They killed the korean hostage?
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Really feel bad for that South Korean killed, this is starting to get rediculous:\ | ||
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Or else they'll just keep kidnapping | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:11 [pG]RaGe wrote: It's nice that South Korea is willing to help out in the effort but if their people are against it they shouldn't send the troops, regardless of how many people the USA currently has there. It's never good for a government to go against the people. This will also give South Koreans more bitter attitudes towards American since they will think their government is just a drone to the USA. Really feel bad for that South Korean killed, this is starting to get rediculous:\ I agree wholeheartedly. Government going against the people will always have negative effects, even if they are not apparent immediately. | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:11 [pG]RaGe wrote: It's nice that South Korea is willing to help out in the effort but if their people are against it they shouldn't send the troops, regardless of how many people the USA currently has there. It's never good for a government to go against the people. This will also give South Koreans more bitter attitudes towards American since they will think their government is just a drone to the USA. Really feel bad for that South Korean killed, this is starting to get rediculous:\ they are a drone to the american government sad but true | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:49 PheeRed.User wrote: life is important but you just cant do that for one person ![]() Exactly As soon as the terrorists get what they want, what will stop them from kidnapping even more people | ||
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this man died for keeping us safe from this enormous threat terrorists form. umm not i dont really get where everyone gets the idea that terrorists are still capable of a major strike. the war in afghanistan destroyed the whole structure of al-qaeda, all terrorists that still claim to work under alqaedas flag, just do this because one very large and powerful organisation has more effect then a lot very few cells, who have no centralised leadership. hyping alqaeda this much also helps A LOT with recruiting terrorists. but off course, the idea of one very big organized terrorist group, also helps to accomplish the ideas of warmongering neoconservatives. just the thought of bin laden sitting in a cave in afghanistan planning out alqaedas next move is ridiculous. really, terrorists have no where near the capabilities they had before 9/11, you really dont have to be afraid of them, and please, stop thinking the war in iraq is a war against terrorism, cuz iraq is NOT a terrorist state, if you can name a few terrorist strikes iraq did in the past few years? | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:11 [pG]RaGe wrote: It's nice that South Korea is willing to help out in the effort but if their people are against it they shouldn't send the troops, regardless of how many people the USA currently has there. It's never good for a government to go against the people. This will also give South Koreans more bitter attitudes towards American since they will think their government is just a drone to the USA. Really feel bad for that South Korean killed, this is starting to get rediculous:\ many times, the people are stupid and wrong about things. maybe not in this case (nobody knows) but often the people are misguided or uninformed about things | ||
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On June 22 2004 11:05 pfff wrote: yeah, its obvious that if south korea wouldnt have gone into iraq, the terrorists wouldve already conquered the world. this man died for keeping us safe from this enormous threat terrorists form. umm not Well so far the terrorists havn't gotten what they want from just kidnapping people.. The sooner the terrorists get it through their head that countries will not negotiate with them, the sooner they will stop kidnapping people. So say, Korea did pull out becasue of this kidnapping. Well then, now the terrorists know that kidnapping WILL work. So the terrorists keep kiddnapping more, hoping it will work again. Or, other terrorists may try to kidnap korean citizens overseas and make demands to their government. Its not a matter of how much korea can actaully contribute, its the fact that countries should never negotiate with terrorists. As soon as they do, they put their people in jeoperdy But aside from that, I agree with what you say here: On June 22 2004 11:05 pfff wrote: i dont really get where everyone gets the idea that terrorists are still capable of a major strike. the war in afghanistan destroyed the whole structure of al-qaeda, all terrorists that still claim to work under alqaedas flag, just do this because one very large and powerful organisation has more effect then a lot very few cells, who have no centralised leadership. hyping alqaeda this much also helps A LOT with recruiting terrorists. but off course, the idea of one very big organized terrorist group, also helps to accomplish the ideas of warmongering neoconservatives. just the thought of bin laden sitting in a cave in afghanistan planning out alqaedas next move is ridiculous. really, terrorists have no where near the capabilities they had before 9/11, you really dont have to be afraid of them, and please, stop thinking the war in iraq is a war against terrorism, cuz iraq is NOT a terrorist state, if you can name a few terrorist strikes iraq did in the past few years? | ||
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People need to understand that terrorism will get worse no matter what we do - and that we can't ignore it or negotiate with it =\ | ||
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I hate these morons that start talking about Islam, and how it is this and that. Probably Catholics that have never opened a history book.. | ||
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i think freezeternals and millions combined age is 16 or smth | ||
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On June 22 2004 11:25 Countdown wrote: Stupid terrorists.. now everyone is going to be mad at us T_T I hate these morons that start talking about Islam, and how it is this and that. Probably Catholics that have never opened a history book.. Islam, as most religions, has deep good intentions. I went to Syria once and nowhere have i ever found such a humility and hospitality | ||
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On June 22 2004 11:55 Dave307 wrote: meh freeze is real -.- pfff is just retarded! ok, then lets follow freezeeternals advice and just eradicate all muslims, cuz they are the source of all our problems no? pretty nazi thoughts youve got their. | ||
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We might not have any business being there "in the first place" but now that we are there, we have an obligation to stay there. After the hand over of power America will not be allowed to use any missiles or weapons without approval of a higher, Iraqi, authority. They will only be patrolling With Iraqi troops to help them. The 200k+ Iraqi soldiers will probably be able to resume control of Iraq by September | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:51 FreeZEternal wrote: i just want iraq gone...just wipe out everything-_-; You think that will help? It will only esculate problems 100 fold. | ||
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anywayz...do you think there will be more of this beheading? | ||
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its a long long story =] It always was there active. Its just world and our society change, as do terrorism and as does the way you percept things around. The thing we are currently living is just a mediatic terrorism as so many other things around. Let me rephrase ; for instance : Ben laden didn't invent plane hi-jacks. But plane hi-jacks live on TV gets pretty fucking impressive. Especially when you see em crashing in three buildings. I just love the way Americans instead of blaming the gvnt for such security failure actually went straight to it, just like a kid asking for protection. | ||
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On June 22 2004 12:42 Countdown wrote: terrorism has little or nothing to do with religion imo yep, it is always related with some extreme ideology, but that could be an extreme branch of a religion, but also nationalism, or patriotism,... things like that arent the cause of terrorism, they are just a symptom of it. | ||
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On June 22 2004 12:40 (orky)oTTeR wrote: I just love the way Americans instead of blaming the gvnt for such security failure actually went straight to it, just like a kid asking for protection. I don't know anybody that "went straight to the government" or even actually believes their opinion makes a real difference... the government will do what they want to do regardless of whether we blame them or not. I don't really see how there was any option to begin with other than voting, but that was kind of too late by then. | ||
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On June 22 2004 13:30 NerO wrote: i think that if the afghans and terrorists want 2 play hardasses "defending their land and people" and shit we should play rite back u wanna kill random innocent civilians blatantly we should take a fucking crew rite into all these areas we know cells opperate and fucking kill anyone in there. there is one thing for sure if this turns into a fucking blood war they will be completely obliviated. i still dont see how anyone can just try 2 discuss this shit politically with these pussies. maybe once they see that everyone is getting slaughtered all the people that they are doing this for they will stop cus they realize if they keep going then for 1 usa or s.korean or UK or who ever civilian we kill 100 of their terrorists that are in jail then post the mass killing on a site with a big middle finger and a picture of a lil guy wearing an american flag pissing on osama's face. ![]() | ||
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people should be more concerned with thingslike the war going on in the congo (or some other south american country) I forget which one but that just goes to show you how popular it is.... I know over millions of people have been massacred but I can't name the country.... all this is, is a big media hype so a few people get killed blah blah there are people dieing from other wars at a much rapid rate. I say screw iraq and ti im done im gonna ignore everything in the news about it, its all for political gain so screw it Im done rawr. | ||
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also, because of americas budget problems they have trouble keeping their price low, youre oil is like two times cheaper then oil in the rest of the world. also, america has problems with inflation. also, oil use is rising constantly while oil production is nearing its maximum. in china, in the last decade, the demand for oil has risen almost exponentially. really, if you dont have a clue, then dont say anything at all. | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:49 PheeRed.User wrote: life is important but you just cant do that for one person ![]() what if it was a child? | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:55 LostDesire wrote: Exactly As soon as the terrorists get what they want, what will stop them from kidnapping even more people Whot if they want money after war? U would give them money? Its stiupid if they see that terorism work, they will not stop. | ||
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On June 22 2004 13:34 pfff wrote: umm, nero the gas prices have been rising because there is a lot less export from iraqi oil because most pumps were destroyed by saddam during the war. also, because of americas budget problems they have trouble keeping their price low, youre oil is like two times cheaper then oil in the rest of the world. also, america has problems with inflation. also, oil use is rising constantly while oil production is nearing its maximum. in china, in the last decade, the demand for oil has risen almost exponentially. really, if you dont have a clue, then dont say anything at all. Lets get one thing straight, our gas is cheap because our government doesn't tax it 300 percent like elsewhere. And its like 20 cents/gal in Venezuela. Thx. | ||
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![]() Under Saddam there were people getting killed everyday. Now there are lots of people from other countries getting killed too. Sure, the Iraqies are free, but they live in fear of being killed by bombs, friendly fire, and what not. On the topic of the "War on Terror"/War in Iraq. Has this war dulled the threat of terrorism or escalated it? Have there been more civilian deaths due to terrorism after the war? The answer is this war has actually been counter productive, more people have died, and terrorism is still out there - and Iraq wasn't even an Al Qaeda strong-hold, although there are Al Qaeda there now... Also terrorists now have a place in the Middle East to strike at the United States. | ||
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Too but that now when we seriously have to invade the country no one will take Bush's word seriously. Its like crying wolf. What if there is a legitamate threat now? Its going to be a lot more difficult to convince people again even if its more serious than Iraq. | ||
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On June 22 2004 14:45 Chobohobo wrote: You are right 0_0 instead we should have marched into Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and whipe them clean, they are more of a threat than Iraq. or none.. | ||
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would you admit this war was a mistake right from the beginning? | ||
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On June 22 2004 14:40 0_0 wrote: I'm really sorry to hear about this Korean guy getting beheaded ![]() Under Saddam there were people getting killed everyday. Now there are lots of people from other countries getting killed too. Sure, the Iraqies are free, but they live in fear of being killed by bombs, friendly fire, and what not. On the topic of the "War on Terror"/War in Iraq. Has this war dulled the threat of terrorism or escalated it? Have there been more civilian deaths due to terrorism after the war? The answer is this war has actually been counter productive, more people have died, and terrorism is still out there - and Iraq wasn't even an Al Qaeda strong-hold, although there are Al Qaeda there now... Also terrorists now have a place in the Middle East to strike at the United States. Nobady was saing that day after wining the war its gonna be gr8 inIraq. Its hard time now, everybody cnow it is gone be like that, but it is not gonne be that forever, so u cant say yet if that war bring more bad or good. | ||
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On June 22 2004 11:24 HnR)Louder wrote: SK will help the USA because the USA has been helping secure their borders against NK since the korean war --; even though NK could walk right over all our troops, and SK's too if they wanted =( It's always unfortunate when a government takes part in something that is against the will of the majority of it's population, but it happens. People need to understand that terrorism will get worse no matter what we do - and that we can't ignore it or negotiate with it =\ I wonder where you get your information. based on the information *I* have, the south korean army is just as strong as the north korea army, if not stronger. and the US army is going to remove a lot of it's forces in south korea, which is good. | ||
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On June 22 2004 14:59 StoneR wrote: Just one last thing Countdown would you admit this war was a mistake right from the beginning? duh.. | ||
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On June 22 2004 15:06 Chobohobo wrote: Its a right war for a right cause for wrong reasons at a wrong time. this is something I can actually agree with. IF usa suddenly started going after EVERY dicatorship in the world that opressed it's people, regardless of their geopolitical importance and how much money they had, and they used "we need to liberate them and improve their life quality" as a reason in every single occasion, I would be far more inclined to agree with their wars. however, that reasoning has only been used after it was proven that every single other of their reasonings were wrong. and usa only went for the most geopolitically important country as well as the one with the most natural resources. =[ | ||
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On June 22 2004 15:43 NerO wrote: lol ya sounds good drop a nuke on the middle east rename it east texas and let it all take care of itself ^^. shut up plz | ||
GabrielB
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actually all the muslim states are happy with a religious leader (dictator no matter how you put it) really? how did you come up with this bullshit? | ||
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On June 22 2004 15:40 Liquid`Drone wrote: this is something I can actually agree with. IF usa suddenly started going after EVERY dicatorship in the world that opressed it's people, regardless of their geopolitical importance and how much money they had, and they used "we need to liberate them and improve their life quality" as a reason in every single occasion, I would be far more inclined to agree with their wars. however, that reasoning has only been used after it was proven that every single other of their reasonings were wrong. and usa only went for the most geopolitically important country as well as the one with the most natural resources. =[ it also just happens 2 be the country that tryed 2 assassinate our president's dad =0 | ||
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sarcasim u fucking idiot | ||
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The extremists are not going to ever negotiate any sort of treaty or cease fire on any culture they dislike. And since we will remain the target of violence, even though it ails me to say it, we must be violent back. We need grow some balls and do a little of evil of our own (killing) and wipe these guys out, it shouldnt just be America either, but all countries that wil be potential targets for these terrorists. From what i gather they dislike the very idea of our religions and money making societies. Which does not pardon even you spaniards or belgiums in this thread. It just puts you low on their 'hit' list. I feel a great deal of sadness for this Korean man, most likely a person any one of us would have respect for, even before his beheading. | ||
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i thought you were serious~ | ||
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and not only fidel castro mind you.. | ||
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On June 22 2004 15:48 Liquid`Drone wrote: nero, so what. usa has tried to assassinate fidel castro more than 10 times. would this entitle cuba to go to war against usa if they had the capabilities of doing so? and not only fidel castro mind you.. never said it was a reason 2 go 2 war its just another thing that would push bush to want to choose iraq 2 go 2 war with thats all i was saying | ||
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On June 22 2004 15:48 Liquid`Drone wrote: nero, so what. usa has tried to assassinate fidel castro more than 10 times. would this entitle cuba to go to war against usa if they had the capabilities of doing so? and not only fidel castro mind you.. Source? i was under the impression assassinations have been outlawed since the 70's. | ||
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On June 22 2004 10:11 [pG]RaGe wrote: It's nice that South Korea is willing to help out in the effort but if their people are against it they shouldn't send the troops, regardless of how many people the USA currently has there. It's never good for a government to go against the people. This will also give South Koreans more bitter attitudes towards American since they will think their government is just a drone to the USA. Really feel bad for that South Korean killed, this is starting to get rediculous:\ Even the south korean government is not really happy with sending the troops to Iraq. But they are being pressured to so that the US will not pull too many troops out of Korea. It's a sticky situation for them for sure | ||
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I've heard of multiple attempts at killing castro from multiple sources and I've never heard of a good reason to not believe in any of those sources. edit : do a google search for +castro +assassination +cia, gave me 23900 hits, visit the 20 first pages or so if you want to. | ||
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Im for kicking every dictator out... not assassination, though... | ||
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On June 22 2004 15:57 VioLat0R wrote: if the premise for this war had been to get saddam out and setup a democracy, Im pretty sure the international community would have supported it right from the start... so yes, you sort of can just go throwing governments... the error here was: the premise was WMD and they got little international support... Im for kicking every dictator out... not assassination, though... are you 12 years old? do you know many arab countries have and want a religious leader (dictator)? | ||
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did you go there and randomly polled 1000 of them in each country? if you didnt, then shut the fuck up... | ||
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And similar things are done also by european countries.. neocolonialism gogo and therefore you make'em all upset and they start creating terrorist groups | ||
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IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 OKAY? | ||
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and stoner I'm not claiming that usa trying to assassinate castro is a new phenomenon or something most people don't know about, in fact I picked that example because I expected it to be something well known that I wouldn't have to back up through posting tons of links. | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:03 Liquid`Drone wrote: rif IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 OKAY? I did say Iraq aside both times. -_- EDIT: took out the inflamatory cussing =P | ||
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but saying that the international community shouldnt try to get rid of all dictatorships (which it isnt doing, but should) is wrong, is just fucking stupid... | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:04 NerO wrote: well we all here know 2wrongs make a right there for this should be 100% the right thing to do k? accepted sarcasm ;o | ||
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my apologies! : ) | ||
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What im doing online though is trying to put a legitimate perspective on voilence. It takes a certain sense of give or take to realize that violence is unavoidable. | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:19 hk[hanbyul] wrote: like i said one man's terrorist is another one's freedom fighter. exactly | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:21 SW)RIF wrote: Heh, well online your position is more consistant with what i am in real life. Im a big wuss that feels sorry for moths and flies that i have to kill in my store since i serve open grill food and coffee. I also feel sadness everytime i see roadkill. What im doing online though is trying to put a legitimate perspective on voilence. It takes a certain sense of give or take to realize that violence is unavoidable. oh jesus, how can violence be unavoidable? did you try what Jesus said? Did you turn your other chick yet? ^_^ | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:30 VioLat0R wrote: just like 'we' did in brazil... I wasnt there and Im pretty sure you werent either... so? dont you think it would have been better if there was huge international support? I do... do you think irakis want this "support"? again, they want us the fuck out of there. | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:00 StoneR wrote: are you 12 years old? do you know many arab countries have and want a religious leader (dictator)? Why do you put dictator in paretheses, as if its another word for religious leader...? and it doesn't matter what arab countries want, it's about what Iraqi's want. They wanted Saddam gone. We wanted Saddam gone. Why are you complaining? It's our soldiers that had to pay the price, not yours. You left, remember? | ||
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edit: OMG... he didnt!!! | ||
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and Spanish soldiers died in this war so wtf are you talking about? | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:34 VioLat0R wrote: now they do yea... they want the troops out of there... but the great majority of them is thankful for overthrowing the dictatorship... i don't think he cares what they want. it's more about the U.S. going against the U.N. and it being a "war for oil." Even if 100% of the Iraqis supported the war and 100% of AMericans supported the war, some country that isn't even involved in the war will still be complaining about America doing whatever it wants | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:55 Countdown wrote: 61 percent of Iraqi's said Saddam's ouster was worth any hardships during the war SAYS CNN?? | ||
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i don't think he cares what they want. it's more about the U.S. going against the U.N. and it being a "war for oil." Even if 100% of the Iraqis supported the war and 100% of AMericans supported the war, some country that isn't even involved in the war will still be complaining about America doing whatever it wants I could actually agree with him if that was his reasoning... besides the oil part... US cant just go on a war with false premises and without the agreement of the UN... thats what causes more hatred towards america... someone sees this and thinks that all americans are 'arrogant'... | ||
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Says Gallup | ||
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He says Irakis want freedom and democracy, i say they might you didnt say they might... you said they dont... if the war goal was to give iraqis freedom (it wasnt), then how the fuck could you be against that? | ||
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wow i hope that makes sense cus i have no idea where the fuck that came from lolz. | ||
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On June 22 2004 16:59 [pG]RaGe wrote: 99.9% of all government statistics in this operation are made up=[ Thank you | ||
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where we disagree: - you say they live in medieval times and 'might' not want freedom - I say they want your only argument was that 'you know how they feel about soldiers'... well, I think they feel the same way any of us would... one thing is to feel that, another is TO NOT WANT TO BE FREED! THEY DO! PERIOD! hows is that not clear? Im leaving... I dont know why Im arguing with someone who cant understand that PEOPLE LIKE FREEDOM! | ||
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If Winston Churchill listened to popular opinion, he would have never declared war on the Nazis. Where would we be today. | ||
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StoneR
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NewGuyOnCampus
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
I got my bet on Canada. | ||
NerO
United States2071 Posts
On June 22 2004 17:32 NotSorry wrote: Guess our movie plans of Rek going over there and pulling a action star on us is out of the question now. Someone should make a poll "What country will the next victim be from" I got my bet on Canada. lmao | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On June 22 2004 11:24 HnR)Louder wrote: SK will help the USA because the USA has been helping secure their borders against NK since the korean war --; even though NK could walk right over all our troops, and SK's too if they wanted =( It's always unfortunate when a government takes part in something that is against the will of the majority of it's population, but it happens. People need to understand that terrorism will get worse no matter what we do - and that we can't ignore it or negotiate with it =\ In all respect no, I watched a special on this at school and after much analyzation, the united states government deemed that it could destroy the whole nation of North Korea in 6 minutes, if war was declared. Of course this is without the use of nukes otherwise it's not 6 minutes, it's just one nuke. I'm not a communist or anything but I think North Korea is smart for having nukes. Why? Bush is a fucking moron and called North Korea and many other innocent COUNTRIES [ Countries not leaders ] part of the ' Axis of evil ' therefore proves he is hostile. If you were North Korea, wouldn't you want to have nukes? America is taking away nukes from everyone saying that it's unsafe, but think about it, if you're North Korea and America is obviously hostile to you, do you want to give up your nukes? Hell no. Having nukes doesn't mean you will use them, North Korea is just smart to have them. | ||
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GundamVX
United States1025 Posts
On June 22 2004 17:29 IndexFing wrote: The people don't always know whats best for their country. If Winston Churchill listened to popular opinion, he would have never declared war on the Nazis. Where would we be today. Does that one incident say something for all world incidents? Or could it be that each era, each country, each situation demands a different course of action? | ||
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Klogon
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Excalibur_Z
United States12237 Posts
On June 22 2004 18:10 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: In all respect no, I watched a special on this at school and after much analyzation, the united states government deemed that it could destroy the whole nation of North Korea in 6 minutes, if war was declared. Of course this is without the use of nukes otherwise it's not 6 minutes, it's just one nuke. I'm not a communist or anything but I think North Korea is smart for having nukes. Why? Bush is a fucking moron and called North Korea and many other innocent COUNTRIES [ Countries not leaders ] part of the ' Axis of evil ' therefore proves he is hostile. If you were North Korea, wouldn't you want to have nukes? America is taking away nukes from everyone saying that it's unsafe, but think about it, if you're North Korea and America is obviously hostile to you, do you want to give up your nukes? Hell no. Having nukes doesn't mean you will use them, North Korea is just smart to have them. Blah blah blah. "Bush is a fucking moron" YAWN. Man is that getting old. You don't even know why you think he's a moron. He wasn't labelling the countries themselves as evil, he said they were evil REGIMES and ROGUE NATIONS. Obviously he's not talking about the average North Korean Yo-hwan on the street, he's talking about the leadership. And that is a jacked up leadership =( | ||
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Excalibur_Z
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On June 22 2004 17:00 NerO wrote: USA is the big mother fucking bully in the playground everyone is either his friend/bitch or his enemy u have the choice to either suck up to them and join them in the "UN" or clan of buddies that makes all the other little bitches feel important or u can fight a fight u cant win against it and thats wut they are doing and fighting the only way they can fight someone so much more powerful then them thats by popping his mom's tires and stealing his wallot and cutting up posters in his room. this is just another act of the USA showing that the UN has absolutely no control over wut we do and we can do wutever the fuck we want when we want and however we want and when we do ur either in or ur out or ur the enemy. wow i hope that makes sense cus i have no idea where the fuck that came from lolz. lolz wut a coincidence i have no idea where the fuck your brain went lolz The UN is a joke. It was founded by communist spies and has done nothing to speak out against the leadership of rogue nations and oppressive regimes. In fact they put Libya, a country known for its crimes against humanity, on the Human Rights Council. But nobody hears about things like that. People are led to believe by the media that the UN is some godlike organization that is the beginning of a one-world government - little do they know. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12237 Posts
On June 22 2004 18:38 StoneR wrote: Bush is a jacked up leadership Hey I can say random idiotic stuff too! Your mother is a fire hydrant! | ||
hk[hanbyul]
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Excalibur_Z
United States12237 Posts
On June 22 2004 18:42 StoneR wrote: and English being the most influential language in the world... pff The most influential was latin, as it was influential on Portuguese, French, Spanish, Andalusian, Catalonian etc even on english ^_^ Yeah WAS, and now it's a dead language. Live in the NOW! | ||
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Klogon
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On June 22 2004 18:44 hk[hanbyul] wrote: oh my bad sorry dude. who was that for? | ||
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On June 22 2004 18:29 Klogon wrote: Gundam has a point, I mean Saddam didn't listen to popular opinion, did he? :o Popular opinion was whatever Saddam wanted it to be. ![]() | ||
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On June 22 2004 18:42 StoneR wrote: in the U.S. for example they teach Spanish to everyone in School. hmm.. not really | ||
FreeZEternal
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On June 22 2004 18:43 Excalibur_Z wrote: lolz wut a coincidence i have no idea where the fuck your brain went lolz The UN is a joke. It was founded by communist spies and has done nothing to speak out against the leadership of rogue nations and oppressive regimes. In fact they put Libya, a country known for its crimes against humanity, on the Human Rights Council. But nobody hears about things like that. People are led to believe by the media that the UN is some godlike organization that is the beginning of a one-world government - little do they know. AH-HA-HA! Really!? You must be kidding me right? From what planet are you from? Do you take drugs? "The UN is a joke. It was founded by communist spies and has done nothing to speak out against the leadership of rogue nations and oppressive regimes." Actually, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On June 22 2004 11:05 pfff wrote: yeah, its obvious that if south korea wouldnt have gone into iraq, the terrorists wouldve already conquered the world. this man died for keeping us safe from this enormous threat terrorists form. umm not i dont really get where everyone gets the idea that terrorists are still capable of a major strike. the war in afghanistan destroyed the whole structure of al-qaeda, all terrorists that still claim to work under alqaedas flag, just do this because one very large and powerful organisation has more effect then a lot very few cells, who have no centralised leadership. hyping alqaeda this much also helps A LOT with recruiting terrorists. but off course, the idea of one very big organized terrorist group, also helps to accomplish the ideas of warmongering neoconservatives. just the thought of bin laden sitting in a cave in afghanistan planning out alqaedas next move is ridiculous. really, terrorists have no where near the capabilities they had before 9/11, you really dont have to be afraid of them, and please, stop thinking the war in iraq is a war against terrorism, cuz iraq is NOT a terrorist state, if you can name a few terrorist strikes iraq did in the past few years? So you think that if the next time a terrorist kidnaps someone and a government gives in it won't encourage the terrorists to kill more people? Don't get me wrong: We shouldn't be in Iraq, and we shouldn't be dealing with it. But we are, and we should deal with it the right way. | ||
chobopeon
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What do you mean? In any public school you have to learn a foreign language. Spanish is the most popular one, as Spanish are the biggest minority here. And French, Italian, etc etc etc | ||
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On June 23 2004 09:55 suffeli wrote: AH-HA-HA! Really!? You must be kidding me right? From what planet are you from? Do you take drugs? "The UN is a joke. It was founded by communist spies and has done nothing to speak out against the leadership of rogue nations and oppressive regimes." Actually, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.. i don't agree with everything excal says, and I can't even agree with everything in this thread. But if you think the UN is all that it's cracked up to be you're the one on drugs. | ||
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I don't believe the UN is a superhuman organization and I never made such statement. Don't put words in my mouth. | ||
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GundamVX
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Tien
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made by communist spies, give me a break. This was as rediculous as Mccarthism when everyone was labeled a communist, even the American general commanding the South Korean efforts was labeled a communist by McCarthy. No evidence, just totally absurd speculations. I got one for you, George W. Bush is actually one of many family members of the Bin Laden family. He is practically doing everything they want him to do, terrorist recruitings and moral have gone through the roof, so has anti-american sentiment. Destroyed Afghanistan? No problem, we'll set up base in Iraq, an even better location for terrorism. No more terrorist funding? You kidding me? Saudi Arabia is still funding millions of dollars to terrorist organiztions. Who were one of the happiest people in the world because of 9/11?? the Saudi Arabian people!!! Bush flew all of his family members out of America right after 9/11 without even questioning them. He is definately blood related to this Bin Laden family. | ||
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On June 23 2004 10:10 choboPEon wrote: What do you mean? In any public school you have to learn a foreign language. Spanish is the most popular one, as Spanish are the biggest minority here. And French, Italian, etc etc etc no... In my state you don't need to take any foreign language unless you want to go to a university, and even then you don't have to take spanish. so i guess you are both wrong. | ||
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On June 23 2004 10:19 suffeli wrote: Bush is doing a great job afterall, at least, now people in Asia ex. China, North Korea, have a common thing to hate. This anger will surely unite the people! --- Poor man, he died for nothing. ![]() thats right! we are uniters, not dividers | ||
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On June 24 2004 02:16 Klogon wrote: I remember Jay Leno doing his "Jay Walk" on his show where an 19 year old girl who lived in LA couldn't locate Mexico on the world map. -_- Sad... If she doesnt know that, what in the hell does she actually know? to speak and walk ? | ||
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NotSorry
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lol I think they need a new beheading policy tho, like send an ear one day, then an hand, and so on. This way it is nonstop in the media and will offend more people which in the end will have a lot more effect than one threat and a dead man's head a day later. You have to let people see what you will do to someone. | ||
Zerius[TPR]
Canada1633 Posts
He'd bring down the whole operation in less than a day. | ||
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Zerius[TPR]
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On June 24 2004 02:44 NotSorry wrote: Me and klogon were hoping Rekrul would take a small detour and stop by and pull a action hero move on the whole middle east before getting to korea. Rekrul's micro wouldnt save him when facing the barrel of a gun. | ||
NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On June 24 2004 01:31 baal wrote: The second city with more mexicans in the WORLD is L.A. california!, the first is Mexico city ofcourse. Seems like quite a trick there. Name a piece of shit waste of land New Mexico and all the mexicans that just left mexico go right to it... | ||
NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On June 24 2004 02:45 Zerius wrote: Rekrul's micro wouldnt save him when facing the barrel of a gun. But his arbitors would ^ ^ Can't shot what you don't see. | ||
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