv2. Buying a pair of AD700's and giving those away to friends was probably one of the best decisions I have made.
On another note: I've started to integrate my DAC into my setup. At the moment, running a xonar dx -> home built modified cyrus 1 amp is working really well with both my headphones, but having tested adding a dedicated DAC (also self built), the sound is rather improved! I'll upload some pics when im done (after im back from korea)
I bought a pair of AD700's on your rec. after finding a used, "open box" pair for $75. And holy FUCK.
These things are the lightest, most comfortable headphones I've ever seen. There's quite a bit of plastic, but they feel very well made, and that magnesium mesh cover makes them mind-blowingly light.
The bass isn't as heavy as I was hoping, but I'm really a basswhore, and these are a much more "natural" audio sound, and sure enough, fired up some chemical brothers and they damn near shook my eyeballs loose from their sockets. So all is well, these babies hit hard when I need them to.
The chord is thick, and while it isn't braided, looks really, REALLY rugged. Also the 3.5mm-1/4 screw-on adapter is a fantastic touch.
All in all, these are officially the best non-IEM headphones I've ever had (my klipsch S4's are still king mostly because I ran my last pair over with a car and they survived on to work perfectly for another year) and if they prove to be just as reliable as the klpisch, sony, or sennheiser stuff I've owned in the past, these things are leaps and bounds better than any headset I've tried, at ANY price range.
Thanks for the suggestion man, these things will (hopefully) serve me for many years to come!
So, anyone looking for an affordable pair of amazing headphones, the ADH-AD700's are what I recommend.
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On December 13 2011 11:16 Honeybadger wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 22:11 iMYoonA wrote:
If you think those are comfortable, I assure you that if you bought a pair of AD700's which are ACTUAL headphones, then the comfort level would be out of this world. To this day the AD700's are still the most comfortable headphone I have owned.
I used to be one to buy gaming headsets : I had both the Steelseries 3H and the 5Hv2. Buying a pair of AD700's and giving those away to friends was probably one of the best decisions I have made.
On another note: I've started to integrate my DAC into my setup. At the moment, running a xonar dx -> home built modified cyrus 1 amp is working really well with both my headphones, but having tested adding a dedicated DAC (also self built), the sound is rather improved! I'll upload some pics when im done (after im back from korea)
I bought a pair of AD700's on your rec. after finding a used, "open box" pair for $75. And holy FUCK. These things are the lightest, most comfortable headphones I've ever seen. There's quite a bit of plastic, but they feel very well made, and that magnesium mesh cover makes them mind-blowingly light. The bass isn't as heavy as I was hoping, but I'm really a basswhore, and these are a much more "natural" audio sound, and sure enough, fired up some chemical brothers and they damn near shook my eyeballs loose from their sockets. So all is well, these babies hit hard when I need them to. The chord is thick, and while it isn't braided, looks really, REALLY rugged. Also the 3.5mm-1/4 screw-on adapter is a fantastic touch. All in all, these are officially the best non-IEM headphones I've ever had (my klipsch S4's are still king mostly because I ran my last pair over with a car and they survived on to work perfectly for another year) and if they prove to be just as reliable as the klpisch, sony, or sennheiser stuff I've owned in the past, these things are leaps and bounds better than any headset I've tried, at ANY price range. Thanks for the suggestion man, these things will (hopefully) serve me for many years to come! So, anyone looking for an affordable pair of amazing headphones, the ADH-AD700's are what I recommend.
Glad to help
Just a few things to point out:
Someone mentioned a lot of problems with head-fi. I think the greatest problem there is exaggeration of differences between very, very similar products. There is also to inherent problem of how we go about finding differences in products. Lets say theres 2 products, and you are told they are slightly different. This all changes when you're told what that difference is, because you go out of your way to find that difference. So yeah, all I would take from head-fi is general consensus on the product, on things like how they output bass, treble etc. For anyone buying, i'd pretty much reccommend looking at the top headphones there, and then trying for yourself. nothing beats trying for yourself.
Secondly some people talking about the AKGs:
those bumps are incredibly annoying. at first i had to wear a towel on my head first, but now, after about 2-3 months they've softened up, but for gaming i still go to ad700's. The AKG's have AMAZING sound though. The bass level is just a tad lower than what I would like, but I am still in the process of integrating my dac into the setup. But trust me, the treble and mids are crazy good.
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Hey I've been reading through this thread some, posted a couple of times, and really enjoy my Sennheiser HD 555s. I do have a bit of a request for you guys though.
I've had my 555s for a couple of years, and they have served me great. They are slowly becoming worn down though, and the open ear-ness has become quite the problem in school, as everyone can hear my music, plus I can hear theirs. This hasn't really bothered me before, as I really enjoy the improved sound quality, but I kind of really need to maybe upgrade to some nice closed ear.
So to simplify it:
+ Show Spoiler +Sennheisers are preferable
<200$
Around the Ear
Comfortable; Light.
so if anyone knows any good headphones like this, and has had some good experience and would be willing to reccomned them, it would be reallllly appreciated! Thanks!
Forgot to mention: I use them mainly from my laptop with an external SoundBlaster Card, and I use them mostly use them for gaming (LoL, SC2, Skyrim) and I listen to + Show Spoiler +Deadmau5
Cascada
Porter Robinson
and some weakl Dub
So from my personal research, these two seem like the best for me? Really curious about your opinions...
DT 770s
HFI 780
^maybe not.... They don't seem to great for me, but would love to hear that from you.
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On December 13 2011 12:16 Juddas wrote:Hey I've been reading through this thread some, posted a couple of times, and really enjoy my Sennheiser HD 555s. I do have a bit of a request for you guys though. I've had my 555s for a couple of years, and they have served me great. They are slowly becoming worn down though, and the open ear-ness has become quite the problem in school, as everyone can hear my music, plus I can hear theirs. This hasn't really bothered me before, as I really enjoy the improved sound quality, but I kind of really need to maybe upgrade to some nice closed ear. So to simplify it: + Show Spoiler +Sennheisers are preferable
<200$
Around the Ear
Comfortable; Light. so if anyone knows any good headphones like this, and has had some good experience and would be willing to reccomned them, it would be reallllly appreciated! Thanks! Forgot to mention: I use them mainly from my laptop with an external SoundBlaster Card, and I use them mostly use them for gaming (LoL, SC2, Skyrim) and I listen to + Show Spoiler +Deadmau5
Cascada
Porter Robinson
and some weakl Dub . So from my personal research, these two seem like the best for me? Really curious about your opinions... DT 770sHFI 780^maybe not.... They don't seem to great for me, but would love to hear that from you.
The DT770s sound perfect for your situation. They're one of the best isolating cans out there, and very comfortable with velour pads. They match very well with dubstep (I would know), and they sound pretty good unamped.
My only qualms:
- The Pro version really crushes your head out of the box, so you'll probably need to loosen them up.
- The bass sounds pretty good unamped, but sounds amazing amped. It's not really a drawback, but something you'll probably look forward to in the future.
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Completely new to headphones (only ever owned the cheap $10 Wal-Mart kind) but now that I've got my computer squared away I'm looking to upgrade my peripherals. I've seen a few sets suggested for my purposes (almost entirely gaming/skype/vent) over the last few pages but they were outside of what I'd like to spend.
What I'm looking for:
Under $150 firm, would prefer around $100
Would like a mic (attached or not doesn't matter, but the combined price under $150)
Good bang for my buck for gaming, vent, possible streaming, and occasional music (blues/classic rock mostly, but a little of everything else from time to time as well)
In this price range am I just better off buying a cheap $30 set? Because it seems like the cheapest that have been suggested lately are around $200. Thanks guys!
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On December 13 2011 14:01 Critter wrote:
Completely new to headphones (only ever owned the cheap $10 Wal-Mart kind) but now that I've got my computer squared away I'm looking to upgrade my peripherals. I've seen a few sets suggested for my purposes (almost entirely gaming/skype/vent) over the last few pages but they were outside of what I'd like to spend.
What I'm looking for:
Under $150 firm, would prefer around $100
Would like a mic (attached or not doesn't matter, but the combined price under $150)
Good bang for my buck for gaming, vent, possible streaming, and occasional music (blues/classic rock mostly, but a little of everything else from time to time as well)
In this price range am I just better off buying a cheap $30 set? Because it seems like the cheapest that have been suggested lately are around $200. Thanks guys!
There's stuff around for you.
First thing, get the Zalman attachable mic to go along with whatever you get.
As for cans: it depends a lot on your music preference, but I can throw out some preliminary suggestions like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700.
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On December 13 2011 14:06 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 14:01 Critter wrote:
Completely new to headphones (only ever owned the cheap $10 Wal-Mart kind) but now that I've got my computer squared away I'm looking to upgrade my peripherals. I've seen a few sets suggested for my purposes (almost entirely gaming/skype/vent) over the last few pages but they were outside of what I'd like to spend.
What I'm looking for:
Under $150 firm, would prefer around $100
Would like a mic (attached or not doesn't matter, but the combined price under $150)
Good bang for my buck for gaming, vent, possible streaming, and occasional music (blues/classic rock mostly, but a little of everything else from time to time as well)
In this price range am I just better off buying a cheap $30 set? Because it seems like the cheapest that have been suggested lately are around $200. Thanks guys! There's stuff around for you. First thing, get the Zalman attachable mic to go along with whatever you get. As for cans: it depends a lot on your music preference, but I can throw out some preliminary suggestions like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700.
Music is mostly Blues with occasional dip into more modern rock, some of the youtube rap (Watsky, Epic Lloyd, Nice Peter, Intuition and the like), a tiny bit of dubstep, and a good amount of classic rock. But mostly it's for gaming. Skyrim, BF3, SC2, LoL, probably SWTOR/D3 when they come out. Given that I don't own a decent MP3 player atm it'll be used pretty exclusively on my computer for the foreseeable future.
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On December 13 2011 14:25 Critter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 14:06 seiferoth10 wrote:On December 13 2011 14:01 Critter wrote:
Completely new to headphones (only ever owned the cheap $10 Wal-Mart kind) but now that I've got my computer squared away I'm looking to upgrade my peripherals. I've seen a few sets suggested for my purposes (almost entirely gaming/skype/vent) over the last few pages but they were outside of what I'd like to spend.
What I'm looking for:
Under $150 firm, would prefer around $100
Would like a mic (attached or not doesn't matter, but the combined price under $150)
Good bang for my buck for gaming, vent, possible streaming, and occasional music (blues/classic rock mostly, but a little of everything else from time to time as well)
In this price range am I just better off buying a cheap $30 set? Because it seems like the cheapest that have been suggested lately are around $200. Thanks guys! There's stuff around for you. First thing, get the Zalman attachable mic to go along with whatever you get. As for cans: it depends a lot on your music preference, but I can throw out some preliminary suggestions like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700. Music is mostly Blues with occasional dip into more modern rock, some of the youtube rap (Watsky, Epic Lloyd, Nice Peter, Intuition and the like), a tiny bit of dubstep, and a good amount of classic rock. But mostly it's for gaming. Skyrim, BF3, SC2, LoL, probably SWTOR/D3 when they come out. Given that I don't own a decent MP3 player atm it'll be used pretty exclusively on my computer for the foreseeable future.
Okay, I think what I suggested the first time will match well with what you want. Keep in mind these aren't bass monsters, but more analytical, midrange masters to accentuate vocals/guitars/etc. Oh, and these are open, so if you care about isolation you may have to reconsider.
http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323754540&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323754556&sr=1-1
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Thanks a lot seif. Ordering my new mouse and keyboard tomorrow, probably order the headphones/mic in another few weeks. If you (or anyone else) comes across anything they think would fit me better before then feel free to let me know =D
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ATH-AD700 would probably be nobody's choice for dubstep, but I think that was low on the list of priorities. Just to make sure, you realize these are open, meaning you hear outside sounds pretty much as if you were wearing nothing, and other people hear the headphone's sounds as if you just had a couple of speakers strapped next to your ears?
If that's okay, that would be my suggestion as well. Most people like how it fits a lot, but some people with smaller heads or ears that don't like to be touched (lightly) may complain.
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From what little I've read the open ear headphones are generally better for gaming since you can pick out where the sounds are coming from easier (please correct me if I'm wrong on that). And yeah, dubstep is pretty low on the list, so I don't think I'd mind not 'feeling' the bass as much for gaming, which is by far the top priority. As for others hearing the noise that doesn't bother me. It's all computer use (in my room), although if I wanted to stream would this possibly cause an echo with a mic. If so that's a mild concern as I was considering streaming at some point in the future.
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On December 13 2011 15:30 Critter wrote:
From what little I've read the open ear headphones are generally better for gaming since you can pick out where the sounds are coming from easier (please correct me if I'm wrong on that). And yeah, dubstep is pretty low on the list, so I don't think I'd mind not 'feeling' the bass as much for gaming, which is by far the top priority. As for others hearing the noise that doesn't bother me. It's all computer use (in my room), although if I wanted to stream would this possibly cause an echo with a mic. If so that's a mild concern as I was considering streaming at some point in the future.
Yeah, as a generalization, open headphones excel in soundstage width (ease of differentiation between left and right) compared to closed headphones.
As for the mic question, I'm only 95% sure on this, but I don't think it will be a problem. The headphones project outwards from the grills, so assuming your mic is somewhere near your chin, it shouldn't pick up TOO much of what you're listening to.
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On December 13 2011 14:01 Critter wrote:
Completely new to headphones (only ever owned the cheap $10 Wal-Mart kind) but now that I've got my computer squared away I'm looking to upgrade my peripherals. I've seen a few sets suggested for my purposes (almost entirely gaming/skype/vent) over the last few pages but they were outside of what I'd like to spend.
What I'm looking for:
Under $150 firm, would prefer around $100
Would like a mic (attached or not doesn't matter, but the combined price under $150)
Good bang for my buck for gaming, vent, possible streaming, and occasional music (blues/classic rock mostly, but a little of everything else from time to time as well)
In this price range am I just better off buying a cheap $30 set? Because it seems like the cheapest that have been suggested lately are around $200. Thanks guys!
Grado sr-60s are probably the best buy for 100$, you don't even need an amplifier or a soundcard for em. Grados are really good for rock music (IMO). But since theyre open-ear they are fairly uncomfortable (at least for me) to use for long periods of time.
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@seiferoth10
do you think there are any better options? Those just really don't seem all that great... and they aren't very sexy.
Any good Sennheisers?
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There's no good closed circumaural Sennheisers, at least nothing on the level of DT770. Most "circumaural" headphones tend not to be really around the ear unless you have small ears, or have shallow earcups and thus press against the ear. The Ultrasones are a bit smaller and may fit into that category for many. Most headphones don't have as good build quality as the DT 770/880/990 anyway.
If you really want Sennheiser, HD 25-1 II (not SP) is definitely not circumaural, but it's in the price range and very well liked.
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Well damn my dunbo ears...
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I'm wondering, would it be possible to convert the AD700's to a closed design by modifying the cage around the drivers?
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