EPTSome freak UFO footage. - Page 6
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viciousluscious
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101TFP
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AdamBanks
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Mohdoo
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Are there any videos or accounts of what happened to it? Did it just vanish? Fly away? | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:07 Go0g3n wrote: Wouldn't the time actually depend on the distance to their location and traveling speed (or means)? Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~200,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 200,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years? | ||
Empyrean
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On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote: Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~100,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 100,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years? There is no known physical means for anything the size of a spaceship of the magnitude seen in the OP to travel faster than the speed of light. Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood? | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote: Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood? maybe we are the only alien race to send out radio signals/space ships etc | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
either that or its the creators of man kind checking us out before 2012, maybe they are who told the mayans about the end of days. :"( | ||
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The_Pacifist
United States540 Posts
"Well, good job, Han. We escaped the Death Star and traveled billions of light years to this solar system. This is a great road trip. Let's just hover here with our flashy lights for a few hours and then go away..." EDIT: Why is it that every time there's some UFO sighting the UFO never actually does anything? It never touches ground. It never makes contact with any physical objects. It doesn't even send out probes or decloak the Protoss fleet or makes sounds. Nope. It always floats. Just a mass of floating metal like Sputnik. + Show Spoiler + And Sputnik was man made. | ||
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Empyrean
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On July 16 2010 00:37 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote: maybe we are the only alien race to send out radio signals/space ships etc Probabilistically, if other alien cultures exist, we'd expect a greater number of signals to occur from a star-rich area of space than a relative void. Just ask yourself: if you had to look for alien life somewhere, would you look on the outskirts of the galaxy or near the dense core? Of course it's possible that only civilizations from relatively empty areas of space send broadcast messages, but it's much more probable that given other cultures exist, they will be found in the higher density regions. | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:40 Empyrean wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On July 16 2010 00:37 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote: maybe we are the only alien race to send out radio signals/space ships etc Probabilistically, if other alien cultures exist, we'd expect a greater number of signals to occur from a star-rich area of space than a relative void. Just ask yourself: if you had to look for alien life somewhere, would you look on the outskirts of the galaxy or near the dense core? Of course it's possible that only civilizations from relatively empty areas of space send broadcast messages, but it's much more probable that given other cultures exist, they will be found in the higher density regions. maybe there are circumstances that make it implausible or unlikely for intelligent life to develop in the more star dense areas such as constant bombardment of asteroids, planetary collisions, supernovas, or something | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:34 Empyrean wrote: There is no known physical means for anything the size of a spaceship of the magnitude seen in the OP to travel faster than the speed of light. Even assuming there were a way, for any alien civilization looking to make contact with others, why would they try on an outer arm of a galaxy when they could go much closer to the galaxy's center where star densities are much denser than they are in our local neighborhood? Who are we to say they haven't already? I feel like perhaps you aren't grasping just how long a billion years is. It could be that they are simply continuing to work their way around the galaxy and happened to finally come here. As for there being no known physical means for something like this...Just think 2000 years ago. Now think of the LHC. The LHC was beyond impossible to people back then. | ||
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wishbones
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Empyrean
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On July 16 2010 00:41 Mohdoo wrote: Who are we to say they haven't already? I feel like perhaps you aren't grasping just how long a billion years is. It could be that they are simply continuing to work their way around the galaxy and happened to finally come here. As for there being no known physical means for something like this...Just think 2000 years ago. Now think of the LHC. The LHC was beyond impossible to people back then. Even with regard to a civilization that has managed to survive for a billion years, you have to weigh the improbability of them happening upon us in our few decades of extra-terrestrial travel. We made it to the moon fewer than fifty years ago. If aliens even visited the earth, it was probably during the other 4+ billion years of its existence. Our radio signals haven't even made it past 100 light years yet. I'm inclined to agree with you on your second point, but still, our current knowledge of physics doesn't allow for faster than light travel of spaceship sized objects. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On July 16 2010 00:28 Helios.Star wrote: I am a man of sience, atm the only thing that is proven is that a spaceship can't go faster than the speed of light, it's against what the laws of physics describe atm. Saying that "woo we can go to mars" doesn't really work, because well it will take 18 months. just to go to mars, having that in comparison to space travel that could reach aliens we would need those 3 billion years just to get there if we started now. Yeah, but then were starting to get into lightspeed travel or wormhole theories, which would both get the "aliens" here very quickly for the distance. But seeing as how the universe is ~10 billion years old, our solar system is ~4billion years old, and modern man has only been around for ~200,000 years, I think its very possible a civilization thats billions and billions of years old would take the time to check in on the relatively primitive planets/cultures for study. And think of it like this, if modern humans have only had 200,000 years to develop technology, and we have already traveled in space, landed on the moon, and are already planning and building the machinery necessary for a trip to mars and asteroids, what do you think we could do if we were around for another 3 billion years? But lets say some aliens manages to get here, how come they are always the same size as us? The chances of that happening is so slim it'd be more likley for us to start a zombie apocalypse. | ||
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jstar
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Ossian
Sweden88 Posts
also light doesn't look like that in pictures you can't have evenly lumenous beams of light that are visible that far from the source unless it's been made to look that way on purpouse (with reflective particles in the air etc) and even if there were tons of spotlights on that thing it would either have to have been REALLY big and REALLY far up to make spotlights of that caliber appear nonexistant by comparison, but seeing as there are clouds in some of the pictures clearly that isn't the case fake | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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(not to be rude.. but I mean fucking come on...) durr they couldn't get here quickly because we can't get there quickly. clearly if we can't do something yet it's impossible anyone else would know how to do it. and hynda: who says they are the same size as us? some of the ufo's seen have been huge. and some have been quite small. | ||
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Empyrean
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On July 16 2010 00:54 travis wrote: Anyone who argues about the limits of technology that is clearly way beyond ours is an idiot. How the hell would you know. I'm actually arguing from our perspective. From our current understanding of physics, ftl travel is impossible. To argue that it's possible given much more advanced technology is a dangerous argument to make, because it opens the doors for literally anything to be possible, as long as it's sufficiently advanced technologically. | ||
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Ossian
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On July 16 2010 00:54 travis wrote: Anyone who argues about the limits of technology that is clearly way beyond ours is an idiot. How the hell would you know. (not to be rude.. but I mean fucking come on...) durr they couldn't get here quickly because we can get there quickly. clearly if we can't do something yet it's impossible anyone else would know how to do it. they would have invisibility long before they had FTL travel (I would say FTL is impossible but w/e) so there's no reasonable argument for them being there; either they don't want to be found and they use invisibility -> we can't see them or they do want to be seen in which case they could just land at the nearest public place and introduce themselves | ||
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