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soultwister
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland80 Posts
September 29 2010 23:01 GMT
#161
Nobody is going to try doing what Microsoft did, no one even has the power or control to do it. And even if they did, they'd get sued so hard.

There won't be annother "browser war", unless you want to slap this term onto anything because you like how it sounds.
don't tell your plans to anybody, they won't know you've lost @ soultwister Zerg newb
soultwister
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland80 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 23:15:02
September 29 2010 23:11 GMT
#162
On September 30 2010 07:40 FragKrag wrote:
Just addressing, this security argument...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Chrome-Proves-Un-Hackable-in-Pwn2Own-Competition-138672.shtml


The article says Chrome was patched right before the competition, so no one even took a shot at it. It doesn't make for a fair point.
don't tell your plans to anybody, they won't know you've lost @ soultwister Zerg newb
soultwister
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland80 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 23:13:04
September 29 2010 23:12 GMT
#163
double post
don't tell your plans to anybody, they won't know you've lost @ soultwister Zerg newb
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
September 29 2010 23:16 GMT
#164
On September 18 2010 15:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:

Man, what's with this opera->other stuff shift? Opera for life, baby. Though realistically I use Opera, Firefox, and Chrome, in order of decreasing frequency.


For me, it's because Opera doesn't let me use it anymore. One day it just startet claiming that another copy was already running for a different user - and wouldn't let me start it. Has been so ever since, and it doesn't even make sense as I have only one profile.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 30 2010 00:45 GMT
#165
On September 18 2010 14:59 SonuvBob wrote:
TL's numbers:

Firefox: 51.94%
Chrome: 25.72%
Internet Explorer: 11.54%
Safari: 6.29%
Opera: 3.89%

Chrome is growing pretty fast, or maybe just popular among the SC2 crowd. January (pre-beta) numbers:

Firefox: 57.43%
Internet Explorer: 17.29%
Chrome: 14.68%
Opera: 5.33%
Safari: 4.56%


those really low IE numbers just show that we're all nerds who know what we're doing when it comes to computers

also, im a chrome user
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 30 2010 00:48 GMT
#166
On September 30 2010 09:45 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 14:59 SonuvBob wrote:
TL's numbers:

Firefox: 51.94%
Chrome: 25.72%
Internet Explorer: 11.54%
Safari: 6.29%
Opera: 3.89%

Chrome is growing pretty fast, or maybe just popular among the SC2 crowd. January (pre-beta) numbers:

Firefox: 57.43%
Internet Explorer: 17.29%
Chrome: 14.68%
Opera: 5.33%
Safari: 4.56%


those really low IE numbers just show that we're all nerds who know what we're doing when it comes to computers

also, im a chrome user

Lol very low amount of people online know anything about what they are doing, they are just following recommendations from other users who basically got their info form the telephone game.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 30 2010 01:04 GMT
#167
On September 30 2010 08:01 soultwister wrote:
Nobody is going to try doing what Microsoft did, no one even has the power or control to do it. And even if they did, they'd get sued so hard.

There won't be annother "browser war", unless you want to slap this term onto anything because you like how it sounds.

Microsoft wanted to have a monopoly, which was never Netscape or Firefox or Chrome's objective.

Microsoft is known for their profit oriented business practices, often at the cost of screwing their business partners or customers.
...from the land of imba
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
September 30 2010 01:20 GMT
#168
I like my browser when it's clean and simple. I have no extensions whatsoever, so I'm really fond of Chrome's slender appearance. The appearance can be customized, which is nice, but I can barely see the bar anyway. I also noticed it loads pages faster by processing image later.

What really convinced me to change browser was when I tried to watch a live stream back in Starcraft 2 beta. With Explorer 9, the page would stop responding and I had to force shut down the program with ctlr alt delete. It would do that every time. I tried firefox and it was just as bad if not worse. When I tried force shutting the page, it would not bulge at all. I had to shut down the computer to remove the firefox program. With Chrome, well, it worked :D
This road isn't leading anywhere...
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 30 2010 01:26 GMT
#169
IE9 is supposed to be "faster" than Chrome (according to some website)... load of buuuulll. Though they have given IE9 compatibility with a lot of new interwebs features
:)
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 30 2010 01:52 GMT
#170
On September 30 2010 10:26 synapse wrote:
IE9 is supposed to be "faster" than Chrome (according to some website)... load of buuuulll. Though they have given IE9 compatibility with a lot of new interwebs features

there was some supposed claims about IE being faster than FF back then. it turns out that they did this by preloading IE as part of Windows just like any other startup programs you have running in the background.
...from the land of imba
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
September 30 2010 01:58 GMT
#171
On September 30 2010 08:01 soultwister wrote:
Nobody is going to try doing what Microsoft did, no one even has the power or control to do it. And even if they did, they'd get sued so hard.

There won't be annother "browser war", unless you want to slap this term onto anything because you like how it sounds.


I think it's more of a struggle between the remaining browsers as to who will gain IE's share of things. Once the support stops rolling, people are going to need a new browser, and something has to ship with the new computers.

Personally, I've been using Chrome for a year now, and I have yet to find one thing that honestly bothers me. A few minor things bug me here and there (like not being able to change the links on my homepage to what I want, if I accidentally delete one), but other than that, I love it.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
September 30 2010 04:02 GMT
#172
Hmmm. I've just set IE9 as my default internet browser and i'm liking it so far. Let's see how long till I browser hop to another one :3
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 30 2010 04:04 GMT
#173
On September 30 2010 10:58 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 08:01 soultwister wrote:
Nobody is going to try doing what Microsoft did, no one even has the power or control to do it. And even if they did, they'd get sued so hard.

There won't be annother "browser war", unless you want to slap this term onto anything because you like how it sounds.


I think it's more of a struggle between the remaining browsers as to who will gain IE's share of things. Once the support stops rolling, people are going to need a new browser, and something has to ship with the new computers.

Personally, I've been using Chrome for a year now, and I have yet to find one thing that honestly bothers me. A few minor things bug me here and there (like not being able to change the links on my homepage to what I want, if I accidentally delete one), but other than that, I love it.

The ad blocking add-ons don't seem to work as well on Chrome... weird. I also wish there were more than 8 links when you open a new tab. (Though it means more time on TL, so... )
:)
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 04:09:08
September 30 2010 04:07 GMT
#174
On September 30 2010 10:52 dybydx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 10:26 synapse wrote:
IE9 is supposed to be "faster" than Chrome (according to some website)... load of buuuulll. Though they have given IE9 compatibility with a lot of new interwebs features

there was some supposed claims about IE being faster than FF back then. it turns out that they did this by preloading IE as part of Windows just like any other startup programs you have running in the background.

Well not the argument is benchmarks used to test the systems ususally only test Javascript and maybe one other thing. Which is not representative to how websites are designed. Few sites are largely javascript and quick javascript speed doesn't necessarily connote that it would fully show on screen faster. And So IE9 supposedly does this faster then any other browser. And so they made their own benchmarks which task a larger portion of everything basically. The only issue is that GPU acceleration quickly becomes the center piece of any of these test,which leads to people calling foul even though firefox gpu accelerated beta has very similar performance across those test - a few showing that the test do not really favor any browser, mainly because the browser actually has to render things now which usually involves images, even the ones that are not html5 such as the flying objects
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
September 30 2010 04:26 GMT
#175
I'd be happier if we got standards compliant browsers without the war. Choice is great however creating a great website only to find out it's quirky on IE is just a waste of time.
Nada got Yooned
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 30 2010 04:30 GMT
#176
To be fair IE9 is considered to be more in line with standards then IE6 esp lol IE7 and IE8 during their release.

The only issue is updates
Remember IE8 was considered competitive in speed all around compared to Firefox etc at the time of release. But then a few months after it started to show it's age. Same deal with compliance to standards as webstandards are fairly slow to actually become standards often spending years in draft and recommendations. So Microsoft needs to change the culture of only patching bugs and security holes with their tuesday updates. If they want IE9 to stay competitive past release date they need to update compatibility and performance along with closing security and bug problems.
soultwister
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland80 Posts
September 30 2010 11:04 GMT
#177
On September 30 2010 13:04 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 10:58 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On September 30 2010 08:01 soultwister wrote:
Nobody is going to try doing what Microsoft did, no one even has the power or control to do it. And even if they did, they'd get sued so hard.

There won't be annother "browser war", unless you want to slap this term onto anything because you like how it sounds.


I think it's more of a struggle between the remaining browsers as to who will gain IE's share of things. Once the support stops rolling, people are going to need a new browser, and something has to ship with the new computers.

Personally, I've been using Chrome for a year now, and I have yet to find one thing that honestly bothers me. A few minor things bug me here and there (like not being able to change the links on my homepage to what I want, if I accidentally delete one), but other than that, I love it.

The ad blocking add-ons don't seem to work as well on Chrome... weird. I also wish there were more than 8 links when you open a new tab. (Though it means more time on TL, so... )


It's because ALL of the adds on the internet are by Google, Chrome's existance is there to ensure you're seeing them IMHO.
don't tell your plans to anybody, they won't know you've lost @ soultwister Zerg newb
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 31 2010 23:32 GMT
#178
http://test.w3.org/html/tests/reporting/report.htm
http://caniuse.com

Anyways interesting how official things and things people want conflict.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
October 31 2010 23:39 GMT
#179
On November 01 2010 08:32 semantics wrote:
http://test.w3.org/html/tests/reporting/report.htm
http://caniuse.com

Anyways interesting how official things and things people want conflict.

I like how Chrome is owning shit up in the summary of your second link. Makes me feel I've made a good choice
really?
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
October 31 2010 23:40 GMT
#180
Very interesting read, i personally prefer Google Chrome. I love it.
I can't believe how people can like FireFox, i hate it so much.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
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