Basically, a Korean Professor in plastic surgery wrote a paper and created these faces from different celebrities. The reason why it came up was that their was a study done on the 'golden ratio' of beauty that a woman's face should have to be truly beautiful, but this Prof has added that there needs to be racial consideration actually. I think the person who has a perfect ratio was Shania Twain.
Well personally, the Korean one definitely isn't the ideal face of beauty for me, but damn the African and the Chinese ones look good to me, thoughts?
A Korean plastic surgeon Sunday unveiled composite photos of the most appealing female face for each ethnicity.
Rhee Seung-chul of Inje University Ilsan Paik Hospital’s Department of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery published a paper on “Attractive Composite Faces” of various races and ethnic groups in Aesthetic Plastic Surgery, the journal of the International Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery.
The “attractive” faces were created by composing famous actresses of each country — 13 Africans, 16 Caucasians, 20 Chinese and 14 Japanese.
For instance, Angelina Jolie, Megan Fox, and Scarlet Johansson are included in the Caucasian examples, while the African models include Rihanna, Agbani Darego, Yamin Warsame and others.
The faces of Chinese entertainers used for the morphed image are Wei Tang, Li Gong, Maggie Cheung among others, while the Japanese sample is a combination of Juri Ueno, Yuu Aoi, Ryoko Hirosue and 11 more faces.
According to Rhee’s composite picture, the attractive Japanese face has a relatively long stucture with a narrow chin and thick cheeks. The charming Chinese woman has small cheekbones and a slim jaw line.
The average Caucasian beauty has the most masculine face among the ethnic groups. “They have keen eyes, thick lips and protruding cheekbones,” Rhee said in his paper.
The example of an African face has a narrower nose, more acute eyes, and slender chin compared with the ordinary African face.
Rhee said there have been attempts to standardize the face of beauty based on the golden ratio, but it is inaccurate due to racial limitations.
“The composite pictures of the average beauty representing each race will help understand new aesthetic preferences considering the diversity of races and ethnic groups in modern society,” the doctor said.
In 2006, Rhee conducted a similar project with 19 Korean female entertainers and the ideal Korean beauty has thin lips and slightly wide eyes with a sharp nose.
I thought it was asking what the stereotypical Zerg player would look like, or Terran player, or Protoss player. *Those* races, rather than Earth races.
Your topic is very interesting, though I'd like to see what the stereotypical StarCraft-race players would look like too
Japanese>Chinese>Caucasian>African>Korean, as a Caucasian. These specific examples seem pretty ehh. I think the african could look way better. So I'm not sure how accurate this is.
Why didn't they use models instead of actresses? Actress weeds out the hot people that can't act. It seems like using models will ensure that they get the prettiest of the prettiest girls.
On October 25 2010 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Oh, I misunderstood the title.
I thought it was asking what the stereotypical Zerg player would look like, or Terran player, or Protoss player. *Those* races, rather than Earth races.
Your topic is very interesting, though I'd like to see what the stereotypical StarCraft-race players would look like too
lmao, that's the same i was thinking when i clicked on this thread
This is not at all some ideal, perfectly beautiful face. This is just showing what the movie industries in each country want their actresses to look like. That's going to change over time. The look now is totally different that it was 20 years ago, for example, or even 10 years ago.
Caucasian looks like a mix of Keira Knightley and Scarlet Johanson, and Chinese looks 99% like Zhang Ziyi. Do you guys think that the face representing your race looks best? I do, like Caucasian the most.
On October 25 2010 01:06 Phrujbaz wrote: Is it me or do they all look like plastic? I guess for me the biggest turn-on is if a woman is still amazingly beautiful without layers of makeup.
Thats just because they are composites, if you combine alot of faces they end up averaging out imperfections in the skin which gives them a flat and painted look.
On October 25 2010 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Oh, I misunderstood the title.
I thought it was asking what the stereotypical Zerg player would look like, or Terran player, or Protoss player. *Those* races, rather than Earth races.
Your topic is very interesting, though I'd like to see what the stereotypical StarCraft-race players would look like too
On October 25 2010 01:07 Luddite wrote: This is not at all some ideal, perfectly beautiful face. This is just showing what the movie industries in each country want their actresses to look like. That's going to change over time. The look now is totally different that it was 20 years ago, for example, or even 10 years ago.
well i had the feeling that it was implied in the study that doctor rhee was trying to create the ideal face for the current few generations :\
On October 25 2010 01:07 Luddite wrote: This is not at all some ideal, perfectly beautiful face. This is just showing what the movie industries in each country want their actresses to look like. That's going to change over time. The look now is totally different that it was 20 years ago, for example, or even 10 years ago.
well i had the feeling that it was implied in the study that doctor rhee was trying to create the ideal face for the current few generations :\
I guess I just hate the way they try to pass off stuff like this as objective science. Like this quote: "to standardize the face of beauty based on the golden ratio" That implies that they're discovering some deep truth, when it's really just a fashion/marketing trend.
The African face is indeed extremely light skinned. There's a reason that Halle Berry is almost the only A-list African American actress right now. Actually all of them except the caucasian face are a lot lighter skinned than the average person.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
I'm glad all of you are far more intelligent than the man who conducted this research and have so easily disproved his conclusions using such impeccable scientific methods that it simply is not up for debate.
Personally, I think the Korean one seems a bit weird, not really what I would imagine. I'm Chinese but I like the Caucasian one the most, maybe because I've lived in America all my life. The Chinese one is decent.
So what would the face look like that's combined from all of these?
But yea I don't think there is any "golden rule" to how to be optimally beautiful. Maybe it is useful for a plasticsurgeon to get the trendy ratios, but it's totally bound to the fashion/culture of the moment. There are some things that could be said to be objectively attractive, like having symmetrical features and such, but beyond that it's in the eye of the beholder...
On October 25 2010 01:38 Enervate wrote: I'm glad all of you are far more intelligent than the man who conducted this research and have so easily disproved his conclusions using such impeccable scientific methods that it simply is not up for debate.
Personally, I think the Korean one seems a bit weird, not really what I would imagine. I'm Chinese but I like the Caucasian one the most, maybe because I've lived in America all my life. The Chinese one is decent.
what the hell. cosmetic plastic surgery is art, not science.
They are composite images which means they have combined the pictures of multiple women. It has been noticed that "average" faces are more attractive for some reason. You can search the web for more of that. Using actresses and models is unnecessary. Just use a lot of randoms collected from the street and you get similar results.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
Uhm... there's a northern part of Africa with the Sahara and Mediterranean Sea and Pyramids and stuff.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
Uhm... there's a northern part of Africa with the Sahara and Mediterranean Sea and Pyramids and stuff.
I think a better point is that just like with Japanese, Chinese, or Korean compared to just Asain, there are also smaller ethnicities within Caucasian and African which the author seems to ignore.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
Uhm... there's a northern part of Africa with the Sahara and Mediterranean Sea and Pyramids and stuff.
Two facial photographs were fused into one at mean values. The composite picture, then, sequentially mixed with other composite pictures to produce a final composite face.
Although these composite faces are not the standard or most ideal attractive faces, and although many biases occurred during the process of photographic sampling, I regard these as good examples for understanding prior and current configurations, balance, harmony, or the secret of attractive faces of different races.
I would love to see a couple of composites mixed from all 5 groups.
Since someone asked about preference, I think I prefer the African composite and I'm Caucasian.
Poll: Which ethnic face are you most attracted to?
My own race (Caucasian) (68)
36%
Different race (Japanese) (26)
14%
Different race (Chinese) (24)
13%
My own race (Chinese) (22)
12%
Different race (African) (14)
7%
Different race (Korean) (12)
6%
Different race (Caucasian) (8)
4%
My own race (African) (6)
3%
My own race (Japanese) (6)
3%
My own race (Korean) (2)
1%
188 total votes
Your vote: Which ethnic face are you most attracted to?
(Vote): My own race (African) (Vote): My own race (Caucasian) (Vote): My own race (Chinese) (Vote): My own race (Japanese) (Vote): My own race (Korean) (Vote): Different race (African) (Vote): Different race (Caucasian) (Vote): Different race (Chinese) (Vote): Different race (Japanese) (Vote): Different race (Korean)
Add this poll to the OP? I'm interested in the results.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
Uhm... there's a northern part of Africa with the Sahara and Mediterranean Sea and Pyramids and stuff.
And trust me, when someone speaks of African women they don't mean Egypt or Iran.
But that's how the author seems to have built that image: mixing pictures from Nigeria and Ghana and Kenia and whatever with pictures from Algeria and Morocco and Egypt etc.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
Uhm... there's a northern part of Africa with the Sahara and Mediterranean Sea and Pyramids and stuff.
And trust me, when someone speaks of African women they don't mean Egypt or Iran.
But that's how the author seems to have built that image: mixing pictures from Nigeria and Ghana and Kenia and whatever with pictures from Algeria and Morocco and Egypt etc.
they're not just ANY pictures.. they're specifically pictures of african celebrities. probably took pictures of african american celebs. so they'd look more like this.
Yeah, this African face looks like Halle Berry or Beyonce.
On October 25 2010 02:45 Ropid wrote: But that's how the author seems to have built that image: mixing pictures from Nigeria and Ghana and Kenia and whatever with pictures from Algeria and Morocco and Egypt etc.
Where did you read that? It says he combined faces of African celebs, including Rihanna, Yasmin Warsame, etc.
Its strange how Caucasian and African are all lumped into one, while the East Asian countries of China, Japan, and Korea are all separated by ethnicity. Granted, it was a Korean prof who did the study, but bc the other races were lumped together, those should be taken with a grain of salt.
On October 25 2010 03:36 News wrote: I don't know why you guys all ganged up on korean face, it actually looks realistic compared to some other ones.
she is actually famous for not having plastic surgery keke.
Didn't know that!
Just posted a pic of Han Ga In because she looks very much like the OP picture; trying to prove that the korean face was done somewhat realistically (some people here said it's ugly or not korean-like).
I agree with the doc about the African and Chinese (coming from a white guy, just to put stuff in perspective), but the other ones I don't quite agree with.
On October 25 2010 00:59 StarSense wrote: The thing about these faces is they're fucking boring. I'd rather have a uniquely beautiful woman than a mannequin.
Yeah, when I saw those faces I thought to myself: "Nice but they all look somehow... fucking boring"
I don't understand how one can claim those are the faces that people find the most attractive when everyone will have their own opinion of beauty. I can think of at least 5 people off the top of my head that I find more attractive than the korean and caucasian examples.
On October 25 2010 01:12 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: Caucasian looks like a mix of Keira Knightley and Scarlet Johanson, and Chinese looks 99% like Zhang Ziyi. Do you guys think that the face representing your race looks best? I do, like Caucasian the most.
yeah kinda but zhang ziyis eyes are not that big hehe
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
the face reminded me a lot of tyra banks imo
and hahahaha i thought this was gonna be about starcraft faces too. i was like 'this thread is probably going to be ridiculous, but here we go'
On October 25 2010 03:50 Klogon wrote: Its strange how Caucasian and African are all lumped into one, while the East Asian countries of China, Japan, and Korea are all separated by ethnicity. Granted, it was a Korean prof who did the study, but bc the other races were lumped together, those should be taken with a grain of salt.
lumping all koreans, chinese or japanese together is silly in itself too.
I used to frequent Gene Expression a lot and I remember reading something like if you combined all the faces and make a composite out of them, the closer the face is to that composite the more attractive people will find it. There was even this site that showed facial composites per region. I can't find a link to that blog though.
On October 25 2010 05:06 shieldbreak wrote: The korean is frickin scary. Reddish around the eyes and the mouth is pretty wide. Anyone else notice that?
motuh wide? looks okay to me, edges of mouth reach up to around the pupils if you drag a line down which is normal..
the caucasian and the african face look by far the best imho. the chinese one is pretty aswell, but not as gorgeous as the other two. the japanese and korean ones dont look too great imho. sure, they are beautiful compared to the population average, but nothing special imho.
The girl on the left has a very sweet face and they all look natural. I prefer real koran girls to girls molded into the american stereotype of plastic surgery and botox.
In the end when it comes to this kind of thing isn't this a cultured preference latent to the south korean culture and their perception of beauty not necessarily a race and beauty as a whole kind of ideal, due to the nature of which celerities are being compared.
The average person is ugly. None of those women are ugly. I think that right there suggests this is a little odd. Maybe they did an average of good looking girls?
this is ridiculous, the "professor" is splitting people up into: "all black people look good like this. all white people look good like this. and then there are theres faces good for japan, korea, and china.
Let me be clear, there is no significant differences between japanese, korean, and chinese faces. Dont believe?Test yourself.
His compilation is just a photoshop overlay of celebrities that HE is familiar with. With no consideration of the other subcategories of "white" people and "black" people.
he blatantly ignores nordic blue eyed blonds, magnificent brazilian copper tans, sensual spanish curvature, alluring indian smiles, radiant south east asians, and- well im running out of adjectives but you get the idea.
On October 25 2010 07:07 Railxp wrote: he blatantly ignores nordic blue eyed blonds, magnificent brazilian copper tans, sensual spanish curvature, alluring indian smiles, radiant south east asians, and- well im running out of adjectives but you get the idea.
I would like to slip my dick into every one of these adjectives, thank you. brb masturbating
On October 25 2010 07:07 Railxp wrote: this is ridiculous, the "professor" is splitting people up into: "all black people look good like this. all white people look good like this. and then there are theres faces good for japan, korea, and china.
Let me be clear, there is no significant differences between japanese, korean, and chinese faces. Dont believe?Test yourself.
His compilation is just a photoshop overlay of celebrities that HE is familiar with. With no consideration of the other subcategories of "white" people and "black" people.
he blatantly ignores nordic blue eyed blonds, magnificent brazilian copper tans, sensual spanish curvature, alluring indian smiles, radiant south east asians, and- well im running out of adjectives but you get the idea.
I agree, its kind of strange to lump all white and black people together but then separate 3 asian groups. but its even stranger that you go off and essentially say "chinese, japanese, and koreans all look the same" while protesting the generalization of racial appearances. So which is it? Do all races have significant national subcategories or just the non-east Asian ones? Or do no races have an significant subcategories?
Oh and if thats the test that I think it is, that test is a little flawed. The sample size is less than 20 TOTAL people, not even just in those racial subcategories. Furthermore, with a sample size that small he could easily pick and choose those who looks are ambiguous, though I doubt he would go through the trouble to do this. You could probably do this with white people or black people, hispanics, or whatever and get the same result.
On October 25 2010 07:20 Manifesto7 wrote: Too bad the smart doctor doesn't realize there is only one race.
QFT.
What he's actually characterizing are the norms of different celebrity cultures, not the preferences of different "races." And as far as his methodology goes, I mean fuck. I don't even know where to start.
P.S.: You can access his studies online. Google Scholar™ that shit and observe the vacuity with your own two eyes. It beggars description.
On October 25 2010 06:39 white wrote: The girl on the left has a very sweet face and they all look natural. I prefer real koran girls to girls molded into the american stereotype of plastic surgery and botox.
Great, this has turned into a "bash American standards" debate...did you not realize the KOREAN doctor inspired the OP? Jeez, I hate it when people criticize Americans blindly.
On October 25 2010 01:12 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: Caucasian looks like a mix of Keira Knightley and Scarlet Johanson, and Chinese looks 99% like Zhang Ziyi. Do you guys think that the face representing your race looks best? I do, like Caucasian the most.
Before reading the article I thought that the Chinese woman was Zhang Ziyi! Zhang Ziyi is so freakin' gorgeous.
I think it really comes down to personal opinion for each individual. I always hate it when "doctors" or the media try to push their ideal looks on everyone.
i thought the point of the study was that "different races have different ideal looks to be the best" Not "these are the ultimate looks you can have for race A." So his study was pointing out the average attractive person for race A is different for race B. with his compositions being there to exemplify what he was saying "the golden ratio idea is imperfect because different races have differing attractive ideals" "look at some example compositions i made - they all look different and favour different features"
On October 25 2010 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Oh, I misunderstood the title.
I thought it was asking what the stereotypical Zerg player would look like, or Terran player, or Protoss player. *Those* races, rather than Earth races.
Your topic is very interesting, though I'd like to see what the stereotypical StarCraft-race players would look like too
That the surgeon has decided to classify Chinese, Japanese and Koreans as seperate "races" along with "white" and "black" is actually an amusing reminder of how we all conceptualise race. People who consider themselves "white" like to sharply differentiate themselves, although they'll use terms like "ethnicity" instead of "race" and happily group other people into broad categories. Seeing this phenomenon from a Korean source reminds us that other people too enjoy making such broad categorisations which can be jarring when we've conditioned ourselves not to think of "black", "asian" or "white" people as one large homogeneous group.
Also amusing is the use of the word "race". Using the word "race" implies some kind of fundamental biological difference - rather than mere aesthetic variance. A more sincere title for the article should be something like "idealisation of beauty amongst different social groups". It may just be a translation so what I say could be be wrong. But I've heard some strange things about, for example, Chinese school biology textbooks which state the Chinese people have different origins from other "races" - something proven false by modern genetic analysis.
I don't know these all look pretty good to me but sometimes something unique can be really fucking hot. I find Eva Mendes quite hot for example and she looks quite different then this.
I must say as a chinese my perception does favor the chinese as #1 and korean as #2.
The "perfect" face of course will never be perfect so long as humans have inaccurate perception so I think it is quite genius of this professor to branch it off to ethnicities.
On October 25 2010 07:07 Railxp wrote: this is ridiculous, the "professor" is splitting people up into: "all black people look good like this. all white people look good like this. and then there are theres faces good for japan, korea, and china.
Let me be clear, there is no significant differences between japanese, korean, and chinese faces. Dont believe?Test yourself.
His compilation is just a photoshop overlay of celebrities that HE is familiar with. With no consideration of the other subcategories of "white" people and "black" people.
he blatantly ignores nordic blue eyed blonds, magnificent brazilian copper tans, sensual spanish curvature, alluring indian smiles, radiant south east asians, and- well im running out of adjectives but you get the idea.
I agree, its kind of strange to lump all white and black people together but then separate 3 asian groups. but its even stranger that you go off and essentially say "chinese, japanese, and koreans all look the same" while protesting the generalization of racial appearances. So which is it? Do all races have significant national subcategories or just the non-east Asian ones? Or do no races have an significant subcategories?
Oh and if thats the test that I think it is, that test is a little flawed. The sample size is less than 20 TOTAL people, not even just in those racial subcategories. Furthermore, with a sample size that small he could easily pick and choose those who looks are ambiguous, though I doubt he would go through the trouble to do this. You could probably do this with white people or black people, hispanics, or whatever and get the same result.
I'm not protesting the generalization of all racial appearances. Nordic faces generally have higher cheek bones, deeper eye sockets, larger noses than asian faces. Asian including east and south asia. Undeniably, faces can be grouped into different types of "stuff that looks the same." Just that there is no difference between korea/chinese/japanese, but there sure is a difference from asia/whiteppl (putting aside skin color).
To raise an analogy, there are plenty of colors in a color spectrum, and those colors are clearly different, but the boundaries between each color are subtle and blurry. But at the end of the day blue is very different from red. I'm saying hes picking out three reds and then calling everything else "dark colors" and "light colors".
I like them all except the korean one and usually I enjoy looking at pretty korean women but I just don't see why that one was chosen as the "ideal" face for korean women.
On October 25 2010 01:20 Scrapiron wrote: The African woman looks like shes had generations of white ancestors. Either that or she is wearing a horrendous amount of make up.
No way that woman is an "average" for an african face. Definitely looks mixed. Japanese seems way off too. Everything else could be true I guess.
This isn't about 'average'. None of those look 'average'.
I personally find Japanese the most attractive, after that Caucasian. After that I stop caring.
Chinese guy here, but I don't find myself quite agreeing with the Chinese face. If the surgeon wanted to separate Asians, he should have done it by region rather than nation -the differences transcend borders. Would have to say the Japanese one is the most attractive -> see my previous post Nanako Matsushima is famous for a reason!
1- Chinese 2 - Caucasian 3 - African 4 - Japanese 5 - Korean
imo
Anyway i pretty much agree that this race/country thing is lame and unscientific.
On October 25 2010 15:18 Applecakes wrote: That the surgeon has decided to classify Chinese, Japanese and Koreans as seperate "races" along with "white" and "black" is actually an amusing reminder of how we all conceptualise race. People who consider themselves "white" like to sharply differentiate themselves, although they'll use terms like "ethnicity" instead of "race" and happily group other people into broad categories. Seeing this phenomenon from a Korean source reminds us that other people too enjoy making such broad categorisations which can be jarring when we've conditioned ourselves not to think of "black", "asian" or "white" people as one large homogeneous group.
Also amusing is the use of the word "race". Using the word "race" implies some kind of fundamental biological difference - rather than mere aesthetic variance. A more sincere title for the article should be something like "idealisation of beauty amongst different social groups".
On October 25 2010 01:10 sob3k wrote: You cant do this, just combining a lot of attractive faces wont get you the "ideal" person.
Here, I made the "ideal" piece of portrait art
I was going to ask if Van Gogh was one of the pictures you used before quoting, but now I realize it says it in the link :[
On a side not, I always think it's interesting when people try to give an absolute answer/definition to something that's as subjective as an ideal face type. It reminds me a lot of Plato trying to give conrete definition to the abstract such as beauty or justice. Very intriguing stuff imo.
Quite right T3tra. But interesting thing is, that most of people will find atleast one face in the "pool" attractive to them. Which doesn't mean that we can't find attractive face that is totally different from the ones presented for each race/ethnic group.
I thought the Chinese picture looks like Zhang Ziyi too. But yeah that's probably the perception of beauty from a Chinese guy. Note the more oval shape of the face.
On October 25 2010 01:10 sob3k wrote: You cant do this, just combining a lot of attractive faces wont get you the "ideal" person.
Here, I made the "ideal" piece of portrait art
Is it just me or is the ideal piece of portrait art looking a lot like chuck norris ? so yea, maybe it IS the ideal portrait.
btt all 5 faces are pretty hot, the korean just looks a little too babyish for my taste. but after all its just a advertisement for plastic surgery - and facial plastic surgery will never ever get you to look like this. and telling people they have to look like some illusional blend of faces to be beautyful just enrages me. people should look like they do, not like an advertisement or victoria secret photoshop. and even if surgery could make you look like one of those in 20 years - wouldnt it be kinda scary to look in the mirror and see a different person !? and is there even an "ideal" look ? there are a lot of other "hot" looking girls out there that look nothing like the 5 faces portraied here.
edit: except chuck norris and boxer ofc, they resemble the ideal look of badass and terran pretty much perfeclty
Poll: Which ethnic face are you most attracted to?
My own race (Caucasian) (68)
36%
Different race (Japanese) (26)
14%
Different race (Chinese) (24)
13%
My own race (Chinese) (22)
12%
Different race (African) (14)
7%
Different race (Korean) (12)
6%
Different race (Caucasian) (8)
4%
My own race (African) (6)
3%
My own race (Japanese) (6)
3%
My own race (Korean) (2)
1%
188 total votes
Your vote: Which ethnic face are you most attracted to?
(Vote): My own race (African) (Vote): My own race (Caucasian) (Vote): My own race (Chinese) (Vote): My own race (Japanese) (Vote): My own race (Korean) (Vote): Different race (African) (Vote): Different race (Caucasian) (Vote): Different race (Chinese) (Vote): Different race (Japanese) (Vote): Different race (Korean)
Add this poll to the OP? I'm interested in the results.
Does the poll relate to the images in the OP or just in general?
The Korean one looks perfectly beautiful to me, I don't get what all the hating is... maybe it's cuz I'm Korean. Now that I think of it, that's probably why.
1. Korean 2. Chinese 3. Japanese 4. Caucasian tied for 4. African
#1. he is a plastic surgeon, so of course he groups by race by ' different regions beauty tastes' not genetics you nutters! But choosing Korea, Chinese, Japanese, Caucasian and African, obviously is a take on his world view (very typical top 5 race categories for a native Korea)
#2. Stop hating on plastic! If women want to have it, let them have their freedom! And if they are socially pressured into having it, well thus is life, I'm socially pressured into drinking bottles of whiskey regardless how close I am to liver failure, but I bring home the bacon and that's my responsibility and IF women feel they have the responsibility to be as attractive as they can and as warped as that may seem, I for one will not deprive them of their right to choose! Plastic ftw!
What is this..... I don't even?! So he meshed together attractive peoples face's based off ethnicity and claims they are ideal? Refer to sentence 1 of this post.
On October 25 2010 06:39 white wrote: The girl on the left has a very sweet face and they all look natural. I prefer real koran girls to girls molded into the american stereotype of plastic surgery and botox.
Clearly this "doctor" is a slave to bourgeoisie consumerist thinking and believes that attractiveness is the result of the ability to recklessly spend and spend on cosmetics which are produced from organic materials exploited from defenseless nations with rich plant resources through imperialist ambition and plastic surgery merely for the sake of demonstrating the depths of their pockets, a fitting demonstration for one enslaved by capitalist greed.
Surely none of his "research" has exposed the obvious fact that a healthy diet free of imperialist bourgeoisie junk food and a strong devotion to hard work and revolutionary idea is the path to natural handsomeness and good looks.
I don't get why some people are getting so up in arms and blatantly white knighting over nothing. This isn't about the accurate representation of races or about what's beautiful on the inside, what this is about is what features in each race tends to be considered the most attractive based on culture.
Considering that this was done by a professor of plastic surgery who makes a living teaching people how to build a face for others based on what their culture deems attractive, it makes perfect sense for him to do this. If you made a living by teaching people to play Starcraft, and you were teaching someone who's never played an RTS how to play, wouldn't you show them at the very least a tech tree?
Also, though the Korean face isn't quite as fundamentally beautiful as the others, I'm pretty sure she would have a smile that could melt anyone on these boards.
The real problem, Rancid, is that current trends in celebrity society do not translate into what "culture deems attractive." That's a faulty assumption, a terribly faulty assumption.
There is also a second faulty assumption here, namely that, as Manlyfesto pointed out, the good doctor believes in "races" and also believes that he is addressing the facial preferences of those races through, again, characterizing current trends in celebrity culture.
On top of these faulty assumptions, there is unscientific methodology. He chooses a handful of celebrities from various "races" that presumably strike him as attractive, mixes them together, and--viola!--an objective standard of what constitutes beauty in the five races of man!
So even if his project of "teaching people how to build an [attractive] face for others" is appropriate for his professional goals (arguable), he's got a sloppy, poorly-reasoned, and ultimately tautological way of going about that project.
Anyways back on topic. Am I the only one that thinks these "faces" are just normal and average?
I see these type of faces all the time.
That is the point, as someone correctly mentionied earlier in this thread. The more average a face is, the more attractive it is rated by people. However, I mean average in the sense of averaging over a lot of faces in a population whereas you probabaly mean average in the sense of "nothing special".
On October 26 2010 18:59 RA wrote: Ideal face type? I don't get it. All my views on people are disrespected by something like this. It's about PERSON not the face.
Whaaat? I don't get this... So this guy took photos of some actresses, sorted them by ethnicity and created one "actress-face-hybrid" for every race. He then stated that these were the ideal faces...
First of all, what method did he use to create those hybrids? Did he just photoshop the different faces together? How did he choose wich caracteristics of wich face had to be included into the hybrid and wich not? How did he choose wich actresses to use in his quest for finding the ideal faces and wich not?
And why are they ideal? Did he just assume popular female actresses are popular because their faces are ideal? Who percieves these faces as ideal? Did he make some sort of study, asking people wich faces are the most ideal to them?
And what does ideal even mean? Are ideal faces the ones that make other people more likely to wanting to mate with the person who wears that face around?
Oh and african, caucasian, chinese, japanese, korean... these are the five "races" of humanity? Really?
It's probably just another stupid study some corporation paid for as a publicity stunt, wich then got into the hands of underpaid journalists, who started cutting out bits of information until the whole thing ended up on that website. And then it found its way to the TL forums and somehow managed to confuse me enough to write a long wall of text that's probably as pointless as the issue it's about.
The Caucasian and Chinese faces seem really accurate. I just tried imagining what my grandparents would say if I brought the Chinese girl home and they would definitely approve lol.
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