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BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
December 07 2011 03:29 GMT
#2261
On December 07 2011 10:50 victoryimminent wrote:
Speaking of DACs, would anyone be able to recommend me a USB DAC that would pair well with a Little Dot MKIII amp and a Sennheiser HD600? I'm purchasing an audiophile setup for my father for Christmas and realized that he will be listening mostly out of a PC so a DAC will be necessary since he doesn't have a sound card.

I've done a bit of research and read a few good reviews on the HRT Music Streamer II. I've also looked into the Little Dot DAC I which seems to be a more expensive if not more sleek and well made DAC (and the fact that it is more expensive than the amp is certainly something). Any other recommendations or concerns would be greatly appreciated.


I did some research on portable DAC and I never heard of either Little Dot MKII or HRT (nice reviews on amazon though). Only names that people praise are uDAC-2 and variations of iBasso.
TorontoRaccoon
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada49 Posts
December 07 2011 03:29 GMT
#2262
I honestly thing its a form factor of its own - being so tiny, so small.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
December 07 2011 03:31 GMT
#2263
is it okay for me to post a question on earphones here? :o
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 07 2011 03:32 GMT
#2264
On December 07 2011 12:18 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
Triple-fi is so uncomfortable its not even funny. X10's are single driver, no point comparing. I paid 350 bucks - I though it was kind of ovepriced, but for 99 bucks? Pfft give me five!

$350 0.0

With that kind of money I would try the Earsonic SM3.

Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 07 2011 03:39 GMT
#2265
On December 07 2011 12:29 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
I honestly thing its a form factor of its own - being so tiny, so small.


They're still both IEMs and the same price.

Anyway I will concede that at $99, the X10s are a good value relative to what I spent (> $60) on the S4s. I guess it's hard to comment on the relative value versus something like the M6's which are so cheap.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 07 2011 03:48 GMT
#2266
On December 07 2011 12:32 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 12:18 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
Triple-fi is so uncomfortable its not even funny. X10's are single driver, no point comparing. I paid 350 bucks - I though it was kind of ovepriced, but for 99 bucks? Pfft give me five!

$350 0.0

With that kind of money I would try the Earsonic SM3.



I'm skeptical of the value of any pair of universal IEMs over $300.

There's probably still a lot of room for improvement in the high-end IEM space considering the amount of interest in recent years. I would wait a few years before spending that kind of money on universals.

Currently, given everything I've read and heard, I would say that the triple-fis and the X10s offer the best value.
TorontoRaccoon
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada49 Posts
December 07 2011 03:50 GMT
#2267
On December 07 2011 12:32 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 12:18 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
Triple-fi is so uncomfortable its not even funny. X10's are single driver, no point comparing. I paid 350 bucks - I though it was kind of ovepriced, but for 99 bucks? Pfft give me five!

$350 0.0

With that kind of money I would try the Earsonic SM3.



Well the X10's are the only non customs I still own. Well I think I had the Shure 530s somewhere. I like my X10's and for all the time I had them - I do not regret.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 07 2011 03:54 GMT
#2268
On December 07 2011 12:50 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 12:32 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 07 2011 12:18 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
Triple-fi is so uncomfortable its not even funny. X10's are single driver, no point comparing. I paid 350 bucks - I though it was kind of ovepriced, but for 99 bucks? Pfft give me five!

$350 0.0

With that kind of money I would try the Earsonic SM3.



Well the X10's are the only non customs I still own. Well I think I had the Shure 530s somewhere. I like my X10's and for all the time I had them - I do not regret.


Wait.. you own multiple customs?

Wow, Mr. investment banker, I guess my value proposition argument/comparison doesn't apply to the 1%.

Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
December 07 2011 09:03 GMT
#2269
Hello headphone/set experts.

I've been looking for a new headphone/set for a while but I have some specific requirements. With these I've found it nigh impossible to find something to my liking and I was hoping someone here could make some suggestions.

I'm primarly looking for a headset (ie with a mic, prefered to be detachable)
Wireless (so I can chill on couch for movie or bike-train while having some tunes on)
dockstation, so I don't have to replace batteries, and the phones just charge off the dockstation
said dockstation with 3.5mm plugs so I can plug it into my pc's sound card.
over-ear (mayhap with active noise canceling but that is low-prio)

I am however not an audiophile, so I am willing to make some concessions on sound quality.

Any advice?
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:21:47
December 07 2011 09:12 GMT
#2270
A mic AND wireless? I've never seen anything with those two features together.

My recommendation would be to get the following mic:
http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ
and then get whatever wireless headphones you want.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 11:06:04
December 07 2011 09:26 GMT
#2271
On December 07 2011 18:03 Karok wrote:
I'm primarly looking for a headset (ie with a mic, prefered to be detachable)
Wireless (so I can chill on couch for movie or bike-train while having some tunes on)
dockstation, so I don't have to replace batteries, and the phones just charge off the dockstation
said dockstation with 3.5mm plugs so I can plug it into my pc's sound card.
over-ear (mayhap with active noise canceling but that is low-prio)


I'm not sure if you'll find anything satisfying all of those conditions, because it doesn't make much sense to do it that way from a technical perspective. To transmit the audio data wirelessly, you want the data still to be in the digital domain. Then the receiver on the headphones side can get the signal and convert into analog. It doesn't make too much sense for the transmitter on the computer side to take in analog audio if it's going to be transmitting it in digital format. i.e. computer D/A -> 3.5mm cable -> dock A/D -> wireless -> headphones receiver D/A -> headphones. That would be an extra D/A and A/D cycle, introducing additional latency, degrading the signal a little bit, and reducing the control the manufacturer has over the signal chain.

So as a guess, I'd think that these devices would not have analog inputs on the dock.


edit: nevermind some have analog inputs on the base station transmitter, probably intended for say a portable player, which sounds like something people would use

I know Sennheiser has a gajillion headphone models, and their MM and RS lines may be applicable to some degree. I think RS has no mic, but MM does have a microphone. A lot of stage crew / professional communications headsets / etc. would be wireless and have a microphone, but those tend to be single-sided (single ear) or in-ear rather than fullsize.
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_wireless-headphones
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_travel-line

I'm not that familiar with wireless headphones, so I can't think of other reputable manufacturers who make those.

edit: wouldn't a wired clip-on mic defeat the purpose of going wireless?

rofl the flagship MM 550 at like $400 are officially used by the Dallas Mavericks (NBA team). There's a quote from Cuban.
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/bluetooth-wireless-headphones-noise-cancelling_portable_502417
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:36:32
December 07 2011 09:35 GMT
#2272
Oh hey, I found something close to what you want:
http://www.creative.com/soundblaster/worldofwarcraft/wirelessheadset/

The only difference from your list is that it syncs with the PC via a usb key, and there's no dock, it is charged via a usb cable.

Edit: Oh, and another con: it's WoW branded.
Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:38:38
December 07 2011 09:37 GMT
#2273
Hm ok, so, just the docking station/charger thingy then, dropping the 3.5mm pins (and asuming it'll be usb powered then?)
I'd just really hate working with replacing batteries all the time and using some external charger for them.

Thanks for the suggestions!

The Zalman mic looks like an awesome solution to the whole mic deal.

So I guess all that is left is a wireless headset with docking station/charger! :D
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 07 2011 09:37 GMT
#2274
Oh yeah, well disregarding "reputable" (with respect to audio), many of the gaming peripherals brands may have a wireless headset, so I can't imagine they're that uncommon.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 07 2011 09:43 GMT
#2275
On December 07 2011 18:37 Karok wrote:
Hm ok, so, just the docking station/charger thingy then, dropping the 3.5mm pins (and asuming it'll be usb powered then?)
I'd just really hate working with replacing batteries all the time and using some external charger for them.

Thanks for the suggestions!

The Zalman mic looks like an awesome solution to the whole mic deal.

So I guess all that is left is a wireless headset with docking station/charger! :D


At that point I'm pretty sure the Senn RS180 is the best there is with a docking station.


Oh, and I posted the WoW headsets facetiously .
Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:56:57
December 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#2276
Just been looking at that RS180 idd, looked interesting. How well does it combine with a generic PC soundcard? (ie, only 3.5mm 5.1 plugs and a digital out)

Also what is the major difference compared to the RS170? theres around a 50euro difference between them :o
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 10:05:53
December 07 2011 10:02 GMT
#2277
The transmitter accepts 3.5mm, so it'll be fine.

As for the difference, from what I can tell the 170 is closed, the 180 is open. Also 180 has velour pads, 170 has leatherette pads (I highly recommend velour, but this is up to what you like to wear).

You can peruse this thread to learn more:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/443740/sennheiser-rs160-170-180-anyone
Cytokinesis
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada330 Posts
December 07 2011 10:04 GMT
#2278
I had recently been looking for portable circumaural headphones (over rather than on) and picked up some Denon 1100's. I just have to say wow and I am never going back to any other portable headphone ever again. I run it with LOD iPod into a "Head-fi amp" (I forgot who made it but it was sold through Head-fi a few years ago) and it sounds fantastic. Would highly, highly, highly recommend for 160$.
Ive seen people who dont believe in sleep count sheep with calculators that double as alarm clocks
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 07 2011 10:06 GMT
#2279
On December 07 2011 12:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 12:32 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 07 2011 12:18 TorontoRaccoon wrote:
Triple-fi is so uncomfortable its not even funny. X10's are single driver, no point comparing. I paid 350 bucks - I though it was kind of ovepriced, but for 99 bucks? Pfft give me five!

$350 0.0

With that kind of money I would try the Earsonic SM3.



I'm skeptical of the value of any pair of universal IEMs over $300.

There's probably still a lot of room for improvement in the high-end IEM space considering the amount of interest in recent years. I would wait a few years before spending that kind of money on universals.

Currently, given everything I've read and heard, I would say that the triple-fis and the X10s offer the best value.

SM3's price is currently $380. People who listened to it say it's a whole tier above stuff like shure 535, triple fi 10, westone UM3X.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Tarfire
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 14:28:37
December 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#2280
Hey, maybe someone can help me out.

I need a pair of headphones with a mic.. however I may just get an attachable one due to the fact that I would also like to use these headphones on the go.

So, if I were to get a pair of headphones around $50-60 (no mic required), what is the best option for sound quality? (I want some decent bass in them)
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