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On August 04 2010 20:04 pachi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 18:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The youngest member is 16. Seeing as teenage girls of that age have very developed sexual feelings and desires I don't see how this is in the least bit upsetting. 16 is the age of consent in a large number of western nations.
Did you not have sexual feelings when you were that age? When you were 17-18 which the majority of the members of this group are? In fact the majority of this groups members, according to the wiki, are between 17-22. It's hilarious that anyone would be offended at that age range singing something suggestive.
I had strong sexual urges when I was quite a bit younger than 16. Should we pretend that people only start thinking about sex when they turn 18 because that's the way it is in the United States? Absurd. The song is pretty bad though. I wanted to drive and drink when I was still in grade school. Doesn't mean they should let me.
When a 17 year old girl consenting to sex gets some innocent people killed you may just have a point. Until then though try to realize that society is simply evolving into this route. If you're a virgin by the age of 17 you're in the minority, that's just the way it is.
Has it really come to the point where we equate sex at 16 to drunk driving or was that just your attempt at trying to exaggerate a situation? 17-22 year old singing things like this is hardly offensive. Maybe if the average age was 14 or something you'd have better ground to stand on.
Also LOL at that song. "My school uniforms getting in the way" dear lord. Though this song is a bit more catchy than girls generation...and yea
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cultural relativity ftw!! or loss?
I just don't like it how they play innocent, i highly doubt these girls really are how they try to portray themselves
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On August 04 2010 20:08 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 20:04 pachi wrote:On August 04 2010 18:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The youngest member is 16. Seeing as teenage girls of that age have very developed sexual feelings and desires I don't see how this is in the least bit upsetting. 16 is the age of consent in a large number of western nations.
Did you not have sexual feelings when you were that age? When you were 17-18 which the majority of the members of this group are? In fact the majority of this groups members, according to the wiki, are between 17-22. It's hilarious that anyone would be offended at that age range singing something suggestive.
I had strong sexual urges when I was quite a bit younger than 16. Should we pretend that people only start thinking about sex when they turn 18 because that's the way it is in the United States? Absurd. The song is pretty bad though. I wanted to drive and drink when I was still in grade school. Doesn't mean they should let me. When a 17 year old girl consenting to sex gets some innocent people killed you may just have a point. Until then though try to realize that society is simply evolving into this route. If you're a virgin by the age of 17 you're in the minority, that's just the way it is. Has it really come to the point where we equate sex at 16 to drunk driving or was that just your attempt at trying to exaggerate a situation? 17-22 year old singing things like this is hardly offensive. Maybe if the average age was 14 or something you'd have better ground to stand on. Also LOL at that song. "My school uniforms getting in the way" dear lord. Though this song is a bit more catchy than girls generation...and yea
oh man.. i just imagined a situation where you would hear someone singing these lyrics in public(english of course) or imagine the looks i'd get if i sang these lyrics LOL
"na na na na na i don't know this part, my school uniforms getting in the way, na na na..."
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Just watched the MV, LOLLLLLLL! Who can seriously write lyrics like that...
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Wow. Aside from the weird lyrics, the video is just kind of creepy because the girls both look and sound bored/miserable.
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Netherlands19135 Posts
lol @ the 48 members and the lyrics but meh, I can't see any problem with this actually. Pretty tame and if it was one of my kids I'd might reconsider but that would probably just be naive.
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I have to say I was expecting some knd of terrible twised translation based off of a japanese --> english translator misinterpreting a lot of words. The whole thing is spot on haha, and I have to say while the lyrics are SUPER suggestive, yeah super, i just went there, the tune is prettty catchy.
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On August 04 2010 19:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Also for the sake of it I should point out that exactly 12/48 members are under 18, the youngest being 15 and that's only 2 or 3 of the members. I certainly had much dirtier thoughts at that age. I still fail to see what is wrong with adolescents expressing their sexuality.
Why are people so afraid of sex?
I'm not afraid of sex. It simply bothers me that children are essentially being exploited in such a manner more or less for the pleasure of people that could be their fathers. Of course sexuality will always be a part of adolescence, but to me, there's a difference between accepting or even embracing that fact and blatantly singing:
"My school uniform's getting in the way"
"Take off my uniform"
"You can do whatever you like"
"I'll cling to you and take you in"
"I want to experience adult pleasure"
"If somebody looks I don't care."
"That's how it is for high school girls"
Age of consent aside, the fact that young girls are singing this and the types of messages this and other AKB48 songs could potentially send just seems wrong to me. I'm certainly no prude and of course I've had sexual experiences as an adolescent, but as an adult now looking back on those experiences and the world as its changed, I really don't feel it's something that we should be openly encouraging or glorifying. Sure, you can make the argument that similar themes present themselves in various other forms of media, but usually it's nowhere near as obvious as this.
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They just want to be loved more freely, and their school uniform is getting in the way. no problem here.
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On August 04 2010 11:10 LegendaryZ wrote:
I know some of them are 18+, but seriously.... WTF?
It is a little... Risqué. However, not all countries follow the US laws in regards to age of consent at 18. Even in Canada, it is 16. Not sure what Japan's law is nor do I know much about their culture in relation to this topic : \
I don't think this would be at all adopted by North American culture because parents tend to be fairly protective of what their children are exposed to (for the most part).
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On August 04 2010 22:33 QueueQueue wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 11:10 LegendaryZ wrote:
I know some of them are 18+, but seriously.... WTF?
It is a little... Risqué. However, not all countries follow the US laws in regards to age of consent at 18. Even in Canada, it is 16. Not sure what Japan's law is nor do I know much about their culture in relation to this topic : \ I don't think this would be at all adopted by North American culture because parents tend to be fairly protective of what their children are exposed to (for the most part).
What?
A vast majority of the US has an age of consent law at 16, some 17, only 6 or so states at 18. Hell we have 3 states with a 15 age of consent and 2 states with a 14 age of consent.
Wouldn't be adopted it? Two words, JUSTIN BEIBER. Kid has no clue what he's singing about but he's just about the most popular pop icon out in the US right now.
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I bet he knows exactly what he's singing about
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On August 04 2010 22:38 Jayme wrote:
What?
A vast majority of the US has an age of consent law at 16, some 17, only 6 or so states at 18. Hell we have 3 states with a 15 age of consent and 2 states with a 14 age of consent.
My mistake. Seems I was misinformed 
On August 04 2010 22:38 Jayme wrote:
Wouldn't be adopted it? Two words, JUSTIN BEIBER. Kid has no clue what he's singing about but he's just about the most popular pop icon out in the US right now.
I haven't listened to a full Justin Beiber song at any point, however I somehow doubt his lyrics are as 'explicit' (relatively speaking) as the song in the OP. Could be wrong; but I don't really want to take the time sifting through Justin Beiber lyrics to confirm that.
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On August 04 2010 21:29 LegendaryZ wrote:
Sure, you can make the argument that similar themes present themselves in various other forms of media, but usually it's nowhere near as obvious as this.
And therefor potentialy even more harmfull.
There is a reason pedophiles open with "hey little girl, do you like candy?" instead of "hey little girl, do you want to get your tiny ass ripped up in some basement somewhere?"
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On August 04 2010 21:29 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 19:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Also for the sake of it I should point out that exactly 12/48 members are under 18, the youngest being 15 and that's only 2 or 3 of the members. I certainly had much dirtier thoughts at that age. I still fail to see what is wrong with adolescents expressing their sexuality.
Why are people so afraid of sex? I'm not afraid of sex. It simply bothers me that children are essentially being exploited in such a manner more or less for the pleasure of people that could be their fathers. Of course sexuality will always be a part of adolescence, but to me, there's a difference between accepting or even embracing that fact and blatantly singing.....
I don't think they are being exploited. I think they're the ones doing the exploiting because they understand they will make bank being a little slutty. Miley Cyrus is being slutty simply because it sells, and horny teenage boys jack it endlessly to her when she comes on stage while Chris Hemsworth or w/e his name is actually gets to stick it in her vajayjay.
There is nothing wrong with what they are singing. God, people are such prudes these days it's shocking how people get offended by the most ridiculous things.
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Sanya12364 Posts
I think that you'll find such sex crazed lyrics in the US culture too. The difference is that it's not going to the forefront of culture or coming close at least for girls that young.
The band name is coming from Akihabara! There is no chance that it won't be weird/sex crazed. That place is the nexus of all Japanese wierdness.
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I didn't think it was that bad. I don't understand how they split all the major cash they must make.
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thought the thread was about a new AK47 or something... but this :<
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AKB48
AKB <- Akihabara
48 <- 48 members
The Akihabara part is basically enough to say why the song would be written the way it is. Akihabara is filled with ero-manga, ero-doujin, anything H, DVDs, adult material, etc. Therefore, it fits and is perfectly relevant.
(Akihabara is a part of Tokyo)
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On August 04 2010 23:36 SolHeiM wrote:
I don't think they are being exploited. I think they're the ones doing the exploiting because they understand they will make bank being a little slutty. Miley Cyrus is being slutty simply because it sells, and horny teenage boys jack it endlessly to her when she comes on stage while Chris Hemsworth or w/e his name is actually gets to stick it in her vajayjay.
There is nothing wrong with what they are singing. God, people are such prudes these days it's shocking how people get offended by the most ridiculous things.
Just because they happen to be making money doesn't mean that they're not being exploited. And what Miley Cyrus does or sings, although there are certainly undeniable sexual themes present, comes nothing close to this in terms of suggestiveness. I don't think anyone is particularly offended by it, but rather somewhat troubled. Also, the fact that someone is not a proponent of the sexualization of adolescents in media doesn't make him/her a prude. Please go look up what "prude" actually means... -_-
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