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viciousluscious
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom3 Posts
July 15 2010 15:13 GMT
#101
thats facinatibg. reminds me of windstcher state crisis
101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
July 15 2010 15:17 GMT
#102
why the hell would it fly over a densely populated area if it is military? ..
People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
July 15 2010 15:23 GMT
#103
Looks like some kind of test for whatever the craft is, with all those lights id guess its some kind of survailence craft? Or maybe they gauging the reaction of the people? Who know's...
I wrote a song once.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
July 15 2010 15:28 GMT
#104
If this is military, I can't imagine they intentionally allowed people to see it. Which makes me wonder, what went wrong? Was it able to cloak and the cloak failed? Did it go off course? This is all assuming it was even a military thing under Chinese control.


Are there any videos or accounts of what happened to it? Did it just vanish? Fly away?
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 15:33:30
July 15 2010 15:28 GMT
#105
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~200,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 200,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16981 Posts
July 15 2010 15:34 GMT
#106
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?


There is no known physical means for anything the size of a spaceship of the magnitude seen in the OP to travel faster than the speed of light.

Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood?
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
July 15 2010 15:37 GMT
#107
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?

Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood?


maybe we are the only alien race to send out radio signals/space ships etc
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 15:40:19
July 15 2010 15:37 GMT
#108
Lol it looks like 4 guys in a canoe! With some uber lights!

either that or its the creators of man kind checking us out before 2012, maybe they are who told the mayans about the end of days. :"(
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The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 15:45:24
July 15 2010 15:39 GMT
#109
If it were aliens, why would they just come and leave so quickly?

"Well, good job, Han. We escaped the Death Star and traveled billions of light years to this solar system. This is a great road trip. Let's just hover here with our flashy lights for a few hours and then go away..."

EDIT: Why is it that every time there's some UFO sighting the UFO never actually does anything? It never touches ground. It never makes contact with any physical objects. It doesn't even send out probes or decloak the Protoss fleet or makes sounds. Nope. It always floats. Just a mass of floating metal like Sputnik.

+ Show Spoiler +
And Sputnik was man made.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16981 Posts
July 15 2010 15:40 GMT
#110
On July 16 2010 00:37 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?

Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood?


maybe we are the only alien race to send out radio signals/space ships etc


Probabilistically, if other alien cultures exist, we'd expect a greater number of signals to occur from a star-rich area of space than a relative void.

Just ask yourself: if you had to look for alien life somewhere, would you look on the outskirts of the galaxy or near the dense core? Of course it's possible that only civilizations from relatively empty areas of space send broadcast messages, but it's much more probable that given other cultures exist, they will be found in the higher density regions.
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 15:42:08
July 15 2010 15:41 GMT
#111
On July 16 2010 00:40 Empyrean wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On July 16 2010 00:37 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?

Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood?


maybe we are the only alien race to send out radio signals/space ships etc


Probabilistically, if other alien cultures exist, we'd expect a greater number of signals to occur from a star-rich area of space than a relative void.

Just ask yourself: if you had to look for alien life somewhere, would you look on the outskirts of the galaxy or near the dense core? Of course it's possible that only civilizations from relatively empty areas of space send broadcast messages, but it's much more probable that given other cultures exist, they will be found in the higher density regions.


maybe there are circumstances that make it implausible or unlikely for intelligent life to develop in the more star dense areas such as constant bombardment of asteroids, planetary collisions, supernovas, or something
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
July 15 2010 15:41 GMT
#112
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?


There is no known physical means for anything the size of a spaceship of the magnitude seen in the OP to travel faster than the speed of light.

Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood?


Who are we to say they haven't already? I feel like perhaps you aren't grasping just how long a billion years is. It could be that they are simply continuing to work their way around the galaxy and happened to finally come here.

As for there being no known physical means for something like this...Just think 2000 years ago. Now think of the LHC. The LHC was beyond impossible to people back then.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
July 15 2010 15:41 GMT
#113
oh anyone wondering what that cloud of smoke is around the ship its the sound barrier broken. it just creates win visible cus its soo fast cutting thru air that u can see the air lol. pretty cool i know!
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16981 Posts
July 15 2010 15:45 GMT
#114
On July 16 2010 00:41 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?


There is no known physical means for anything the size of a spaceship of the magnitude seen in the OP to travel faster than the speed of light.

Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood?


Who are we to say they haven't already? I feel like perhaps you aren't grasping just how long a billion years is. It could be that they are simply continuing to work their way around the galaxy and happened to finally come here.

As for there being no known physical means for something like this...Just think 2000 years ago. Now think of the LHC. The LHC was beyond impossible to people back then.


Even with regard to a civilization that has managed to survive for a billion years, you have to weigh the improbability of them happening upon us in our few decades of extra-terrestrial travel. We made it to the moon fewer than fifty years ago. If aliens even visited the earth, it was probably during the other 4+ billion years of its existence. Our radio signals haven't even made it past 100 light years yet.

I'm inclined to agree with you on your second point, but still, our current knowledge of physics doesn't allow for faster than light travel of spaceship sized objects.
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 15 2010 15:45 GMT
#115
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 15 2010 23:49 Tazza wrote:
Hmmm, maybe there are aliens and they want to make contact with Chinese. I guess aliens think Chinese are great since they had a long history. Or it could be fake
The time it would take for any alien craft to get here would be so long that the history of china wouldn't even seem like a Planck time unit (5.391×10^−44 seconds), infact the entierity of earths history and life span would be considered a fart in the wind.


Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)?


Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~200,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 200,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years?
I am a man of sience, atm the only thing that is proven is that a spaceship can't go faster than the speed of light, it's against what the laws of physics describe atm. Saying that "woo we can go to mars" doesn't really work, because well it will take 18 months. just to go to mars, having that in comparison to space travel that could reach aliens we would need those 3 billion years just to get there if we started now.

But lets say some aliens manages to get here, how come they are always the same size as us? The chances of that happening is so slim it'd be more likley for us to start a zombie apocalypse.
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
July 15 2010 15:52 GMT
#116
Well our current laws of physics are only the tip of the iceberg. We don't know shit about the Universe and there are way too many questions that cannot be answered in our lifetime, all physical cosmologists knows this, and that's just the way it is.
Ossian
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 15:54:31
July 15 2010 15:53 GMT
#117
in some of the pictures it's longer in relation to the width and in one of the pictures it's actually not even straight but it has a curve to it

also light doesn't look like that in pictures you can't have evenly lumenous beams of light that are visible that far from the source unless it's been made to look that way on purpouse (with reflective particles in the air etc) and even if there were tons of spotlights on that thing it would either have to have been REALLY big and REALLY far up to make spotlights of that caliber appear nonexistant by comparison, but seeing as there are clouds in some of the pictures clearly that isn't the case

fake
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 16:58:07
July 15 2010 15:54 GMT
#118
Anyone who argues about the limits of technology that is clearly way beyond ours is an idiot. How the hell would you know.

(not to be rude.. but I mean fucking come on...)

durr they couldn't get here quickly because we can't get there quickly. clearly if we can't do something yet it's impossible anyone else would know how to do it.

and hynda: who says they are the same size as us? some of the ufo's seen have been huge. and some have been quite small.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16981 Posts
July 15 2010 15:56 GMT
#119
On July 16 2010 00:54 travis wrote:
Anyone who argues about the limits of technology that is clearly way beyond ours is an idiot. How the hell would you know.


I'm actually arguing from our perspective. From our current understanding of physics, ftl travel is impossible. To argue that it's possible given much more advanced technology is a dangerous argument to make, because it opens the doors for literally anything to be possible, as long as it's sufficiently advanced technologically.
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Ossian
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden88 Posts
July 15 2010 16:00 GMT
#120
On July 16 2010 00:54 travis wrote:
Anyone who argues about the limits of technology that is clearly way beyond ours is an idiot. How the hell would you know.

(not to be rude.. but I mean fucking come on...)

durr they couldn't get here quickly because we can get there quickly. clearly if we can't do something yet it's impossible anyone else would know how to do it.

they would have invisibility long before they had FTL travel (I would say FTL is impossible but w/e) so there's no reasonable argument for them being there; either they don't want to be found and they use invisibility -> we can't see them
or they do want to be seen in which case they could just land at the nearest public place and introduce themselves
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