EPTThat said, I wear -6 lenses and play Starcraft all day. Ah well.
The Myopia Myth? - Page 3
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
That said, I wear -6 lenses and play Starcraft all day. Ah well. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Edit: Oh wait, stupid conspiracy theory. Obviously the purpose of a scientific journal is to sell shit, and not to advance knowledge. Never mind that doctors don't profit off of you buying glasses, they profit off of you going to see the doctor - what kind of glasses they prescribe you is totally irrelevant to their own income. | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
In any event, basically, I don't care if they're making my eyes worse... At the very worst they're a necessary evil. | ||
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Dukat
United States235 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 09 2010 16:20 munchmunch wrote: Finally, dude, none of those websites are close to professional. If I feel like procrastinating a bit more, I'll connect to my libraries proxy and troll PubMed for you for a bit. I'm starting to doubt its authencity a lot more now, but I don't know , I can't deny the relaxed feeling of taking off my glasses. But I eagerly await your trolling results :D On November 09 2010 16:20 Psiven wrote: There are therapies and methods that may or may not work reliably for trying to improve your vision, but corrective lenses always work. It's not a conspiracy to sell more lenses, it's the necessity of clear vision at all times for people to go about their day-to-day lives. I'm quite aware that sitting in a dark room staring at a bright screen 18" from my face while wearing -4 diopter contact lenses for weeks at a time without taking them out at night is probably making my vision worse over time, but that doesn't mean it makes sense to walk around blind all day refusing to use computers and hoping that my vision will slowly fix itself. I'm so nearsighted I can't read a book comfortably without my contacts, let alone while wearing reading glasses. Just to clarify certain parts, there are alternate advocated methods such as bifocal glasses or a more shady, pinhole glasses. For you and me, reading without glasses should already have the effect of a healthier person reading a book with reading glasses I suppose - That's what I'm comfortable with anyways with ~5 diopters. Maybe it's just the effect me playing basketball without my glasses for almost 2 hours a day for a few years feeling less handicapped without my glasses, thought I recognise who's on my team based on their clothing and body sizes. Can't see any faces. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
From some brief reading on wikipedia, it doesn't seem that the human eye is all that well understood. It's not actually known what causes the eye to continue to elongate, and thus continue to develope worse myopia, as people get older. But it is one theory that the eye changes its shape to adapt itself to the way it's being used, just like your brain or your muscles. Wearing glasses to counter an increase in short-sightedness wouldn't then be any different, than leaning closer to the object you're looking at. It just gives your eye more reason to adapt. Personally i tend to think there must be some kind of eye exercises one can do to return them to a more regular state. Btw, i've been prescriped glasses more than 5 years ago, have only worn them a handful of times for the fun of it, and haven't noticed my eyes getting any worse, while being highly concious about it. | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
Edit: In fact it's so dumb it should be closed. This is misleading garbage for people that may have myopia. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
The eye exercises serve to relax the eyes - a similar purpose to reading glasses on a healthier person. Relaxing by looking further. | ||
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Psiven
United States148 Posts
I can't deny the relaxed feeling of taking off my glasses. That's because your eyes are relaxing. Especially if you're not used to your prescription or it's incorrect, you will get noticeable eye strain from using them. Whether it has a measurable effect on your long-term vision is another matter entirely. | ||
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Kishkumen
United States650 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 09 2010 16:56 Psiven wrote: That's because your eyes are relaxing. Especially if you're not used to your prescription or it's incorrect, you will get noticeable eye strain from using them. Whether it has a measurable effect on your long-term vision is another matter entirely. Ya, they are relaxing, and it is supposed to be good. I don't think there's anything wrong with my prescription. I guess I'll have to try it out myself to find out about the long term effects, since I seem to have a different level of discomfort (comfort) compared to others without my glasses. (Talking about wearing them less, not totally discarding them) | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On November 09 2010 15:06 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Dude I've been in the emergency room like 3 times in less than a year (all for different things unrelated) and I am so far in debt from it I dunno what I am gonna do. I keep getting collection agencies calling me and I just don't even answer anymore and I hope they won't find me since I am in a different state now. I think I'm okay I can like barely feel it now. But yeah I think that some of these things might be true because if you hit your eye and it becomes a different shape and that makes it worse there should be a way to shape it in a positive way through some of these things. Sorry to belabor this point but HOLY SHIT GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM! you're already fucked by debt, how much worse can it get? you could go fucking blind. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Frigo
Hungary1023 Posts
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
A recent paper: + Show Spoiler + Randomized Trial of Effect of Bifocal and Prismatic Bifocal Spectacles on Myopic Progression --- ARCH OPHTHALMOL / VOL 128 (NO. 1), JAN 2010. A number of well-designed prospective studies have investigated the effect of positive lenses, in bifocal or multifocal form, on myopic progression in children. However, bifocals and multifocals have proven to be relatively ineffective myopia-control treatments in children. Of the many myopia-control studies, the study by Leung and Brown showed the greatest treatment effect (myopia control, -0.47 D per 2 years with multifocals). ... A later multifocal study conducted in Hong Kong ... failed to replicate the results (myopic control, -0.14 D per 2 years with multifocals) [no significant treatment effect]. Not surprisingly, wikipedia has a good section on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myopia#Myopia_control + Show Spoiler + Various methods have been employed in an attempt to decrease the progression of myopia.[30] Dr Chua Weihan and his team at National Eye Centre Singapore have conducted large scale studies on the effect of Atropine of varying strength in stabilizing, and in some case, reducing myopia. The use of reading glasses when doing close work may provide success by reducing or eliminating the need to accommodate. Altering the use of eyeglasses between full-time, part-time, and not at all does not appear to alter myopia progression.[75][76] The American Optometric Association's Clinical Practice Guidelines for Myopia refers to numerous studies which indicated the effectiveness of bifocal lenses and recommends it as the method for "Myopia Control".[8] In some studies, bifocal and progressive lenses have not shown significant differences in altering the progression of myopia.[30] More recently robust studies on children have shown that Orthokeratology[77] and Centre Distance bifocal contact lenses[78] may arrest myopic development. Basically, eyeglasses don't do well compared to contact lenses and other treatment methods. Finally, note that the myopia of the kids who go through this treatment gets worse, just at a slightly slower rate than other kids. So the idea that wearing reading glasses can fix myopia is still pretty silly. | ||
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TibblesEvilCat
United Kingdom766 Posts
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micronesia
United States24664 Posts
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
But I agree that glasses ruined my eyesight, before I could atleast see objects and persons faces from pretty close distant and little far away, but today I cant even see that close even if you are beside me, I know that it is due the fact I used glasses and contact lenses that screwed my vision. I still need contact lenses to be able to see otherwise my vision is all blurry and no point having it like that. The only + side is girls looks more beautiful when im having bad vision when I put my lenses on Im like oh hell no there is no way im getting with you no matter how drunk I get it still will be NO. | ||
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Zotted
Australia7 Posts
Myopia is the elongation of the eyeball. You have no muscles in the eyeball. Sure you have muscles around it which can help grip and reduce the elongation but the effects are minimal. The reason why myopic patients report a worsesning of their conditions is two fold. 1. They are genetically dispositioned. 2. They subject themselves to environments which elongates the eyeball. Suggesting that wearing no glasses or other prescriptive lenses is almost as ludicrous as saying that looking through a kaleidscope will help your eye muscles to relax and improve your vision. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 10 2010 00:08 Zotted wrote: 2. They subject themselves to environments which elongates the eyeball. Just in case the tone put you off from reading, the theory is that not wearing glasses or for children or mild cases reading glasses will make the eyes relax because it need to focus at something which appears far away as opposed to straining the eye straining when we wear glasses. On November 09 2010 15:25 DarkOptik wrote: " If you're like me I guess we should just relax our eyes more by only wearng our glasses if we really need it like for driving." Shit I was confused for a while and I realised I actually meant " If you're like me I guess we should just relax our eyes more BUT only wearing our glasses if we really need it, like for driving." But it's not exactly my view, just stating what I understand from reading that stuff, since I don't know enough to have a strong stand. On November 09 2010 20:44 Mawi wrote: The only + side is girls looks more beautiful when im having bad vision when I put my lenses on Im like oh hell no there is no way im getting with you no matter how drunk I get it still will be NO. But you're from Sweeden!!! | ||
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