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MadVillain
United States402 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:07 MangoTango wrote: I'm currently watching Contact. Wow. This movie is awesome. What a coincidence with this post. Sorry I have to rain on your parade, but Contact was a bad movie, just badddd. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
really? | ||
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Ossian
Sweden88 Posts
On July 16 2010 01:19 ProjectVirtue wrote: Isn't that speculation based on the modern glorified perception of aliens? Theres no substantial evidence that would instigate that extraterrestial life are all super fancy etc. They could just as well use visual receptors in their version of a cerebral cortex to translate information. And why would the 'technology' to travel to earth affect their visual reception. Consider us traveling to mars, or even jupiter a hundred or 2 hundred years down the roar. Our technology advanced SO much, yet we still rely on our eyes. or even in the past 17 years when the internet first came out and we still had windows 3.1, then bam. look how much our technlogy has increased. compared to speculations at the time. But we still rely on translation of the visible spectra in our occipital lobe. first of all you can't really compare the rift between stone-age tech and modern tech with the rift between modern tech and the ability to travel faster than light. the ability to travel to mars or jupiter is just ridiculous in this context. we KNOW there's no advanced civilization for many lightyears in any direction also we already use infra-red in our modern world why wouldn't they. and if we were to scout out another planet for civilization we would sure as hell send a robot that probably registers a wide range of wavelengths, think of a super advanced mars rover... it all comes down to the intention, when we spy on other human nations for example we don't use a huge spotlight array; so if it were indeed an alien ship we can definetly rule spying out. what is left is either they are trying to make contact or they are doing it as a joke if they were trying to make contact they could just as easily just land and introduce themselves.. and if they were just doing it for shits and giggles why is it such a localized event? | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
THIS is the UFO that appeared in Hangzhou a few days ago.... http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg5OTEzNDU2.html | ||
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Ossian
Sweden88 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:25 iloahz wrote: WTF, that picture is completely different from the one I've been seeing in Chinese websites... THIS is the UFO that appeared in Hangzhou a few days ago.... http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg5OTEzNDU2.html haha so the whole thread was fake as I thought lol | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
Remember this? ![[image loading]](http://topentertainmentblog.com/wp-content/uploads/spiral-norway-blue-december-2009-nuclear-missile-ufo-russia-2.jpg) I have never seen a missile look like that... | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:24 Ossian wrote: first of all you can't really compare the rift between stone-age tech and modern tech with the rift between modern tech and the ability to travel faster than light. the ability to travel to mars or jupiter is just ridiculous in this context. we KNOW there's no advanced civilization for many lightyears in any direction No we don't. We(you and I) don't even know for certain what is on our moon. Or under our oceans. How can you make such a claim. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:35 MrMotionPicture wrote: No way could the Chinese make that. Remember this? I have never seen a missile look like that... how many missles have you seen? | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:40 Empyrean wrote: Probabilistically, if other alien cultures exist, we'd expect a greater number of signals to occur from a star-rich area of space than a relative void. Just ask yourself: if you had to look for alien life somewhere, would you look on the outskirts of the galaxy or near the dense core? Of course it's possible that only civilizations from relatively empty areas of space send broadcast messages, but it's much more probable that given other cultures exist, they will be found in the higher density regions. For all we know they have been looking for the past 10 million years and could have searched the entire galaxy already. They may also have some complex life detecting equipment that alerts them where there may be a possibility of new life, and for all we know they may have found a ton of it near the core of our galaxy. If there was a new alien civilization at the outskirts of the galaxy, and they've mastered interstellar travel, why wouldn't they? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On July 15 2010 13:37 travis wrote: kinda looks like something being projected if that's light being put out, light would be expanding from the source, not condensing. but radar picked stuff up at 9pm | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:45 Hynda wrote: I am a man of sience, atm the only thing that is proven is that a spaceship can't go faster than the speed of light, it's against what the laws of physics describe atm. Saying that "woo we can go to mars" doesn't really work, because well it will take 18 months. just to go to mars, having that in comparison to space travel that could reach aliens we would need those 3 billion years just to get there if we started now. But lets say some aliens manages to get here, how come they are always the same size as us? The chances of that happening is so slim it'd be more likley for us to start a zombie apocalypse. Whos to say we wont have some sort of technology in 50 years that would let us travel to There is a system in development right now that would use lasers to push vehicles from the earth to mars in under a month I believe, so that would be a huge leap in technology in a very short time (I'll try to find it and edit in the link). So yeah it works because its one hell of a jumping off point into space exploration outside of our solar system. And you almost stated my point exactly, we may need those 3 billion years to develop technology that would allow us to easily visit other alien civilizations, and I was saying that there could ALREADY be civilizations billions and billions of years old with that tech. The point was if we could do what we've done as humans in such a relatively short amount of time, imagine what a civilization that came to be when the universe was only 2 billion years old is capable of doing now. | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:37 travis wrote: A theory I haven't heard mentioned is that UFO's may not necessarily be controlled by living organisms, but rather by a strong AI developed by living organisms. There would be no time limitations imposed upon such systems. No we don't. We(you and I) don't even know for certain what is on our moon. Or under our oceans. How can you make such a claim. A very popular theory is that the first intelligent life we encounter actually will be inorganic AI that learned how to live on almost indefinitely. So yeah, I guess floating in space towards your target for 400,000 years wouldn't really hurt them much. Guess it's time for me to go digging for some sources. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On July 15 2010 13:46 travis wrote: (I've heard this one argued both sides but haven't been completely convinced by the arguments of how this could be illusion) (this one is especially good... I don't know who could possibly argue that the UFO doesn't quickly change direction and that something shoots at it and misses.. unless that's not what is in the video at all. but then wtf is?) First video was the biggest waste of time wtf? the line is NASAs tether thing and the objects are just space debris floating around every which way. Nothing out of the ordinary. The second video I dunno, it does look strange but could the quick change in direction be the result of gravity shift or electromagnetic field? Does the US always go around shooting missiles at random shit? That doesn't sound realistic at all. What if it was Russian or Chinese, that would cause some problems. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6639 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:54 CharlieMurphy wrote: The second video I dunno, it does look strange but could the quick change in direction be the result of gravity shift or electromagnetic field? Does the US always go around shooting missiles at random shit? That doesn't sound realistic at all. What if it was Russian or Chinese, that would cause some problems. This is a video of a directional nozzle being fired on a 3rd rocket stage or a decoupling satellite just out of view to the left; the video image has been cropped to hide it. The flash is the nozzles firing, the "ufo" changing direction is a piece of debris being hit by the nozzle exhaust, and the "missile" is yet another piece of debris caught in the exhaust off-screen to the left. no aliens here, sorry. There you go. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:20 Destro wrote: so the nearest star capable of having planets that could support life is 40 light years away. Even if they went the speed of light... (theoretically impossible) .... they took a 40 year journey to flash a big flashlight on a chinese airport? really? Not sayin the video looks real or that aliens are real, but this argument I hear all the time and it is bad. Who knows what the fuck they are doing when they are floating around and/or flashing lights. Are they studying and observing us? Is it just a robotic probe? Is the light actually some kind of power related thing? Like seriously, if you assume they have the speed of light tech- then why assume that it's 'just a big flash light'? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:54 CharlieMurphy wrote: First video was the biggest waste of time wtf? the line is NASAs tether thing and the objects are just space debris floating around every which way. Nothing out of the ordinary. guess you don't notice that the "debris" appears to go behind the tether(which if it did, would mean that the "debris" is multiple kilomoters across). not very sharp there charlie now, the explanation of it just being translucent dust illuminated by the sun and very near to the camera is reasonable, and I had heard that before. your explanation sucks though and doesn't explain anything. jello: I'd have to do some research into that. it's just a random youtube comment. lots of people attempt to post explanations that doesn't mean it's correct. you can't just hear something that sounds possible and go "there you go case closed", that's stupid. | ||
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Go0g3n
Russian Federation410 Posts
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